khokhlova(2410) vs. tlcommunity(0) *
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schachbjm(2243) whispers: hi all
herrahuu(1686) whispers: c6 ;)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: 1... Nf6
milpat(2071) whispers: d5
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: d4
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: I mean d5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: oh no, another Reti :(
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nc6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: nah
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Nf6
ghambo(2010) whispers: hi all
ghambo(2010) whispers: and gl
herrahuu(1686) whispers: it could transpose for whatever
milpat(2071) whispers: i prefer ur d4 though Beth :) yo
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: :D
milpat(2071) whispers: oh, we have Ismir!!
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: c4 g3 she will play
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: for sure
pchesso(1915) whispers: hi all, i'll repeat the rules shortly:
pchesso(1915) whispers: Rules: 1. Use "whisper", not "kibitz". 2. Show respect to everyone, no matter their rating. 3. Assistance from Analysisbot, engines, books etc. is not allowed.
ghambo(2010) whispers: if we talk about transposition
herrahuu(1686) whispers: and here we can use time :)
ghambo(2010) whispers: b6
ghambo(2010) whispers: it can transpise in everithing too
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I like Nf3 b6 g3 Bb7 Bg2 g5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: KILLKILLKILL
ghambo(2010) whispers: but not everybody know owens defence
ghambo(2010) whispers: and ecause lets play mine lines
herrahuu(1686) whispers: hyper. hmh. i thought there was some suspicious about your name ;) :P :)
pchesso(1915) whispers: all right, discuss for like 2 minutes, then we'll vote
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: well you have for 10 minutes or so, i must leave soon
milpat(2071) whispers: :(
ghambo(2010) whispers: why are u shure about g3?
ghambo(2010) whispers: nimzo?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: so maybe we should play blitz ..on that way maybe we have most chance to win :)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: khokhlova plays g3 in such positions frequently
schachbjm(2243) whispers: no, we ll use our time
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: she played blind fold that combination
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: so that she knows best
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: maybe we should actually synergize our strengths
herrahuu(1686) whispers: c6 we can transpose to slav or caro settings ;)
ghambo(2010) whispers: yes i know
ghambo(2010) whispers: vs iudha yes?
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: discuss who knows which openings from here and so forth
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: yes
ghambo(2010) whispers: shes real WGM
pchesso(1915) whispers: ok, voting starts in 15 seconds
crazyblue(2128) whispers: i vote 1. c6
milpat(2071) whispers: d5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: 1... Nc6
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Nf6
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: d5
ghambo(2010) whispers: d5 better
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: 1.... Nf6
ghambo(2010) whispers: lets play classcal game
pchesso(1915) whispers: vote NOW
milpat(2071) whispers: d5
herrahuu(1686) whispers: c6
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: d5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nc6
Azubuike(1621) whispers: d5
ghambo(2010) whispers: ok opening doesnot matter
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: ...Nf6
pchesso(1915) whispers: will move in 10 seconds
milpat(2071) whispers: u play symethrical then run my master? 1...d5 (0:00)
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: theres a majority for d5 anyway
herrahuu(1686) whispers: g3 ...
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yeah
milpat(2071) whispers: c4 d4
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: no, that's not good
herrahuu(1686) whispers: soon we should talk setups as mentioned earlier
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: i usually play c4 dxc4
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I suggest we go for a safe formation. g6, Bg7, Nf6, Nbd7 etc
schachbjm(2243) whispers: she ll go for 2.g3 probably
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: another possibility is Bg4 straight away. annoys the hell out of Reti players 2.c4 (1:37)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yaya
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: nvm
pchesso(1915) whispers: discuss NOW
Khokhlova(2410) whispers: Sorry for take long, I am set up real board so not look screen long time
herrahuu(1686) whispers: c6 and we transpose to slav setups
pchesso(1915) whispers: (two minutes max.)
