1.d4(0:00)c5(0:00) 2.e4(0:07)cxd4(0:09) 3.Nf3(0:03)e5(1:44) 4.c3(0:08)Nc6(0:08) 5.Bc4(0:39)Nf6(2:42) 6.Ng5(4:42)d5(0:34) 7.exd5(0:15)Na5(2:19) 8.Bb5+(2:23)Bd7(0:10) 9.Bxd7+(1:50)Qxd7(0:34) 10.cxd4(1:00)Bb4+(8:08) 11.Bd2(1:50)Bxd2+(0:07) 12.Qxd2(1:15)Qxd5(0:22) 13.O-O(1:28)O-O(3:43) 14.dxe5(1:41)Qxe5(0:18)
trebejo(2065) whispers: The knights on the 5th are having a contest
15.Re1(1:50)
trebejo(2065) whispers: 15.Re1 Qf5 and Black has funky pressure trebejo(2065) whispers: f2, g5, b2 and of course the pesky Ra/fd8 RavenKB(1909) whispers: i like it
15...Qd5(2:02)
trebejo(2065) whispers: oh trebejo(2065) whispers: 16.Qxd5 Nxd5 17.Re5 Rfe8 :) RavenKB(1909) whispers: Qxd5 Nxd5 Rd1 Re8 Na3 RavenKB(1909) whispers: or Qxd5 Nxd5 Ne4
16.Qf4(3:44)
trebejo(2065) whispers: 16.... Nh5 17.Qe5 Rae8 18.Qxe8 Rxe8 19.Rxe8# :D RavenKB(1909) whispers: lol mcstorytaller(1772) whispers: RavenKB, would You play me? trebejo(2065) whispers: don't do it Raven RavenKB(1909) whispers: Nc6 Nc3 Qd3 Rad1 Rfe8 trebejo(2065) whispers: it's a trap RavenKB(1909) whispers: sure ill play you RavenKB(1909) whispers: lol mcstorytaller(1772) whispers: :) trebejo(2065) whispers: he's going to try to beat you RavenKB(1909) whispers: oh shit mcstorytaller(1772) whispers: lol RavenKB(1909) whispers: match me
16...Nc6(5:19)
trebejo(2065) whispers: ok so the knight on g5 won that contest trebejo(2065) whispers: 17.Nc3 starts to look drawish, unless somebody blunders trebejo(2065) whispers: In other words, not that drawish :D :D :D
17.Nc3(2:09)Qa5(4:22) 18.Rad1(2:49)h6(3:40)
trebejo(2065) whispers: It is hard to imagine all four rooks staying in the game much longer trebejo(2065) whispers: After a pair is exchanged, one rook is on the d file and the other is on the e file; both rooks are totally controlled by the quartet of knights trebejo(2065) whispers: It really seems difficult to avoid draws here
19.Nge4(3:17)Nxe4(0:21) 20.Qxe4(0:57)Rad8(2:09) 21.h3(2:19)Rfe8(5:35)
RavenKB(1914) whispers: 2 rooks for a queen i guess hes checking
22.Qxe8+(2:42)Rxe8(0:04) 23.Rxe8+(0:05)Kh7(0:01)
trebejo(2065) whispers: normally i prefer the rooks
24.Rd7(3:53)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Those rooks must be better! Mekk(1898) whispers: Hmm, taking b7 is risky, as then rooks cant defend one another. So maybe f5 and white rooks somewhat lack squares
24...Qb4(7:35)
trebejo(2065) whispers: I like how Black dealt with this Mekk(1898) whispers: Nd5 interesting, ideas around Nf6. But I am to tired to calc trebejo(2065) whispers: The white knight is getting harassed, which can generate an initiative Mekk(1898) whispers: Rd2 can be calmly playable, with idea to improve N before attacking again Mekk(1898) whispers: Or Rxf7 Qxb2 Ne4 mayhaps defending f2 and threatening to join attack trebejo(2065) whispers: i agree, if white just wants to hold the position then he should be fine Mekk(1898) whispers: In discussions Q vs 2R I usually tended to believe 2R are better (unless Q thretens sth immediate). So would be nice if white proved a point ;-)
25.Rxf7(8:46)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Nd1 looks stupid but also defends Mekk(1898) whispers: OK white is aggressive. Interesting how he intends to progress trebejo(2065) whispers: wow allowing Qxb2 is risky
25...Qxb2(0:26)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Rf3 is calm Mekk(1898) whispers: somewhat trebejo(2065) whispers: black has a queenside majority now Mekk(1898) whispers: I suppose someone will mate or perp-check before it matters
26.Re3(1:25)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Now Rg3 is somewhat simple brutal threat trebejo(2065) whispers: 26...Ne5 27.Re7 Nd3 :) trebejo(2065) whispers: yikes never mind Mekk(1898) whispers: Ne5 Rxe5 Qxc3 Re7. Hmm, here q majority can matter Mekk(1898) whispers: ... but white can consume pawn before xg7 Mekk(1898) whispers: Kg8 maybe to disturb rook a bit Mekk(1898) whispers: Or Nd8 + Qb6 + Ne6 to defend g7 ?
