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twikki(2007) vs. gubbengraa(1995) 1-0

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11...Bd6 (5:20)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: This line is probably pretty good for black 12.Nd4 (3:22)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: I haven't checked it exhaustively at all, but black seems to get some nice positions in it
LNO(2000) whispers: there you are!
axeltiger(2176) whispers: hello
LNO(2000) whispers: I have been praising this line for half an hour already :)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: I saw
axeltiger(2176) whispers: I just wanted to check my notes on it
LNO(2000) whispers: and even officially announced that I will give it a shot!
LNO(2000) whispers: there are tactics in the position I think
LNO(2000) whispers: e6 can be very weak
axeltiger(2176) whispers: yeah
LNO(2000) whispers: in multiple ways
axeltiger(2176) whispers: black can play Nxd4 first though
LNO(2000) whispers: something must be done
LNO(2000) whispers: yes
LNO(2000) whispers: or e5 right away
LNO(2000) whispers: i dont like the N on f5 though ...
LNO(2000) whispers: normally black is content with trading the LSB.. but here?
LNO(2000) whispers: so takes on d4
Twikki(2007) whispers: I think black has major structural problems here
Twikki(2007) whispers: but I also think I may have the flu, so who knows if that's accurate
LNO(2000) whispers: he he
LNO(2000) whispers: hope you get well soon Twikki!
LNO(2000) whispers: play e5 and solve the problems
axeltiger(2176) whispers: can black play Be5 here?
LNO(2000) whispers: should one be overly impressed by that B on f5?
LNO(2000) whispers: oh that i didnt consider
axeltiger(2176) whispers: I know it's pretty unorthodox, but then again, it makes some sense in the position
LNO(2000) whispers: and no Nxe6 buissness?
axeltiger(2176) whispers: exactly
axeltiger(2176) whispers: black just takes
axeltiger(2176) whispers: and then on f4 he plays Qd6 and looks completely fine
LNO(2000) whispers: maybe Bb5 or f5
axeltiger(2176) whispers: on Be5?
LNO(2000) whispers: no
LNO(2000) whispers: after takes on e6
axeltiger(2176) whispers: which line are we discussing? the Be5 line?
LNO(2000) whispers: Be5 Nxe6
axeltiger(2176) whispers: Be5 Nxe6 Bxe6
axeltiger(2176) whispers: Bf5 just drops a piece in that line
axeltiger(2176) whispers: and Bb5 gives black the time to play Qd6, retaining the extra piece
LNO(2000) whispers: yes But b5
axeltiger(2176) whispers: ok
LNO(2000) whispers: hmm
Twikki(2007) whispers: I should wind up with the bishop pair if nothing else
axeltiger(2176) whispers: I don't like those lines for white
LNO(2000) whispers: no
LNO(2000) whispers: but also e5 seems fine
axeltiger(2176) whispers: what happens after ...e5 Nf5?
LNO(2000) whispers: Maybe Rg8
axeltiger(2176) whispers: and then Qh5 maybe?
LNO(2000) whispers: yes this is complex 12...Nxd4 (16:50)
LNO(2000) whispers: ok 13.cxd4 (0:17) Bd7 (0:05)
LNO(2000) whispers: very natural choice
axeltiger(2176) whispers: should be somewhat ok for black
axeltiger(2176) whispers: but I'm a bit worried about Bf5 here
LNO(2000) whispers: yes
axeltiger(2176) whispers: but maybe then just Bxb4?
alexmontes(1978) whispers: Bd2 is a must.... whenever you can have 8 pieces in the same column, you should play it. Both players should get a point for that
LNO(2000) whispers: and the K isbt 100 % secure in the centre
LNO(2000) whispers: thats a bit creepy
axeltiger(2176) whispers: :D
axeltiger(2176) whispers: Bd2 actually looks like an ok move here
LNO(2000) whispers: I can easily see a B on h6 and a check on the b5 diagonal
axeltiger(2176) whispers: black has a knight on f7 though
LNO(2000) whispers: just guarding and developng at the same time? can it be wrong? 14.Bd2 (8:34)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: not only is the d file completely filled, it's also symmetrically filled!
