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daroos(2139) vs. florinc(2245) 1/2-1/2

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1.e4 (0:00) Nc6 (0:00) 2.f4 (0:09) a5 (0:48) 3.d4 (0:38) e6 (0:24) 4.Nf3 (0:05) Bb4+ (0:38)
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: test 5.c3 (0:10) Bd6 (0:02) 6.Be3 (0:11)
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: I hope that daroos looked at alefzero's games with florin.. a4 (0:38)
derMandarin(1978) whispers: lol
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: wtf is Florin playing
BlkSabb(1871) whispers: so he can say, "wow, this guy plays weird stuff" 7.Bd3 (1:47)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: I suppose a3? a3 (1:40) 8.b4 (0:49) Nh6 (1:03)
BlkSabb(1871) whispers: his openings with Black are pretty ugly
BlkSabb(1871) whispers: He should play a normal Pirc or Modern 9.h3 (0:19)
derMandarin(1978) whispers: he always goes and seeks the disadvantage in the opening :) O-O (0:14)
Lomax(2291) whispers: I guess Nxa3 was worth testing
Lomax(2291) whispers: I really doubt black is doing well with Bxa3 bxa3 10.Qb3 (1:08)
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: it looks horrible for black, florin likes that
derMandarin(1978) whispers: this is like setting up a puzzle and trying to solve it afterwards Re8 (2:42) 11.Nxa3 (1:09) Be7 (0:04)
BlkSabb(1871) whispers: is White getting overextended here? 12.O-O-O (0:56) d5 (0:25)
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: comment please
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: lomax say sth smart:)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Black will win ;)
hundirector(2262) whispers: why?:)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Honestly, I don't understand why white has castled long ...
Lomax(2291) whispers: After opening the a-file ...
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: i suppose daroos just like it:)
hundirector(2262) whispers: yea it makes no sense really
derMandarin(1978) whispers: this is stuff is just way too over the head for me, lol
Lomax(2291) whispers: Well, it's just real chess :)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: I just figured out 13.e5 (3:29)
Lomax(2291) whispers: I think white should go for an attack on the k-side
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: FlorinC is actually IM Basman in disguise
Lomax(2291) whispers: But Qb3 and Na3 are not well placed for that aim
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: Nobody else plays that crappy openings
derMandarin(1978) whispers: but you cannot call it boring though :)
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: yeah
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: thats great for us :)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: *yawns*
Lomax(2291) whispers: I think florinc style are lines like Bd7 g4 (maybe) Nxb4 cxb4 Ba4 Qb2 Bxd1 Rxd1 b6 intending c5 maybe and opening additional lines on the q-side
Lomax(2291) whispers: Might very well be that black's attack is faster then
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: for that reason I don't like white king on c1 Nf5 (5:58)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Bf2, obviously 14.Bf2 (0:44) Nh4 (0:15)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Interesting, after exchanging both minors it seems the black q can eat either f4 or g2
Lomax(2291) whispers: I guess Nxh4 Bxh4 g3! is the best approach here 15.Nxh4 (1:41) Bxh4 (0:03) 16.g3 (0:09) Be7 (0:13)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: yeah, I like that
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: go daroos
Lomax(2291) whispers: Now Nc2-e3 looks very logical
Lomax(2291) whispers: But still the Q is badly placed at b3
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: ne3 qc2 g4 arent that good ideas? 17.Kb2 (2:05)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Sure, but a bit slow maybe
Lomax(2291) whispers: It takes a long time for white to create any real threats on the k-side, it seems
Lomax(2291) whispers: While blacks attack might develop rather fast, esp after some sac at b4 eventually h6 (1:46)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: well maybe some Nc2, a4, Be1-d2?
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: I don't like h6
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: gives white a target
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: h6 is bad
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: seems like white is planning Bb1 Qc2
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: g4 f5 than maybe
pollock(2065) whispers: go florin go florin go !