26...Ne5(9:18)
damouno(2112) whispers: !! Mekk(1898) whispers: If white takes, he is safe and maybe will manage to win. damouno(2112) whispers: no..black has draw in hand Mekk(1898) whispers: (doubled rooks on 7th) damouno(2112) whispers: , black is better still..he can guard G7 sq.and push q side pawns Mekk(1898) whispers: Which pawns, white takes at least one of them Mekk(1898) whispers: Rxe5 Qxc3 R5e7 and a7 or b7 must fall damouno(2112) whispers: PUSH B pawn..
27.Rxe5(2:49)
Madmansreturn(1990) whispers: I would have thought white is slightly better here with Rxe5 and doubling on the 7th rank ? Mekk(1898) whispers: if b pushed, then a7 taken and a2 defended damouno(2112) whispers: ack , swap B for A pawn...black has draw..at least Madmansreturn(1990) whispers: or scrap slightly and plain better? Mekk(1898) whispers: black must guard g7 with Q forever, mayhaps white will manage to forward f pawn to harass enough Mekk(1898) whispers: taken. Koff(2169) whispers: isn't this clearly better for white? Mekk(1898) whispers: IMHO it is plus, but not sure whether winnable
27...Qa1+(1:26) 28.Kh2(0:15)
Mekk(1898) whispers: For a moment I thought that there is Qc1 + Qf4 taking e5
28...Qxc3(0:03)
Koff(2169) whispers: well at least the pawn ending is won
29.Ree7(0:10)
Mekk(1898) whispers: R5e7 and no way black can force pawn ending Koff(2169) whispers: black? Mekk(1898) whispers: white takes one pawn from a7-b7 now
29...b5(1:00)
Mekk(1898) whispers: later on white should be able to swap remaining pawns q-side, then finish on g7 and remaing with 3 vs 1 pawn Madmansreturn(1990) whispers: and then on g7 I guess? Mekk(1898) whispers: Rxa7 obvious now, the question is how to clear q-side afterwards, this is risky step Mekk(1898) whispers: or maybe just take a7, then g7?