LNO(2000) whispers: yes
LNO(2000) whispers: it happens sometimes, but its very rare
Twikki(2007) whispers: I've been trying to sac a pawn all game, might get to do it soon 14...O-O (8:04)
Introspection(1750) whispers: Oh my, just noticed Black's clock
LNO(2000) whispers: yes
Introspection(1750) whispers: And fairly early in the game
LNO(2000) whispers: hopefully black will get some additional time by some straightforward moves
axeltiger(2176) whispers: Bxh7
Introspection(1750) whispers: Yeh, I guess I' not the only one to urn a bunch of time on early moves.
axeltiger(2176) whispers: it's interesting
Introspection(1750) whispers: * burn 15.Nc3 (10:40)
Twikki(2007) whispers: don't see anything forcing yet
LNO(2000) whispers: i think they are correct in using their time 15...f5 (2:05) 16.Ne2 (0:10) Qf6 (1:03)
LNO(2000) whispers: the situation settled down from hypercritical to more safe for black
LNO(2000) whispers: Both 15 Qh5 or 15 Bxh7
LNO(2000) whispers: not or.. and 17.Rb1 (3:14) Kh8 (0:25) 18.f4 (4:41) Rg8 (0:56) 19.Be3 (1:12) Rg6 (1:37)
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: Go Gubbengraa!
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: Go Vikings!
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: Zulu! 20.Qd2 (1:01)
Introspection(1750) whispers: Marek did you notice how much time these players used? :-p
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: yes 20...Rag8 (0:26) 21.g3 (0:01)
Introspection(1750) whispers: ok
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: why You ask me, Rabbit?
Introspection(1750) whispers: Because you had like 57 minutes on your clock last tl game 21...Qh4 (1:15) 22.Kg2 (0:07)
Introspection(1750) whispers: But it is nice to have plenty of time for endgame ;-)
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: :) 22...Rh6 (1:48) 23.Rh1 (0:07) Qh3+ (1:10) 24.Kf2 (0:06) Qg4 (0:37)
milpat(1989) whispers: Ng1-f3-e5 25.Rbg1 (1:13)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: that was the most straightforward plan 25...Rh3 (1:02)
milpat(1989) whispers: take on e5 would just help the miserable piece on e3
Introspection(1750) whispers: I like straightforward plans when i can find htem.
Introspection(1750) whispers: them
axeltiger(2176) whispers: black goes all in here
axeltiger(2176) whispers: now white can play Nc1 I think 26.Rg2 (1:39)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: this also looks pretty god
axeltiger(2176) whispers: good* 26...Nh6 (0:43)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: oh 27.Ng1 (0:11)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: now Ng1 wins the exchange 27...Qh5 (2:22)
milpat(1989) whispers: Ng4 will be quite a piece
milpat(1989) whispers: so Be2
Introspection(1750) whispers: can he take on h3?
axeltiger(2176) whispers: sure, it looks nice, but does the knight really threaten that much on g4?
axeltiger(2176) whispers: just play Nxh3, and on Ng4+ we play Kg1 28.Be2 (1:34)
Introspection(1750) whispers: yes taht sounds reasonable
axeltiger(2176) whispers: but this is also fine
Introspection(1750) whispers: no more N checks 28...Ng4+ (0:43)
milpat(1989) whispers: BxNg4 left white with the bad bishop
Introspection(1750) whispers: profylactic... i like I would play
milpat(1989) whispers: leaves* 29.Bxg4 (0:16)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: now white doesn't even have to worry about needing to activate a horrible rook 29...fxg4 (0:11)
milpat(1989) whispers: this might relief Be3
axeltiger(2176) whispers: not sure what white is thinking about here 30.a3 (3:15)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: ok
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: Axel!
axeltiger(2176) whispers: hi marek 30...Qf5 (0:40) 31.Nxh3 (0:17) gxh3 (0:03) 32.Rgg1 (0:05) Bb5 (0:15)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: I thought Qe4 was the plan there
axeltiger(2176) whispers: this is really surprising 33.Rd1 (0:47) Qe4 (1:33) 34.Rhg1 (0:18) Rc8 (1:07)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: Rc1 looks mandatory here 35.Rc1 (1:13)
milpat(1989) whispers: Rc4 35...Bc4 (0:18)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: g4 here?
milpat(1989) whispers: Bd6 might like it 36.Qc2 (0:45)
milpat(1989) whispers: g4 Rf8 say
axeltiger(2176) whispers: ok, so this is probably simpler
axeltiger(2176) whispers: but g4 was more exciting for the audience ;)
Introspection(1750) whispers: trades now?
