malcovich(2151) vs. jassch(2092) 1-0
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standard 45+45, 2012-08-04
1.d4 {(0:00)} Nf6 {(0:00)} 2.c4 {(0:04)} e6 {(0:03)} 3.Nc3 {(0:02)} Bb4 {(0:03)} 4.f3 {(0:06)} O-O {(0:25)JasSch(2092) whispers: I was really hoping he played 4.Qc2. Had something special prepared for that. }JasSch(2092) whispers: Of course, I had something special prepared for this too..... :) milpat(1873) whispers: threat is Qh4+ i presume }anandkvs(2036) whispers: opening the game while not castled seems dangerous anandkvs(2036) whispers: ... fxe4 and ... e5 seems interesting anandkvs(2036) whispers: or even ... d5 }anandkvs(2036) whispers: I suppose White is planning to castle Q side milpat(1873) whispers: qside is damaged shelter anandkvs(2036) whispers: Black's K side might be an easier target than white Q side anandkvs(2036) whispers: If white castles K-side, black has a ready made attack with ... e5, ... f4, ... g4 etc. Not decisive of course, but dangerous I think }JasSch(2092) whispers: The thing that I liked about this variation when I studied it is that almost all of black's moves are obvious but white's moves are not. }mindlin(1994) whispers: exciting position here milpat(1873) whispers: :o JasSch(2092) whispers: This has got to be sound. All that he has holding his game together is that broad pawn center. It's worth a piece to destroy it (I hope)...... MALCOVICH(2151) whispers: wow...well, I don,t think I have much a choice can't let his knight come to f4... }Boedi(2279) whispers: rxf1 bxh3 is also an option }Boedi(2279) whispers: after Nc6 ofc }milpat(1873) whispers: was looking at that, boedi, will be better now that a8 rook is free i suppose }Boedi(2279) whispers: looks promising indeed purplepawns(1845) whispers: Qd5+ just seems to have lost a tempo mindlin(1994) whispers: well the Bd6 blocks Qe4 for now Boedi(2279) whispers: with a knight on e5 the 2 pieces are very strong }JasSch(2092) whispers: In for the goose, in for the gander..... }Boedi(2279) whispers: very hard position to play for white JasSch(2092) whispers: Black has got to be better here. White's pawn structure sucks canal water. He still lags development. His king is caught in the center. And his broad pawn center was destroyed. Worth an exchange+pawn, I think... milpat(1873) whispers: Rg1 interesting Boedi(2279) whispers: U planning qd5 after qe4 then? pchesso(1800) whispers: Qd5+, 0-0-0 and return the exchange, if necessary? Boedi(2279) whispers: first part ok, but dont return the exchange milpat(1873) whispers: return the exhange, black would be better, see pawns Boedi(2279) whispers: u need activity if it comes to an endgame u lose Boedi(2279) whispers: yeah cause of that milpat(1873) whispers: 6 pawns, 6 x isolated ... hard to reach even u try :) purplepawns(1845) whispers: whites pawns look weaker then they are milpat(1873) whispers: not if u give the exchange back, i presume, PP (as they were saying) purplepawns(1845) whispers: giving the exchange back would be suicidal milpat(1873) whispers: yea, ...because of pawns, thats what we were saying MALCOVICH(2151) whispers: I think I need to get rid of that black "mumba"...my king is so weak. I have Qd5+ on Qxe4 so now I must think of best square for my sovereign. purplepawns(1845) whispers: rg1 has its own threat of bxh6 and qxe4 qd5 trades Q whites doesnt look so bad milpat(1873) whispers: Rg1 the most interesting yes (unless u have better suggestion?) }MALCOVICH(2151) whispers: let's do a threat of our own...I hate just defending! }anandkvs(2036) whispers: q exchange hmm milpat(1873) whispers: but Nxe5 would be a move that black wants to do anyway milpat(1873) whispers: thats why not xe4 i presume }anandkvs(2036) whispers: keeping q on board might have been even better I think }milpat(1873) whispers: Be6 RonnieDuckach(2280) whispers: Bg4 }milpat(1873) whispers: ah to prevent 0-0-0 milpat(1873) whispers: interesting play by black RonnieDuckach(2280) whispers: c5 anandkvs(2036) whispers: 0-0-0 might have been better than Rg3 RonnieDuckach(2280) whispers: bxh5 milpat(1873) whispers: Bd4 perhaps? }milpat(1873) whispers: urgh purplepawns(1845) whispers: seems to me black should still be happy to draw this let alone win it anandkvs(2036) whispers: Black might have had better chances if q hadn't been exchanged milpat(1873) whispers: been affraid of Nf3 for aq moment :P purplepawns(1845) whispers: black should have qxe4 it was another pawn off the board milpat(1873) whispers: cxd5 was just solving white structure problems i guess pp }milpat(1873) whispers: ok, the fun part Kf2! purplepawns(1845) whispers: a pawn is still a pawn milpat(1873) whispers: maybe he prefers purple ones purplepawns(1845) whispers: |_|D }milpat(1873) whispers: Rf8? }milpat(1873) whispers: Rf8 Rxg4 Nxd4+ was interesting RonnieDuckach(2280) whispers: Malco is going to take this }milpat(1873) whispers: yes milpat(1873) whispers: pawns are ok now milpat(1873) whispers: rooks will dominate }purplepawns(1845) whispers: the e4 pawn was a strong central pawn it really should be gone }milpat(1873) whispers: tell me after the game jasch why not Rf8 instead xd4 purplepawns(1845) whispers: white will play e5 at some point and it will now be passed }purplepawns(1845) whispers: black has played a strange game - his plan was to