kurumim(2053) vs. thatday(2073) 0-1
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RavenKB(1918) whispers: whats all this then? 4...Nc6 (0:58) 5.e3 (1:50) Bd6 (1:07) 6.Bb5 (0:28) Ne7 (2:58) 7.Nf3 (2:33) O-O (3:33) 8.O-O (1:57) a6 (0:47) 9.Bxc6 (2:18) Nxc6 (0:09) 10.Nc3 (9:10) b5 (3:48) 11.a4 (5:24) b4 (1:41) 12.Ne4 (0:03) f5 (1:52) 13.Nxd6 (0:31) cxd6 (0:04) 14.Qe2 (6:32) Bb7 (1:48) 15.e4 (3:17)
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Hi all! For me 15. Qc4+ --> 16.Qh4 maneuvre seemed interesting... 15...fxe4 (3:03) 16.Qxe4 (0:13) Qb6+ (0:09) 17.Qe3 (2:57)
PreZandy(1768) whispers: So, ...Rae8 is expected next? Also ...Rf4 possible...with further doubling
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Well, in case of Q exch on e3, ...Rf4 is no longer possible 17...Qxe3+ (4:07) 18.dxe3 (0:04) Ne7 (0:55)
Triarius(2380) whispers: still can go ne7 and nf5
Triarius(2380) whispers: even better than the rook lift, if you take into account that it might work better on the c file
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Yes, I also was concerned about c2 pawn...
kurumim(2053) whispers: my e-pawn is an easy target, but Kh1 didn't look better
Triarius(2380) whispers: wouldnt even swap a pair of rooks, since white has not much space there to defend it with heavy pieces
Triarius(2380) whispers: point is that after kh1 white always has time to go h3, while now that e3 pawn is a permanent weakness
Mekk(1909) whispers: oh how I would like to play e4. Pity it is impossible...
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Now both c and e pawns are under pressure
Mekk(1909) whispers: black wants d5 but then e5 undefended ... unless Bxf3
Triarius(2380) whispers: well, d6 too someday 19.Nd2 (4:46)
Mekk(1909) whispers: I dont like Nd2, less pressure on e5
Triarius(2380) whispers: black's pawn setup on the qside is what he needs to block white's pawn majority
Triarius(2380) whispers: the candidate pawn is the backward pawn
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Ok, clear offer was issued by White
Mekk(1909) whispers: hmm, or maybe white will manage e4 after all?
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Mekk, that would be nice indeed
Mekk(1909) whispers: Rxf1 Rxf1 Rc8 ... Not sure how to evaluate that
Triarius(2380) whispers: rc1 nd5, for example
Mekk(1909) whispers: white can even consider Nc4,
Mekk(1909) whispers: (Rc1 so passive...)
Triarius(2380) whispers: rf rf rc8 nc4 bd5 looks kinda decisive
Triarius(2380) whispers: cant really take on d6, r:c2 would be killer
Mekk(1909) whispers: there is even Na5 19...Bd5 (4:00)
Mekk(1909) whispers: interesting, no Rxf1
Mekk(1909) whispers: not sure about that, it seemed to me that with single rook black had more pressure
Mekk(1909) whispers: (ideas around pinned rook on c1 etc)
Mekk(1909) whispers: (pinned c2 pawn of course)
Mekk(1909) whispers: now why not jsut e4?
Mekk(1909) whispers: for white it seems OK and here it is with tempi
kurumim(2053) whispers: I don't think this was his best shot, let's what I can do
schachbjm(2407) whispers: hi :)
kurumim(2053) whispers: *let's see
schachbjm(2407) whispers: triarius, a draw means playoff-round, right?