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: i think the main options are d4 dxc4 c6 and e6
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: as i told you c4 ..with g3
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: c6 is by far best IMO
schachbjm(2243) whispers: yes
milpat(2071) whispers: d4 is not so pleasant to play agaisnt
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: it's actually pretty easy to play against
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: as far as i am concerned they are all playable
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: dxc4 looks logical to me
schachbjm(2243) whispers: al of them are fine
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 20 seconds
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: my suggestion is c6 - Nf6 - Bf5
herrahuu(1686) whispers: so which setup we want
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: London type formation
schachbjm(2243) whispers: taking the pawn is not most critical
ghambo(2010) whispers: what d4 does milpat?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: it is little bit stupid to play move if we don't know the setup
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: I like dxc4 but I will leave soon, so I will not intere with your voting.
ghambo(2010) whispers: it will become weakness
milpat(2071) whispers: gain space, is reversed benoni
ghambo(2010) whispers: hard to defend at 4th rank
pchesso(1915) whispers: vote NOW
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: c6
schachbjm(2243) whispers: c6
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: dxc4
crazyblue(2128) whispers: c6
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: c6
ghambo(2010) whispers: c6 or e6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: c6 wins!
milpat(2071) whispers: d4 2...c6 (3:00) 3.d4 (0:07)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: Nf6!?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: :)
pchesso(1915) whispers: discuss NOW please, 3 minutes max.
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: well, just follow any GM games
ghambo(2010) whispers: Nf6!
herrahuu(1686) whispers: :D
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: they are all Slav nowadays anyway
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: just Nf6
ghambo(2010) whispers: i respect u herrahuu
herrahuu(1686) whispers: lol
ghambo(2010) whispers: and ur youtube videos
ghambo(2010) whispers: ;)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: with ukulele? :)
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: pchess, I suggest we don't spend this much time on simple moves like this one
ghambo(2010) whispers: ||*(
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: I like they possible shenanigans with e6 here
ghambo(2010) whispers: nf6
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Nf6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: thanks ghambo. you really enligtened with that comment. :)
pchesso(1915) whispers: vote NOW
ghambo(2010) whispers: developing knight
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nf6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yeah. we can go Nf6.
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: but that does require the intention to play the semi-slav
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: bf5
ghambo(2010) whispers: :)
crazyblue(2128) whispers: Nf6 my vote
herrahuu(1686) whispers: i don't see why not e6 or Bf5 both are possible, no?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: bf5 my vote
ghambo(2010) whispers: e6 is closing bishop
herrahuu(1686) whispers: sheez
pchesso(1915) whispers: 3 Nf6, 1 Bf5 - any other?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Nf6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: this is wote!
herrahuu(1686) whispers: vote!
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: google semi-slav please 3...Nf6 (3:04) 4.Nc3 (0:05)
ghambo(2010) whispers: now it become slav defence
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: ok now its decision time
herrahuu(1686) whispers: aha i thought e6 is semi and Bf5 semi
schachbjm(2243) whispers: e6 is the main move here
herrahuu(1686) whispers: classic, sry
schachbjm(2243) whispers: so, i vote for it
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: e6 a6 or dxc4
herrahuu(1686) whispers: i only play Bf5 but i don't know it that well...
herrahuu(1686) whispers: dx sry
crazyblue(2128) whispers: i know and play e6 only. never saw Bf5, so i cant discuss much here
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yeah
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: i like Bf5
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: Bf5 here is a bad move
herrahuu(1686) whispers: dx first
schachbjm(2243) whispers: ismirdochegal s suggestions are the most common moves on high level chess
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in a minute
herrahuu(1686) whispers: if schach knows e6
schachbjm(2243) whispers: bf5 is totally rare here and it is not supposed to be good for black
herrahuu(1686) whispers: we should go there
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: probably ...
schachbjm(2243) whispers: we are still in main line theory
herrahuu(1686) whispers: who else knows this position?
ghambo(2010) whispers: bf5 nh4
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: If you got something knowing e6 well among you, thats probably a good way to go
ghambo(2010) whispers: in future loosing tempo
ghambo(2010) whispers: nimzo
floare(1917) whispers: Is TLCommunity a player or a team? If team, where are the rating points? Because I don't see them
pchesso(1915) whispers: i play dxc4 here, but i'll keep out of voting for now
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: agree
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yeah Bf5 is no move, sorry about that
ghambo(2010) whispers: e6
schachbjm(2243) whispers: teams means assistance, means oly unrated
ghambo(2010) whispers: and its semi-slav
ghambo(2010) whispers: and tha we can push at Q side
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE please.