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: i take en passant
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: dawaj daroos
pollock(2065) whispers: florins position appears dubious
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: when it's not?
pollock(2065) whispers: altho florin often wins from dubious positions :)
KiranY(1964) whispers: How can black form an attack?
pollock(2065) whispers: b6 c5 possibly
pollock(2065) whispers: qb8 qa7
pollock(2065) whispers: altho its pretty hard 18.Bb1 (4:11)
pollock(2065) whispers: eek scary :S
pollock(2065) whispers: nb8 :0
KiranY(1964) whispers: Na5
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: and what after bxa?
pollock(2065) whispers: panic :)
KiranY(1964) whispers: rx
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: nc2
KiranY(1964) whispers: you are right pollock
pollock(2065) whispers: f5 possibly
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: it will crush black
Lomax(2291) whispers: Nb8 Qc2 g6 h4 Nd7 h5 Nf8 seems just to hold
pollock(2065) whispers: that was my nb8 plan :)
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: maybe not h4 just g4 for white?
pollock(2065) whispers: altho hardly can have faith in the g6 pawn holding for long
Lomax(2291) whispers: Well, the h6 is doomed after hxg6 in this line Bd7 (4:59)
pollock(2065) whispers: brave florin :)
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: so qb8
Lomax(2291) whispers: I think Qc2 g6 Qd2! is the most sensible approach here (if h4 instead, Nxb4 has to be taken into account)
pollock(2065) whispers: qc2 may allow some sac on b4 with rxa3 or some such stuff
pollock(2065) whispers: cant quite get it to work
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: what to say until start of game?
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: we are starting second game
pollock(2065) whispers: qc2 g6 h4 nxb4 cxb3 bxb4 rd3 was line i was looking at
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: Kibo, t teamleague play
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: after start or before?
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: *to* start
cytrus(2021) whispers: after
cytrus(2021) whispers: before :P
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: don't confuse him, cytrus
cytrus(2021) whispers: tell teamleague play ... itd.
cytrus(2021) whispers: his my player :P 19.Qc2 (8:27) g6 (0:04)
fernbap(1753) whispers: very subtle :P
pollock(2065) whispers: florins king doesnt have many friends :(
Lomax(2291) whispers: The king is a strong piece who can take care of himself (W. Steinitz)
cytrus(2021) whispers: but not in this game I think :) 20.Qd2 (2:05)
pollock(2065) whispers: this move is strong
ZaKrzutek(2252) whispers: why not h4? too slow?
pollock(2065) whispers: this rules out nxb4
ZaKrzutek(2252) whispers: Nb4 cb4 Bb4 h5
Lomax(2291) whispers: Nb4 cb4 Bb4 h5 Bxa3 Ka1 Kg7! hxg6 f6! and black looks fine to me
pollock(2065) whispers: possibly sac bishop with bxa3 qxa3 ba4 qd3 bb5
ZaKrzutek(2252) whispers: Lomax Rxh6 is not working?
Lomax(2291) whispers: Not sure ... long and complicated line
pollock(2065) whispers: its a little more messy
Lomax(2291) whispers: Rh8 might be possible then Kg7 (3:50)
pollock(2065) whispers: this is clear
pollock(2065) whispers: whether it is clear and good remains to be seen :)
pollock(2065) whispers: go florin!
pollock(2065) whispers: smash em
Lomax(2291) whispers: I still don't really like white here ... Na3 and Kb2 seem to high a price to pay for the a-pawn ...
Lomax(2291) whispers: Nc2 looks in need 21.g4 (6:37) Rg8 (0:04)
pollock(2065) whispers: hmm nc2 does reinforce b4 but it blocks bb1 from doing anything
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: wtf was the opening about??
pollock(2065) whispers: not sure pure defense queenside is way
Lomax(2291) whispers: Na3 is doing nothing ... just needs protection
pollock(2065) whispers: suppose
pollock(2065) whispers: florin plays weird stuff to get an interesting game :)
Lomax(2291) whispers: To get an imbalenced game would be more precise, maybe :)
pollock(2065) whispers: when you play the middlegame aswell as him quite possible
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: how about Bd3 first, then Nc2
pollock(2065) whispers: maybe a2 is a little weakened
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: although he played Bb1 just a couple moves back i see
Lomax(2291) whispers: No, Bb1 defends a2 and is part of some potential B+Q battery
Lomax(2291) whispers: It has to stay there
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: well my idea was to play a3 and defend the queenside with the N instead
Lomax(2291) whispers: You still loose the battery option then ...