PreZandy(1768) whispers: White's e4 advance makes again ...Rf4 possible 20.e4 (2:34)
Mekk(1909) whispers: e4 Rf4 just RxR
Mekk(1909) whispers: The only obstacle is that after Bb7 N is bound to defence
Triarius(2380) whispers: didn't do any calc, lol
Mekk(1909) whispers: but maybe white will be able to play c4 just now
Triarius(2380) whispers: win means playoffs, and thats what i know :P
kurumim(2053) whispers: with at least one pair of rooks off, I'll be able to activate my king
Mekk(1909) whispers: (wherever bishop moves, but more comfortably if it moves to b7) 20...Be6 (1:54)
Mekk(1909) whispers: ok, going back, if black had any idea playing Bd5, it was probably Be6
Mekk(1909) whispers: yeah 21.Rxf8+ (0:18)
Mekk(1909) whispers: I opt for c4 now. Even if b3 is weak after cx
Mekk(1909) whispers: hmm For white I would keep two rooks ;-)
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Is there an option of KxR here? 21...Kxf8 (2:12)
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Yes, it is
Mekk(1909) whispers: Maybe it is better, Rf1 Ke8possible
Mekk(1909) whispers: with one rook king may be ok on d7
Mekk(1909) whispers: again, I wanna c4 22.Kf2 (0:43)
PreZandy(1768) whispers: So Black R goes to c-file
Mekk(1909) whispers: Yeah Rc8 and no more c4
Triarius(2380) whispers: @schach yep in case of equal match points then head to head match points count first, fb head to head game points 22...Ke8 (2:16)
Mekk(1909) whispers: I don't get it. White doesnt play c3 or c4, black doesnt play Rc8 ;-)
Mekk(1909) whispers: (and even doesnt try preparing d5 too hard)
Mekk(1909) whispers: who wants draw here btw?
Triarius(2380) whispers: sometimes one player plays according to a wrong assessment but his opponent trusts him 23.Ke3 (4:18)
Mekk(1909) whispers: K on e3 looks nice 23...Ng6 (1:00)
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Yes, e4-pawn is not that isolated now :) 24.g3 (0:27)
Triarius(2380) whispers: still a potential target tho
PreZandy(1768) whispers: So ...d5 is already possible?
Mekk(1894) whispers: its double edged, e5 will be weak
Mekk(1894) whispers: I would pressure on c-file first, and improve king 24...Nf8 (1:37)
Mekk(1894) whispers: ugh, d5 disabled
Triarius(2380) whispers: i'd use my king too, or regroup the pieces starting from the knight
PreZandy(1768) whispers: e5 is guarded by the Knight? No longer though
Mekk(1894) whispers: N was useful on g6 for a timeI IMHO
Mekk(1894) whispers: even if only to keep white busy calc-ing d5 on every move
Mekk(1894) whispers: so ... c3 or c4 by white now?
Mekk(1894) whispers: black is practically forced to xc3, and white q-side is a bit less weak. b3 is defended by N
Mekk(1894) whispers: and b4-b5 seems possible afterwards
PreZandy(1768) whispers: I think c4 square should be for the Knight 25.c3 (3:56)
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Nc4 with further pressure on e5
Mekk(1894) whispers: Finally!
Slek(2010) whispers: I thought he's push c4
Mekk(1894) whispers: probably doesnt matter albeit c4 was more forcing
Slek(2010) whispers: right, Mekk
Mekk(1894) whispers: white may also try attacking d6 after exchange. This N on f8 is sth what adds to pic
PreZandy(1768) whispers: ...bxc3 Bxc3 Rc8 Bb2 Rb8 - and b3 falls
Mekk(1894) whispers: Bb2 not only move
Mekk(1894) whispers: why no Ba5
Mekk(1894) whispers: or even Bb4
Mekk(1894) whispers: Ba5 allows b4 and Bb4 attack d6
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Well, yes, you are right
Mekk(1894) whispers: bxc3 Bxc3 Rc8 Bb4 Rb8 Bxd6 Bxb3 Nxb3 Bxf8 or so looks liquidately 25...a5 (7:01)
Mekk(1894) whispers: Ba5 mayhaps can try for adv
Mekk(1894) whispers: a5???