ghambo(2010) whispers: e6
schachbjm(2243) whispers: e6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: this is definite decision
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: e6
crazyblue(2128) whispers: e6
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: e6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: e6
floare(1917) whispers: Bf5 4...e6 (3:21)
ghambo(2010) whispers: hi Florin
ghambo(2010) whispers: how are u?
floare(1917) whispers: hi
floare(1917) whispers: I'm fine
herrahuu(1686) whispers: now i listen and learn :) 5.e3 (0:19)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. 3 minutes)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: e3 is main move, Nbd7 is the most sensible reply
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: so Be7 ..we dont need to vote for this move or...
ghambo(2010) whispers: Nbd7
crazyblue(2128) whispers: Nbd7 is the only move i know too
herrahuu(1686) whispers: we just wait with lsb?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: afterwards, white has the option to either play Bd3 or Qc2
herrahuu(1686) whispers: is there some idea with it?
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: you need to vote, nbd7 is standard, some people also play bd6 here
ghambo(2010) whispers: and well take at c
ghambo(2010) whispers: white already develops
ghambo(2010) whispers: and looses tempo with bishop
Ismirdochegal(2238) whispers: you only take on c4, if Bd3 is played
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Bd6 later is more accurate
ghambo(2010) whispers: yup)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yup
schachbjm(2243) whispers: yes
herrahuu(1686) whispers: agreed
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: so Be7 or Nbd7
herrahuu(1686) whispers: let's just go Nbd7
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well she is on ICC worming up with bullet lol
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: :))
ghambo(2010) whispers: Nbd7
schachbjm(2243) whispers: vote Nbd7
ghambo(2010) whispers: really?
crazyblue(2128) whispers: Nbd7 my vote
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 20 seconds
crazyblue(2128) whispers: ok
ghambo(2010) whispers: Nbd7
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Nbd7
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: be7
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE please.
ghambo(2010) whispers: hi crazyblue
crazyblue(2128) whispers: hi
ghambo(2010) whispers: wanna play after this?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: vote?
ghambo(2010) whispers: Nbd7
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: ok Nbd7
pchesso(1915) whispers: 4x Nbd7, 1 Be7 - anyone else?
ghambo(2010) whispers: well be in zeitnot 5...Nbd7 (4:04)
ghambo(2010) whispers: if we play like this
ghambo(2010) whispers: ;) 6.Qc2 (0:06)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Bd6
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. 3 minutes)
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: bulletmouse?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: if there is no other ideas can we just go there?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: misstype
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Bd6 developing the bishop and preparing is the correct text move here
ghambo(2010) whispers: yup
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: agree
pchesso(1915) whispers: any other opinions?
ghambo(2010) whispers: Bd6
schachbjm(2243) whispers: 6... b6 is played rarely, too, if i remember correctly
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
schachbjm(2243) whispers: nevertheless, Bd6 is the total mainmove, so i ll go for it
ghambo(2010) whispers: well have time for it schac
ghambo(2010) whispers: after Bd6
pchesso(1915) whispers: 3 Bd6 - anyone else?
ghambo(2010) whispers: we must wait B develop to take at c4
ghambo(2010) whispers: Bd6 6...Bd6 (2:31) 7.Bd3 (0:08)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. 3 minutes)
ghambo(2010) whispers: now take
schachbjm(2243) whispers: simply castle kingside here
schachbjm(2243) whispers: (mainmove)
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: I agree
ghambo(2010) whispers: yes both are good
schachbjm(2243) whispers: it is the anti-meran variaition
herrahuu(1686) whispers: what's the difference?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well yes what else
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: 0-0
ghambo(2010) whispers: bur we can Dxc
ghambo(2010) whispers: and than b5
ghambo(2010) whispers: ok buddys must go
ghambo(2010) whispers: be here in 15
schachbjm(2243) whispers: dxc4 Bxc4 O-O O-O b5 is seen, too
schachbjm(2243) whispers: nevertheless, i would like to stick to well known lines
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 20 seconds
ghambo(2010) whispers: i hope at that time game will be interesting
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
herrahuu(1686) whispers: castles
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: 0-0
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: O-O
schachbjm(2243) whispers: castling 7...O-O (2:42) 8.O-O (0:07)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. 3 minutes)
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: is Re8 a move here?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: dxc and b5?