destroy the center but he has reinstated it instead milpat(1873) whispers: yep he helped restore milpat(1873) whispers: maybe there is a "repair what u destroyed" rule in his religion :) }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: yes the decision to repair the pawn structure is baffling to me. i thought black was winning until then milpat(1873) whispers: now h-file problem }milpat(1873) whispers: Rh3 and Rah1 idf allowed }purplepawns(1845) whispers: i think the nf3+ forced black to restore it }Triarius(2091) whispers: with 2 or more open files having a better structure doesn't mean much, in a R+R vs R+B endgame }purplepawns(1845) whispers: the h pawn poses now real threat i dont think - white K well placed purplepawns(1845) whispers: no* }JasSch(2092) whispers: The last time I was in a R+R vs R+B was with Rosadot in TL44. He found a nice combo then and beat me. Ain't gonna happen again. }JasSch(2092) whispers: Kxh4 Rh7+ Kg5 Rg7+ Kf6 Rxg1 Kxe6 Re6 was a draw. BethanyGrace(1604) whispers: Go Jassch ;) Plebusan(1820) whispers: Jassch has a nice, positive attitude JasSch(2092) whispers: Make that Rg6+, not Re6 PankracyRozumek(1758) whispers: go jassch! }purplepawns(1845) whispers: its all about the e-pawn - black could have captured it - he didnt - now it could lose him the game }Triarius(2091) whispers: Rf7+ and then Be6 was better imho purplepawns(1845) whispers: the only thing going for black is whites clock }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: ? JasSch(2092) whispers: Rxe5?? Rxc4! Triarius(2091) whispers: R:c4 anyway? anandkvs(2036) whispers: Rxc4 wins I think }anandkvs(2036) whispers: this is also ok anandkvs(2036) whispers: I've seen 4 2600s anandkvs(2036) whispers: oops mistell }JasSch(2092) whispers: I got a draw...... anandkvs(2036) whispers: Rd3 or even Rxc4 wins anandkvs(2036) whispers: err re3 I mean purplepawns(1845) whispers: this will be a remarkable save by black if he pulls it off mindlin(1994) whispers: here we go Rxc4 right? anandkvs(2036) whispers: I prefer Rxc4, but Re3 is also ok Plebusan(1820) whispers: save? Black has sounded optimistic about his chances since the start JasSch(2092) whispers: Or, rather, he does.... }purplepawns(1845) whispers: this combinations are far deeper then what an 2100er would see purplepawns(1845) whispers: i have my doubts about some of these players Gorgonian(1636) whispers: what is your reference for the limitations of a 2100's calculation JasSch(2092) whispers: hmmmm Plebusan(1820) whispers: he may have calculated this wrongly Plebusan(1820) whispers: thus proving he is 2100 :) }purplepawns(1845) whispers: i think black has played this perfectly purplepawns(1845) whispers: and humans are not perfect Plebusan(1820) whispers: to me it looks like the white a-pawn will win the game }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: agree plebusan }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: looks trivially won for white to me anandkvs(2036) whispers: Kd5, then rxc2 }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: actually i take that back not 100% sure Gorgonian(1636) whispers: too lazy and watching a movie :) purplepawns(1845) whispers: black is perhaps a tempo short Plebusan(1820) whispers: # yes, Rxc2 and Kxc-pawn Gorgonian(1636) whispers: eh surely its won. i calculated Rxc2 as a worst case for white Gorgonian(1636) whispers: and i forgot that Kd5 puts white even further ahead in the race. should be won, yes }Plebusan(1820) whispers: actually, not totally sure either }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: a6 should do it }anandkvs(2036) whispers: what is this Plebusan(1820) whispers: but now the Rxc2 version doesnt work anandkvs(2036) whispers: why a6 }purplepawns(1845) whispers: i dont know whats going on }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: lol anandkvs(2036) whispers: white blundered in time trouble Maras(2219) whispers: still win? anandkvs(2036) whispers: but he might still win with Kc4 }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: i dont think white blundered mindlin(1994) whispers: oh he didn't take purplepawns(1845) whispers: ah yes - the pain of the doubled pawns comes to light }anandkvs(2036) whispers: i spoke too soon, but Rxc2 seemed to me simpler Plebusan(1820) whispers: is this different than with the a-pawn still on a5? }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: a6 was so that he could win a7 without losing a6 }purplepawns(1845) whispers: black needs to keep white K on a file but not sure he can anandkvs(2036) whispers: he could have just played a6 after Kxc4 }Gorgonian(1636) whispers: trivial }
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jassch (2012-08-05): 50....Kd4?? A huge blunder. This is a draw but it must be played precisely. My instincts were right but my calculation was wrong. The right move is 50....Kd5!!, paradoxically. This forces white to take with the rook and keeps the white king one file away from the queenside. And that's all it takes. Chess is sometimes a funny game.
malcovich (2012-10-02): 100% current...but your ridiciculous overenthusiasm of black's position during the game certainly is NOT! I mean, come on!
malcovich (2012-10-02): ok I wrote that while I was drunk...I meant 100% correct but your ridiculous over-enthusiasm etc...