Mekk(1894) whispers: Just take on b4
trebejo(2065) whispers: an exchange of rooks might be good for white
Mekk(1894) whispers: hmm, both c4 and xb4 tempting
trebejo(2065) whispers: c3-c4 looks terrible
Mekk(1894) whispers: after xb4 a4 pawn is defended passer, after c4 d6 is doomed to be bad forever
RavenKB(1910) whispers: i like a5
Mekk(1894) whispers: I dont ;-)
RavenKB(1910) whispers: its akes whites piece play difficult
trebejo(2065) whispers: so white can swap on b4 and have a permanent outside passer
Mekk(1894) whispers: swap on b4, Rc1, nice pos but b3 rquires care
trebejo(2065) whispers: if the rooks come off, black will have no counterplay, might even be an easy win
Mekk(1894) whispers: c4 and white i sperfectly safe but maybe wont be able to win
RavenKB(1910) whispers: although it typically isnt dynamic enough to play structurally as this in an ending
trebejo(2065) whispers: black is in trouble
RavenKB(1910) whispers: not yet
Mekk(1894) whispers: after xb4 white has problem with bishop, it has no squares to activate 26.c4 (2:42)
trebejo(2065) whispers: swap on b4, post Rc1, the game plays itself
Mekk(1894) whispers: (N cant move as must defend b3)
RavenKB(1910) whispers: thats the point mekk 26...Nd7 (0:11)
Mekk(1894) whispers: maybe this is why c4 made sense
Mekk(1894) whispers: but now black goes to c5 with N and seems safe too
Mekk(1894) whispers: and even may calculate "sac piece for 2 pawns" variations
RavenKB(1910) whispers: i think its a pretty safe draw
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Time for Kd3 - Kc2
RavenKB(1910) whispers: i think h5 is important for white
Mekk(1894) whispers: not sure, black is 2 moves from Rf8
Mekk(1894) whispers: (this not sure is about K->c2)
Mekk(1894) whispers: Rf1 first I think
trebejo(2065) whispers: white may want to play Rf1 before Bh3 prevents it
RavenKB(1910) whispers: h4 to play g4 h5
Mekk(1894) whispers: black plays Ke7 and Rf8 and Nc5 and what white gets from this g4 h5?
RavenKB(1910) whispers: only g4 if Bf7 27.Rf1 (3:35)
Mekk(1894) whispers: why would black Bf7. Rf1 played, good IMHO 27...Nc5 (0:19) 28.Rf2 (0:04)
RavenKB(1910) whispers: black can attack e4 and b3 and tie down whites king
trebejo(2065) whispers: hmm 28...Bg4 is embarrassing
Mekk(1894) whispers: if white could teleport his bishop somewhere he would have nice pos 28...Ke7 (0:38)
Mekk(1894) whispers: now this is everything bound up, N cant move, B cant move until N move
trebejo(2065) whispers: white has gotten stuck now
Mekk(1894) whispers: after cxb4 those problems were too but a bit smaller 29.Bc1 (1:12)
PreZandy(1768) whispers: So 26. c4 was no good?
trebejo(2065) whispers: i never liked putting a pawn on c4
Mekk(1894) whispers: not yet sure. Ke2-d1-c2 still possible, then white may unbind 29...Bd7 (0:34)
trebejo(2065) whispers: don't know what people saw in it really
Mekk(1894) whispers: shielding b3 from bishop attacks, freezing d6 30.Bb2 (0:28) Bc6 (0:06)
trebejo(2065) whispers: oh that's what they sawy
RavenKB(1910) whispers: black cant make progress anyway
trebejo(2065) whispers: now that i see it, i still don't see it :(
Mekk(1894) whispers: why no, swap rooks and try pressuring
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Yes, with 26. cxb4 White at least could hope for a good passer
Mekk(1894) whispers: if rooks are swapped, even Nxb3 Nxb3 Bxa4 can be dangerous
RavenKB(1910) whispers: swag rooks and h4
Mekk(1894) whispers: or positionally bishop can go around via h3 somewheere 31.Rf5 (1:35)
trebejo(2065) whispers: things got really bad for white after c3-c4
RavenKB(1910) whispers: kf3 ba1 bb2 ba1 bb2
schachbjm(2407) whispers: how to evaluate the position? seems better for black, but is it enough?
trebejo(2065) whispers: he had like one move to loosen this bind 31...g6 (0:27)
Mekk(1894) whispers: so far white throw away two moves 32.Rf2 (0:09)
schachbjm(2407) whispers: Rf8 here, B to g4 maybe
schachbjm(2407) whispers: hard to say
Mayors(1755) whispers: can we say it is a draw?
Mekk(1894) whispers: maybe he could consider Re2 - Kf2 -e1 -... but Rf8 and he is completely bound 32...Rh8 (1:32)
trebejo(2065) whispers: perhaps white can place his rook on the e file and free his king
Mekk(1894) whispers: dont get Rh8. Is black wishing to open second file?
Mekk(1894) whispers: Rf8 looked more logical, white can't unbind and black king penetrates
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Beto, time!!