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: maybe b6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: well we have two breaks :)
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: does one attempt to play e5 in this type of positions?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: i'd say Re8 is a move but look where my ideas got me
herrahuu(1686) whispers: i don't know :)
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: b6 ?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: yes maybe that b6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: b6 c5 coming seems fine
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: is good move
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: or we just take on c4v and go b5 next
crazyblue(2128) whispers: can we do dxc? or is this out because of Qc2?
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 30 seconds
schachbjm(2243) whispers: dxc4 is the mainmove, e5 is playable
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: dxc is most natural ....
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
schachbjm(2243) whispers: i would go for dxc
crazyblue(2128) whispers: dxc4 then
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: but b6 looks nice
herrahuu(1686) whispers: i follow schach so dx
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: ok dxc 8...dxc4 (3:21) 9.Bxc4 (0:07)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. 3 minutes)
KayVee(1604) whispers: hello
pchesso(1915) whispers: hello KayVee
herrahuu(1686) whispers: hiya
schachbjm(2243) whispers: b5 is a move here, not sure whether it is the main move
crazyblue(2128) whispers: now i play b5 followed by a6, in my own games
schachbjm(2243) whispers: hi
schachbjm(2243) whispers: ok, then let us go for it
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: b5 looks ok
KayVee(1604) whispers: b5 looks good
schachbjm(2243) whispers: after b5, we can fianchetto our LSB with Bb7, too
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 10 seconds
crazyblue(2128) whispers: yes
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: b5
herrahuu(1686) whispers: b5
schachbjm(2243) whispers: b5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: b5 9...b5 (1:49)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: nice to have crazy on the bandwagon 10.Bd3 (0:12)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. 3 minutes)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: who is still familiar with this position?
ghambo(2010) whispers: I
ghambo(2010) whispers: :D
herrahuu(1686) whispers: khokholova ;)
milpat(2071) whispers: lol
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: dont lie!
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: :)
crazyblue(2128) whispers: me except for Qc2 i often played this
ghambo(2010) whispers: what lie buddy
ghambo(2010) whispers: its mine line
crazyblue(2128) whispers: as black i.e.
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: kidding
ghambo(2010) whispers: ;)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: lol
milpat(2071) whispers: have to watch for e4-e5 coming i presume
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: you are ours little GM on fics
herrahuu(1686) whispers: so nobody has moves :D
crazyblue(2128) whispers: i play a6 now to prepare c5
ghambo(2010) whispers: no buddy
ghambo(2010) whispers: gm is schac
ghambo(2010) whispers: his kikking me every time
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: no he is super GM :)
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: yeah, that looks like a nice idea to me
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: a6
ghambo(2010) whispers: his tactics is great
schachbjm(2243) whispers: wait
schachbjm(2243) whispers: what is about a6 Ne4
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 40 seconds
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: just Bb7
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: indeed :)
ghambo(2010) whispers: Ne4?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: it's also the book move
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: as far as I can remember
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Bb7
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: :)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: yes
crazyblue(2128) whispers: oh yeah, our bs bishop is supposed to be on e7 in my line :)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: think so too
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Bb7
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: Bb7
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Bb7
ghambo(2010) whispers: maybe batter Bb7 and than push c?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: the advantage of Bb7 is that we can take the knight after Ne4 and we do not have to worry about our c6-pawn
schachbjm(2243) whispers: furthermore, developement cannot be wrong here
ghambo(2010) whispers: and ur bishop will have great position 10...Bb7 (4:07)
crazyblue(2128) whispers: we cant push c without playing a6
schachbjm(2243) whispers: yes
milpat(2071) whispers: so e4 is nothing?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: we counter e4 with e5
crazyblue(2128) whispers: if Ne4 we cant capture, because bishop will do double attack on h7 and c6
schachbjm(2243) whispers: yes
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: we can, blue
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nxe4 Bxe4 Nf6 Bxc6 Rc8
crazyblue(2128) whispers: yeah? but queen is on c6 too
crazyblue(2128) whispers: ahh
schachbjm(2243) whispers: no
crazyblue(2128) whispers: good
schachbjm(2243) whispers: there is Rc8 against Bxc6 winning a piece
ghambo(2010) whispers: yup
herrahuu(1686) whispers: i feel we are in good hands :)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: just a general question: Do we wanna have our queen on c7 or e7?