30.Rxa7(1:55)
trebejo(2065) whispers: this is a draw Mekk(1898) whispers: how is Mekk(1898) whispers: Rxg7 next move even damouno(2112) whispers: Black pushes H pawn..induce white kside weaknesses trebejo(2065) whispers: white can take on g7 but winning is a different matter damouno(2112) whispers: First Qe5+ induce g3 damouno(2112) whispers: then Pawn H5 hehe Mekk(1898) whispers: f4 maybe Mekk(1898) whispers: (not g3)
30...Kg6(1:32)
Mekk(1898) whispers: xg7 and white wins pawn ending if swapped. And if not, black king is poor
31.Rxg7+(1:17)Kf6(0:04)
trebejo(2065) whispers: the rooks have done all their damage now trebejo(2065) whispers: not a single white pawn looks close to becoming a queen Mekk(1898) whispers: Rgf7 to keep things safe and f2 covered. IMHO trebejo(2065) whispers: hard to move things now without allowing perpetual checks Mekk(1898) whispers: then one idea is to march f pawn, another to get rooks back to 3rd line and attack b5
32.Raf7+(1:40)Ke6(0:04)
damouno(2112) whispers: yes white playing for a win..at worst a draw.. Mekk(1898) whispers: Hmm, a2 undefended
33.Re7+(0:30)
Mekk(1898) whispers: I dont like moving R from a file. But maybe white wants to drag king from kside
33...Kd6(0:35)
trebejo(2065) whispers: white should really work on pushing the f pawn Mekk(1898) whispers: but Rf7 first I think
34.Rg3(2:07)
Mekk(1898) whispers: And while on f4 pawn is ok, once it moves to f5 indeed perps arise Mekk(1898) whispers: Hmm, unexp Mekk(1898) whispers: Can attack a2 with tempi Mekk(1898) whispers: Or say Qd4 Mekk(1898) whispers: attack on f2 and rook on e7 attacked
34...Qb2(0:47)
trebejo(2065) whispers: i guess he means to capture h6 trebejo(2065) whispers: it's an interesting swap because white can always contain the b pawn sideways trebejo(2065) whispers: eg put both rooks on the third rank, then start pushing the kingside pawns Mekk(1898) whispers: what remains of them trebejo(2065) whispers: he only needs one Mekk(1898) whispers: black starts having ideas like h5-h4 PreZandy(1761) whispers: Ra7 then Rb3 Mekk(1898) whispers: Ra7 Qxa2 Mekk(1898) whispers: ops trebejo(2065) whispers: 35.Rh7 Mekk(1898) whispers: Ra7 Qxf2 Ra6 + Rxh6 there is Mekk(1898) whispers: but after b4 a2 can be in danger trebejo(2065) whispers: 35.Rh7 Qxa2 (say) 36. Rxh6+ Kc5 37.Rf6 followed by Rff3
35.Rf7(2:52)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Rh7 Qxf2 and a3 ?
35...Qxa2(1:33)
trebejo(2065) whispers: sure, if black doesn't capture on a2 in that line, he has no play damouno(2112) whispers: eek eek
36.Rf6+(0:29)
trebejo(2065) whispers: i don't understand this version of the idea Mekk(1898) whispers: White picks some less comfortable redactions Mekk(1898) whispers: Kc5 Rxh6 b4 and this pawns is suddenly dangerous
36...Kc5(0:50)
trebejo(2065) whispers: f2 is loose damouno(2112) whispers: yes ack ! trebejo(2065) whispers: i'm surprised white chose this version damouno(2112) whispers: well Kurumim should be happy hehe
37.Rf5+(1:19)Kb4(0:32)
Mekk(1898) whispers: after Rxh6 not sure whether black should take f2, tempi for b march may be more important trebejo(2065) whispers: i guess white wants the b pawn
38.Rg4+(0:45)Kc3(1:37)
Mekk(1898) whispers: out of the sudden h6 pawn still alive and making white some problems. Why abandon b5? trebejo(2065) whispers: there was no choice trebejo(2065) whispers: b5 was falling allanchs(1665) whispers: good one to get PreZandy(1761) whispers: Rf3 then Rb4
39.Rf3+(1:15)Kc2(0:43)
PreZandy(1761) whispers: Rb4 then Rfb3 trebejo(2065) whispers: the trouble with not capturing on b5 is that the pawn endgames are not so good for white now
40.Rb4(1:46)Qd5(0:20)
PreZandy(1761) whispers: Ah, Rfb3 is not possible, ok, good! trebejo(2065) whispers: white has allowed these possibities now Mekk(1898) whispers: checks start being possible. And g3 mean trouble with rook def
41.Rff4(1:37)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Qe5, just to make life harder. And h5 mayhaps trebejo(2065) whispers: i like Qd6 with the same idea
41...Qd6(1:15)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Qd6 leaves b5 trebejo(2065) whispers: if the black king was already on c3, it would be a wonderful cheapo
42.g3(0:23)Qc5(0:18) 43.Rbe4(1:14)
Mekk(1898) whispers: I am not sure white has win anymore. King is more exposed Mekk(1898) whispers: and if some rook leaves 4th, b4 follows and white is in danger
43...Qd5(1:08)
trebejo(2065) whispers: a white rook on h4 and another on f4 seems right Mekk(1898) whispers: this is prefectly safe to defend but how to win?