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: i think you're right lomax
Lomax(2291) whispers: Bd3 is by no means a bad move, esp. if part of some plan :)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Bd3, Nc2 and a3 does make a lot of sense ... 22.h4 (4:56)
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: well that seems to go for the battery :)
pollock(2065) whispers: rxa3 kxa3 na5 maay be something
Lomax(2291) whispers: Looks like burning the ships to me ... ;)
pollock(2065) whispers: probably bd3 good there
Lomax(2291) whispers: Ra4 maybe ... intending Nxb4
pollock(2065) whispers: if look hard enough there will be a sac queenside :)
Lomax(2291) whispers: I think black can defend with some Be8
Lomax(2291) whispers: After h4-h5, it is Qb8 (4:13)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Though Be8 is not needed immediately
Lomax(2291) whispers: Last moment for Bd3 now, I guess
Lomax(2291) whispers: OH ... to late already ...
pollock(2065) whispers: didnt want to play qb8 :(
pollock(2065) whispers: seems slow
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: aren't you playing kiboplaying ? :)
KiboPlaying(2007) whispers: is it a problem??:)
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: for me it would be :)
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: but i am just a cat, after all
Lomax(2291) whispers: Might depend on your result and the sentences implied by your team ;)
Lomax(2291) whispers: I've to admit I prefer black here, at least a bit
Lomax(2291) whispers: Should have gone for the Bd3, Nc2 and a3 setup, I guess
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: I still like white
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: but there is no more time to waste... f5!
Lomax(2291) whispers: Not sure about f5 exf gxf Bxf BxB gxf Rg1 Kh7 ... 23.f5 (9:06)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Qa7 is very naste then ... a3 and a2 hang
Maras(2190) whispers: ... kh7 qf4
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: I didn't calculate, I feel it's a good move intuitively
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: meow
Maras(2190) whispers: I like white here
derMandarin(1978) whispers: wow black really messed up here
Lomax(2291) whispers: Bf8!? might be an option ...
Maras(2190) whispers: if bf8 then f6 and h5 i guess
Lomax(2291) whispers: Bf8 f6 Kh7 h5 Be8 seems to hold ...
Maras(2190) whispers: really? hg fg be3 what next?
Maras(2190) whispers: or even rxh6
Maras(2190) whispers: with open h line and king on h7 white must be winning easily exf5 (6:48)
Maras(2190) whispers: gxf or is there any other option?
abkbyfktrc(1909) whispers: Be3?
Maras(2190) whispers: yeah, possible, but i like gxf more 24.h5 (4:29)
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: Bg5 or am i missing anything?
Lomax(2291) whispers: Bg5 Be3 ... I think Qa7 hxg is the principle line
Maras(2190) whispers: after qa7 nb5 possible and only then hg
Lomax(2291) whispers: f5-f4!? maybe ... Qa7 (3:45)
pollock(2065) whispers: go florin! 25.Nb5 (1:49)
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: meow! Na5 (1:10)
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: interesting
pollock(2065) whispers: yay
pollock(2065) whispers: smash em florin :) 26.bxa5 (2:31) Qxa5 (0:02)
pollock(2065) whispers: c4 doesnt work right? 27.hxg6 (0:51)
Lomax(2291) whispers: I'm not sure, but I think Qb6 was eventually better than Na5 ...
Lomax(2291) whispers: Now black seems to have real trouble on the k-side ...
Lomax(2291) whispers: I guess we'll see some king march for black ;)
fernbap(1753) whispers: not sure if it will save black, though Qxb5+ (5:24)
Lomax(2291) whispers: I guess no ... 28.Ka1 (0:21)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Ka1 Bg5 Be3 looks very strong ... fxg6 (0:20)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: I suppose white wins now
DeanA(2136) whispers: Material is equal, is white better at all I wonder? 29.gxf5 (2:03)
hundirector(2262) whispers: looks good.. :)
Lomax(2291) whispers: White should at least win the f5 and h6 pawns, being a pawn up then
pollock(2065) whispers: whats a good move? Bxf5 (3:00) 30.Bxf5 (0:06) gxf5 (0:01)
pollock(2065) whispers: blacks got some running to do :)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: white gotta be careful with sac on a2
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: like Qxh6 Kf7 Rdg1?? Rxa2 with mate
Lomax(2291) whispers: Yes, black seem to be able to escape with a draw here, maybe 31.Qxh6+ (1:24) Kf7 (0:03)
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: Qh5+
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: Ke6 Beh
Lomax(2291) whispers: Route is Ke6-d7-d8, I guess
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: Qh7 Ke6 Rh6 Kd7 e6 maybe
hundirector(2262) whispers: qh7 ke6 rh6 then qf5 and qc2 to defend a2?