Introspection(1750) whispers: :-)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: looks like it
milpat(1989) whispers: black's Q better, he'd like to keep it
milpat(1989) whispers: dont see how tho :P 36...a5 (2:20)
milpat(1989) whispers: mmm 37.Qxe4 (0:18) dxe4 (0:03)
milpat(1989) whispers: clock is getting him
alexmontes(1978) whispers: Qg6 to undouble the h pawns could have been better 38.Bd2 (0:22)
Introspection(1750) whispers: Yeh no fun to play with such short clock
milpat(1989) whispers: was thinking Qf5
milpat(1989) whispers: to keep Be3 suckin
axeltiger(2176) whispers: this looks tough for black regardless
Introspection(1750) whispers: suckin?
alexmontes(1978) whispers: it looks very drawish now 38...h5 (1:03)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: ke3 now, and I'd say that white wins almost surely
Introspection(1750) whispers: Hopefully not as we need this win
Introspection(1750) whispers: Lets see if he plays it 39.Ke3 (0:54)
Introspection(1750) whispers: Voila!
LNO(2000) whispers: e4 falls
axeltiger(2176) whispers: it looks very natural, so I'm not really surprised that he found it
LNO(2000) whispers: nothing to do 39...b5 (0:35) 40.Ra1 (2:03) a4 (0:04)
LNO(2000) whispers: this was starge
axeltiger(2176) whispers: this is mysterious
LNO(2000) whispers: Kxe4 begged to be played'
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: like mysterious moves?
axeltiger(2176) whispers: yes
LNO(2000) whispers: well
alexmontes(1978) whispers: it can still be played
axeltiger(2176) whispers: I guess Rac1 back is playable here 41.Rac1 (1:36) Rf8 (0:10)
LNO(2000) whispers: hmm he was deeper than we :) 42.Kxe4 (0:51)
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: Bd5+? 42...Bd5+ (1:04)
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: yes 43.Kd3 (0:09)
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: Bc4+? 43...Bg2 (0:39)
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: oh
axeltiger(2176) whispers: Re1 looks good here 44.Rge1 (0:43) Bd5 (0:09) 45.Rf1 (1:58)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: oh
alexmontes(1978) whispers: what? 45...Kh7 (0:12)
alexmontes(1978) whispers: what?
axeltiger(2176) whispers: Bc4 was an option, but I guess white is still winning being two pawns up in the end
axeltiger(2176) whispers: I guess white wants to play Rf2 here
alexmontes(1978) whispers: if I were white I would go for Rc3 and Rfc1, and when he blocks with Bc4 sac the exchange 46.f5 (1:16)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: this seems inprecise
axeltiger(2176) whispers: now Bc4+ is a lot stronger than it was one move ago
axeltiger(2176) whispers: had white played Rf2 before pushing f5, then this would've been an ok plan
LNO(2000) whispers: anyway Bc4 now.. or never
Twikki(2007) whispers: meh missed a few ideas before playing that 46...exf5 (3:18)
LNO(2000) whispers: Bc4 was a chance 47.Bf4 (0:44) Be4+ (0:43) 48.Ke3 (0:16)
axeltiger(2176) whispers: this is good enough no
axeltiger(2176) whispers: now* 48...Bxf4+ (0:50) 49.Kxf4 (0:13) Kg6 (0:13)
Introspection(1750) whispers: surely a trade favors White?
axeltiger(2176) whispers: yes, this is winning now
mcstorytaller(1723) whispers: :(
Introspection(1750) whispers: and musch simpler I iman imagine 50.Rc5 (0:38)
LNO(2000) whispers: its never simple though
LNO(2000) whispers: look how much time they spent
Introspection(1750) whispers: No always harder than it looks as always
LNO(2000) whispers: yes
Introspection(1750) whispers: Yes indeed
LNO(2000) whispers: but now it looks easy
Introspection(1750) whispers: They really maximized thier time usage here
Introspection(1750) whispers: Did not waste any 50...Re8 (2:20) 51.Re1 (1:08) gubbengraa forfeits on time 1-0

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