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Ohh 33.h3 (2:06)
Mayors(1755) whispers: omg 50 seconds for kurumim
Mekk(1894) whispers: Rf8 (instead of Rh8) then if RxR, white must keep K and N defending e4 and cant move, looks won for black. And if R moves , black adds f file to trumps
trebejo(2065) whispers: black is down to 50 seconds... after the 45 second increment :D 33...Bd7 (0:13)
schachbjm(2407) whispers: Bd7 g5 Rf8 sth. like this is what I would play proabably 34.Rh2 (0:32)
Mekk(1894) whispers: again Rf8 for free, but now white has more space on 2nd file
Mekk(1894) whispers: maybe white should look for Rh4 to defend e4 from the side 34...Rf8 (1:28)
Mekk(1894) whispers: (as a sidenote, I am still looking for Nxa4 or Nxb3, at good moment it can be great) 35.Ke2 (0:35) h5 (0:13)
RavenKB(1910) whispers: h4!!!!
Mekk(1894) whispers: (or maybe sac B, not N)
Mekk(1894) whispers: no, no h4
trebejo(2065) whispers: hmm white can reach Kc2 now
Mekk(1894) whispers: white dont want to lock it 36.Ke3 (0:35)
Mekk(1894) whispers: and allowing B to g4 is also not the greatest
schachbjm(2407) whispers: is g5-g4 a way to proceed here? 36...Ne6 (0:51)
Mekk(1894) whispers: why Ne6???
Mekk(1894) whispers: Kd3 allowed at least
trebejo(2065) whispers: i don't understand black's play at all
Mekk(1894) whispers: depends when, Nc5 was nice idea
trebejo(2065) whispers: he practically had white in zug, now... ?
Mekk(1894) whispers: maybe Ne6 to play Ng5 forcing h4, then go back 37.Nf3 (1:08)
Mekk(1894) whispers: to c5, then move B to g4 etc
Mekk(1894) whispers: but now white could play g4
Mekk(1894) whispers: ... and didnt
trebejo(2065) whispers: the white knight is doing better on g5 than d2
Mekk(1894) whispers: Nc5 and how to defend b3?
Slek(2010) whispers: this is getting drawish though, hard to see how white can attack the black pawns
PreZandy(1768) whispers: Raven, pedropablo has just arrived, have a good game!
Mayors(1755) whispers: Slek is there any way maybe we can call macron to fix it?
Mekk(1894) whispers: is anybody calculating well able to tell whats going on after Nc5 Nd2 Bxa4 bxa4 Bxa4?
Mekk(1894) whispers: (Nxa4 last, of course) Then N back to c5, a4-a3 ...
Slek(2010) whispers: :D 37...Nc5 (2:43) 38.Nd2 (0:03) Rf7 (2:06) 39.Ke2 (0:25)
Mekk(1894) whispers: If my sac works now can be best moment 39...g5 (0:45)
schachbjm(2407) whispers: mekk, your line seems to work
schachbjm(2407) whispers: however I do not see a reason to go for it here 40.Bc1 (0:27)
schachbjm(2407) whispers: g5-g4 seems easiest
Mekk(1894) whispers: g5-g4 offers white active rook 40...Bc6 (0:49)
Mekk(1894) whispers: (I understand we talk g4 hxg4 Bxg4, but then bishop is bound to defend pawn)
schachbjm(2407) whispers: after g4 white cannot really take due to Bxg4 (bishop needs to be on d7) and it is super dangerous for whitw
Mekk(1894) whispers: (after g4 hxg4 hxg4 h file is free for Rh8-a8 etc)
Mekk(1894) whispers: Bxg4 double edged, must defend h5 pawn forever. Again, in my humbl eop 41.Rf2 (1:37)
Mekk(1894) whispers: wow
Mayors(1755) whispers: oh 41...Rxf2+ (0:07)
schachbjm(2407) whispers: Nxb3 Rf3+ is possible to regain the piece immediately and whites structure is questionable
Mekk(1894) whispers: now it may be better 42.Kxf2 (0:10)
Mekk(1894) whispers: black king no more has squares to invade
Mayors(1755) whispers: 0.1 42...Nd3+ (0:07)
Mekk(1894) whispers: oh, thats
Mekk(1894) whispers: sth
schachbjm(2407) whispers: that was a blunder
Mekk(1894) whispers: too brutal
schachbjm(2407) whispers: bishop is gone
Mekk(1894) whispers: to even consider ;-)
kurumim(2053) whispers: sorry, team
PreZandy(1768) whispers: happens...
Mekk(1894) whispers: not that this bishop layed anything ... kurumim resigns 0-1
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