Dreadtower(1438) whispers: e6 Ke8 Rdg1
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: right hun 32.Qh7+ (1:33) Ke6 (0:05) 33.Rh6+ (0:16) Kd7 (0:02) 34.Qxf5+ (0:02) Kd8 (0:03)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: no mate threat now
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: Bh4 maybe
Lomax(2291) whispers: Qc2 Qc4 intending Ra3 maybe ... black has a lot of activity for the pawn, it seems
pollock(2065) whispers: qb1 possibly aswell 35.Qc2 (0:53)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: this game is getting more interesting with every move b6 (0:35)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: loss of time
fernbap(1753) whispers: this is going to a won endgame for white
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: Florin is passive as usual
pollock(2065) whispers: time is still a factor
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: assuming hyper is right, and assuming the final position will be less interesting, there has to be a local maximum
pollock(2065) whispers: 2 minutes 30 until florin wins :) 36.Bh4 (1:43)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: good, white bishop was uselss anyway Bxh4 (2:55) 37.Rxh4 (0:03) Kc8 (0:01)
DeanA(2136) whispers: Here white must be winning, but it is tricky with 45 secs per move
SpinachDip(1486) whispers: Whites e-pawn will decide the game
Lomax(2291) whispers: Not sure ... after Kb7, Ra3 and Rga8 black might have chances for perpetual maybe, after sacing on a2
hundirector(2262) whispers: im not sure. i think black might be able to save this to a draw if he keeps up the pressure against the king 38.Rh2 (2:10) Kb7 (0:17) 39.Rb1 (0:18)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: daroo goign for queen exchange
Lomax(2291) whispers: Qc6, not loosing a tempo with Qc4? Qb3
abkbyfktrc(1909) whispers: Qc4 Qb3 ?
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: does this look drawish or what? yawn
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: miskib :)
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: your own fault :) Qc6 (2:58)
goki(1312) whispers: talk florinc wins 40.Qb3 (0:25)
abkbyfktrc(1909) whispers: Rf2 now?
Lomax(2291) whispers: I don't think so, but I think he might be able to draw this with relative ease ... Rg3 (0:14) 41.Rc2 (0:08)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: what do you think about Qb5 next
DeanA(2136) whispers: Qb5 Rxc3 and?
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: duh
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: nevermind
CamyC(2239) whispers: at least you didnt drop a mate in 2 this time ;) Rd3 (4:48)
CamyC(2239) whispers: only a pawn in 1 :) 42.Rbc1 (0:24)
DeanA(2136) whispers: Re1 looked better to me?!
Lomax(2291) whispers: Ra5 looks good now ...
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: white obviously went wrong somewhere
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: if he is tied to defense now
justanotherpawn(0) whispers: ..Qa4 ?
DeanA(2136) whispers: White is doing good here. He can use the e pawn to force black on the defensive. Ra5 (2:43) 43.Rb1 (0:12)
Lomax(2291) whispers: Actually I don't see a way for either side to make substantial progress here ...
Lomax(2291) whispers: If at all, black might improve it's position further, by c7-c5 maybe at some point
abkbyfktrc(1909) whispers: Rf2 and Rf6 for whites Ka6 (3:16) 44.Qb2 (0:43)
BehemothTheCat(2086) whispers: spectacular position of the white pieces
DeanA(2136) whispers: White is so careful it is dangerous. Kb7 (0:52)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: Qc1 I suppose 45.Qb3 (0:28)
HyperMagnus(2072) whispers: draw offer!
abkbyfktrc(1909) whispers: white's want draw :(
DeanA(2136) whispers: What does black have against the Re1-e6-e7-e8Q plan? Ka6 (1:18)
krhodes(2055) whispers: re1 qe6 maybe the pawn is easy to block
krhodes(2055) whispers: unless im missing something 46.Qb2 (0:35) Kb7 (0:03) daroos offers a draw. FlorinC accepts the draw request. Game drawn by mutual agreement 1/2-1/2

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