44.Rd4(1:28)
trebejo(2065) whispers: i envision the white rooks on the 3rd or 2nd rank, behind their f pawn
44...Qc5(0:28) 45.g4(0:48)
Mekk(1898) whispers: no ti me for that trebejo(2065) whispers: the time pressure is starting to be mutual :) Mekk(1898) whispers: Kc3 Mekk(1898) whispers: threatening QxR and b pawn queens
45...Kc3(0:45)
trebejo(2065) whispers: another way for white to proceed is to play Rfe4 and f2-f4
46.Rde4(0:08)
Mekk(1898) whispers: probably double on third rank and then forward h4-g4-g5 trebejo(2065) whispers: yes the g5 push also works Mekk(1898) whispers: but if black plays h4 Mekk(1898) whispers: there can be trouble on h2-b8 diagonal
46...Qd5(1:04)
Mekk(1898) whispers: h5 can be another disturbance by black trebejo(2065) whispers: 47.Re3+, 48.Rff3 etc Mekk(1898) whispers: then Qd6+ and b4 mayhaps
47.Kg3(1:32)
trebejo(2065) whispers: the pawn can get to b4, but not b3 trebejo(2065) whispers: ever Mekk(1898) whispers: well, not so long ago it seemed easily doomed Mekk(1898) whispers: I consider h5
47...Qd6(0:45) 48.h4(0:21)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Qd1 and h5. Not sur ewhether good but another disturb
48...Kc2(0:39) 49.g5(0:23)
trebejo(2065) whispers: 49...h5 keeps some chances Mekk(1898) whispers: h5 looks only idea to compl
49...Qa3+(0:52)
Mekk(1898) whispers: hmm, are there variations where black can sac Q for R and promote pawn in spite of 2nd rook being alie
50.Kg4(0:46)hxg5(0:12)
Mekk(1898) whispers: white seems back on track
51.hxg5(0:29)
Mekk(1898) whispers: I dont get Kc2 a moment ago, and Qa3 also suspicious trebejo(2065) whispers: i'm afraid Beto tried too hard to win this drawish game
51...Qa1(1:03)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Qd3 and some checks all around?
52.Re2+(0:41)
Mekk(1898) whispers: Kd3
52...Kd3(0:57) 53.Re3+(0:16)Kd2(0:04) 54.g6(0:30)
Mekk(1898) whispers: ... but now king obscures some checks (say after Qd1 no more Qd7). So Qd3 could be better than Qa1 trebejo(2065) whispers: hmmm trebejo(2065) whispers: 54...b4 55.Rxb4 Qf6 seems to pick up the g pawn Mekk(1898) whispers: Qg7 still some chance, once Kg5 and Rf7 checks again a bit around. b4 can be move to disturb rooks coord
54...Qg1+(1:27)
allanchs(1665) whispers: Rg3 Mekk(1898) whispers: Kf5
55.Kf5(0:50)
Mekk(1898) whispers: b4 still playable
55...Qb1+(0:48) 56.Ree4(0:38)Qb3(0:30)
Mekk(1898) whispers: maybe king should go to h7
57.Rd4+(1:06)Ke2(0:25)
Mekk(1898) whispers: f3 to disable Qh3 maybe
58.Kf6(0:35)Qa3(1:02) 59.g7(0:53)Qa8(0:44) 60.Rde4+(1:04)Kd2(0:17) 61.Kf7(1:21)Qb7+(0:36) 62.Kg6(0:24)
trebejo(2065) whispers: the final square is the toughest, because the king cannot continue beyond the 8th rank
62...Qc6+(0:46) 63.Kh7(0:02)Qb7(1:24) 64.Kh8(0:21)kurumim resigns 1-0
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