xandor(2057) vs. twikki(2032) 1/2-1/2
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smallblackcat(2215) whispers: intending to sac the e5-pawn perhaps? ;) 8.e4 (1:27)
herrahuu(1847) whispers: i guess it is pretty ordinary kings indian setting?
herrahuu(1847) whispers: :) 8...exd4 (0:26)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: pretty well 9.Nxd4 (0:21) Re8 (0:04)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: twikki is taking pawns rather than sacrificing them! he should be thrown out of the coffee house!
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: in all seriousness, he's playing this like a sane person
herrahuu(1847) whispers: yup :)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: but this system as a whole has the annoying point that black pretty much has to play c6 at some point, and then d6 is a bit of a tender spot 10.Re1 (2:02)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: otherwise, black is very comfortable 10...a6 (0:56) 11.h3 (1:23)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: c6, Qc7 is a typical pattern now 11...Rb8 (0:51)
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: hmmn..... seems lil hedgehog-ish
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: which is good...
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: :-) 12.Be3 (0:29) c5 (0:31)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: ah, this is more twikkish
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: wow... this commits
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: hehehe
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: similar to Gallagher's system
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: but I think that commits to c5 even sooner
Twikki(2032) whispers: standard Gallagher variation
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: oh well, I stand corrected :P
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: this is a good mix of coffee house nonsense and actual sound opening theory
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: as the very best lines often are LOL
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: by best, i mean, most exciting and difficult to meet, not necessarily those that would try carlson
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: yeah I wouldn't try to out-complicate carlsen
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: neative
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: negative
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: but anybody under 2500 is fair game to try and make game edgey and see if they flinch 13.Nde2 (3:28)
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: :p
Twikki(2032) whispers: ok that's a little odd
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: i mean d6 is weak and d5 is hole but white pieces dont seem especially coordinated at present
pchesso(1917) whispers: Nf4-d5 the idea maybe
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: black always has Nb6 to counter dbl N's
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: yeah that's basically the point of the variation, black accepts some long-term structural disadvantages to gain activity and make white's pieces awkward
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: still wide options on pawns too
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: b5 adv is ready alrady for black :P
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: i deem a b5-c5 duo more useful and less exposing than whites possible f4-e4
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: I wouldn't go that far, but yeah b5 is usually the idea
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: just a question of whether you play something like Ne5 first
pchesso(1917) whispers: d6 hangs, i would not give it up so soon
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: I claim expertise on this opening, having played this variation once before, in a blitz game, 6 years ago :P
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: ne5-->c6
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: l
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: m
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: a
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: o 13...Ne5 (5:40)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: and I lost that one :P
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: f4 boldly stirs pot
Psycho(1958) whispers: probably want to guard c4 first though
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: well as you said, knight is happy to drop back to c6 14.b3 (0:47)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: that too :P
pchesso(1917) whispers: c4 hangs - you seem to be giving pawns freely today shiva :)
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: f4 nc6 e5 dxe5 qxq rxr fxe was what i thought :P 14...b5 (1:13)
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: today? i am a pawn dispensary usually
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: take two they are small is my policy 15.cxb5 (1:51)
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: wait my line was total cr@@@p for black tho hehehe
Psycho(1958) whispers: you can specify how they're taken of course, orally or the other route ;)
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: via ... pony express>>>
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: ?? 15...axb5 (0:58)
Psycho(1958) whispers: as a suppository
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: the subtext of this conversation is filthy...
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: i didn'y even know ponies for stuffed up
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: well, no longer subtext ;)
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: &got 16.Rc1 (0:50)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: Nf4 b4 Nd5 Nxd5 Nxd5 would be typical
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: but maybe black had a tactical possibility there...Bxh3 Bxh3 Nf3+ K moves Nxe1 and the Ra1 is also hanging
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: deep
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: ah nvm, Nf3+ wasn't possible after the Ne2 moved to f4 and then d5
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: think long, think wrong
Psycho(1958) whispers: of the knight is on f4 can't it take on h3 instead of the bishop
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: g.p. 16...b4 (2:02)
Psycho(1958) whispers: *if
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: well in my line it had moved on to d5, but then the Q held f3 anyway
Psycho(1958) whispers: ah nvm
Psycho(1958) whispers: thought the nd5 referrred to the other knight on c3
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: i like this tho 17.Nd5 (1:03)
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: stops him from dbl dipping N maybe
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: for whom? 17...Nxd5 (0:23)
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: i rooting for twikki :-)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: well then, I agree
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: hehe...
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: as I think Qxd5 Be6 gives black a very nice position
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: and i also like exd5 for long term
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: but white may yet stabilise things
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: time to go to work on a file
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: just looks much more fun to be black
pchesso(1917) whispers: exd5 Ba6 threatens Nd3
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: a2 awkward to protect whilst dark bishop eyes the corne
shivaroxxx(1860) whispers: r
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: yeah I don't think exd5 has much to recommend it
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: closes off that nice square, and still gives black some counterplay 18.Qxd5 (2:56)
pchesso(1917) whispers: Bb7 Qd1 Ba6 still threatens Nd3
Twikki(2032) whispers: the main question now is where to put the lsb
Twikki(2032) whispers: there is Be6 Qd2 Bxh3 to consider
herrahuu(1847) whispers: 7 minutes to reach this position.
herrahuu(1847) whispers: wow.
herrahuu(1847) whispers: :D
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: not really 7 minutes...with increment they have effectively had about 19 minutes each
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: so if this were a 15 0 game, they'd both have forfeited already
herrahuu(1847) whispers: yup.
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: that Bxh3 idea is good to remember, comes up quite a lot
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: I guess Ba6 trying for Nd3 also has merit
pchesso(1917) whispers: Bb7 first, driving back the queen
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: maybe...Bb7 Qd2 Ba6 Nf4 g5 Nd5 Nd3 Bxg5 looks rather unclear to me
Twikki(2032) whispers: don't like my pawns after the exchanges
pchesso(1917) whispers: after g5 there is also Nh5 attacking the Bg7. quite a long line
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: yeah that looks good too
pchesso(1917) whispers: ah, your Bxg5 attacks the queen
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: right, but that can be played after Nh5 too
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: though I guess maybe f6
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: seems like every single light square is weak there, but somehow white can't take advantage 18...Be6 (11:53)
Twikki(2032) whispers: found another idea I like better 19.Qd1 (1:07)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: xandor spots the threat, though it sounds like twikki wasn't entirely happy with winning h3
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: I guess his point was that Qd2 Bxh3 f4 Bxg2 Kxg2 Nc6 leaves black a bit passive
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: hard to advance the pawns there 19...c4 (1:38)
Twikki(2032) whispers: may be unsound but it's interesting
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: seems logical to me, exposes a2 further
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: I guess white can consider Nf4
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: might just stop things in time 20.Nf4 (2:24) c3 (4:48) 21.Nxe6 (0:16) fxe6 (0:05) 22.f4 (0:11) Nf7 (0:05) 23.Qd3 (0:48) Qa5 (1:21) 24.Rc2 (0:12) Qb5 (1:18) 25.Qd1 (1:20) Red8 (0:31)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: guessing we'll see d5 e5 soon, which is rather static and dull
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: maybe black should play e5 first and then d5 26.Bf1 (1:49) Qb7 (0:16) 27.Bg2 (0:17) Qb5 (0:07) 28.Bf1 (1:40) Qb7 (0:07) 29.Qf3 (1:05) d5 (2:12) 30.exd5 (5:04) exd5 (1:08)
herrahuu(1847) whispers: this looks like a critical position 31.Bd3 (1:55)
herrahuu(1847) whispers: is there attack?? wow.
zitterbart(1903) whispers: maybe white could try something with Bc5 and Re7
zitterbart(1903) whispers: but has to be well planned 31...d4 (5:31) 32.Qxb7 (1:06) Rxb7 (0:05)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: hmm I was expecting Be4 33.Bf2 (0:24)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: can't play it here cos of d3, but prior to the Q exchange
TwilightShifter(1817) whispers: I expect it too
zitterbart(1903) whispers: does be4 work or is there too much pressure on the B?
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: well now I have a hard time believing white can do better than draw 33...Bf6 (1:06)
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: hmm, I guess 32 Be4 Qa6 was a problem
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: with d3 coming
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: anyway black has obvious advantages here, but white's control of the light squares might just be enough to hold
herrahuu(1847) whispers: but that's not enough since needs the win :) 34.Kg2 (1:42)
herrahuu(1847) whispers: i agree with your evaluation...
smallblackcat(2215) whispers: twikki has played this very well, just hasn't given white opportunities
herrahuu(1847) whispers: yeah
zitterbart(1903) whispers: i think black should give white some passed pawns to make it fair and square 34...Nd6 (3:02)
herrahuu(1847) whispers: Re6 is not totally crazy
herrahuu(1847) whispers: Kf7 Rx Kx Bxd4 35.g4 (3:14)
herrahuu(1847) whispers: Nb5!? 35...Kf7 (0:33)
zitterbart(1903) whispers: hard to find a white plan here 36.Kf3 (0:26)
TwilightShifter(1817) whispers: Possibly white can try to send a king to hold black pawns and with rooks try to attack kingside, but it is too general 36...Ra7 (1:16) 37.Bg3 (2:06) Ra5 (3:31) 38.Ree2 (1:49)
herrahuu(1847) whispers: komodo 9.3 gives hotness of 7 out of 10 :D
zitterbart(1903) whispers: what is hotness? how well you can blunder?
TwilightShifter(1817) whispers: What does it mean?
herrahuu(1847) whispers: i presume it is dynamics in the position or so
herrahuu(1847) whispers: i felt electricity on my skin so i had to check it ;) 38...Rd7 (1:01)
zitterbart(1903) whispers: its the mean temperature of the pieces Twikki offers a draw.
herrahuu(1847) whispers: :D xandor accepts the draw request. Game drawn by mutual agreement 1/2-1/2
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