ghambo(2010) whispers: its only opening
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: yes you have heavy artillery in me and especially schach ;)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: ty
ghambo(2010) whispers: i think shes in comfort zone too
ghambo(2010) whispers: shes WGM
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: since when?
ghambo(2010) whispers: :)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: if we last 40 moves i'm not sure if i buy everyone round but that'll be great
ghambo(2010) whispers: dont know but sh is
crazyblue(2128) whispers: i like the queen on b6, but after a6 and c5 have been played
schachbjm(2243) whispers: please take care about me. In my own tlcommunitygame i went wrong in the first non theoretical move 11.Rd1 (3:04)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. 3 minutes)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: there was question about queen
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Rd1 is a typical move, nevertheless now i am out of theory
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: about quuen i would like more on c7
schachbjm(2243) whispers: probably, we have a6 as crazy suggested, and Qc7 amd Qe7
ghambo(2010) whispers: Rc1 maybe?
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Qc7 to support c5 and have an eye on h2 perhaps
ghambo(2010) whispers: and than c5?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I think we start with a6
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: a6 lookd reasonable
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: or wait
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: :)
crazyblue(2128) whispers: if you dont like a6, we can try b4 followed by c5 maybe
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: perhaps Qc7 now
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: yes i like Qc7
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: a6 e4 e5 dxe5 Nxe5 Nxe5 Bxe5 Bxb5
ghambo(2010) whispers: no no
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: me too
schachbjm(2243) whispers: @crazy looks like a sensible attempt
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 30 seconds
ghambo(2010) whispers: crazy told best
ghambo(2010) whispers: b4 followed by c5
schachbjm(2243) whispers: pchesso: can we wait for 1 or 2 mins
pchesso(1915) whispers: yes
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Qc7
schachbjm(2243) whispers: let us briefly discuss each option
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: b4 looks a tad too ambitious
ghambo(2010) whispers: why
ghambo(2010) whispers: we can devend it by a5
ghambo(2010) whispers: and Rc8
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: b4 Na4, you can't push c5
ghambo(2010) whispers: aiming Q
schachbjm(2243) whispers: yes
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: yes to what?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: so, we have Rc8, Qe7, a6 and Qc7 and the ambitious b4?!
schachbjm(2243) whispers: yes, to Na4 is unpleasant
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I discard Qe7, doesn't seem like the Q has much to do there
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: rook is on d1, we should move our queen
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: that is a good reason
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: my vote is for Qc7
schachbjm(2243) whispers: do we have to worry about a e4 pawn push?
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 60 seconds
ghambo(2010) whispers: but rook isnot threat for now
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: with our pieces currently placed as they are, yes
schachbjm(2243) whispers: i vote Qc7
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: Qc7
crazyblue(2128) whispers: a6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: it seems like there is no e5 against e4 with the Q on d8
ghambo(2010) whispers: b4
Azubuike(1621) whispers: I vote Qc7
ghambo(2010) whispers: ok we can play b4 later
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: I vote Qc7
pchesso(1915) whispers: any more votes?
ghambo(2010) whispers: i accept
ghambo(2010) whispers: Qc7
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Qc7 11...Qc7 (5:49)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: i would delay a6 in order to keep the option to play a5 immediately if needed 12.Bd2 (0:08)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *5* minutes)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: you can't take your pawns back, can you? :)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: hmhmh
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Rac8?
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: pchesso!
pchesso(1915) whispers: hey mcstorytaller
milpat(2071) whispers: can c5 be an option?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: btw. we have to care about Nxb5 tactics
ghambo(2010) whispers: Ra or maybe better Rfc8?
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Racc8 or Rf d8
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: why noe now b4
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: not*
ghambo(2010) whispers: i think Rfc8 and Nx tactics doesnot works
schachbjm(2243) whispers: i would remain the rook on the a-file for the moment to keep more options
herrahuu(1686) whispers: isn't c5 critical idea? (i don't mean it should be played)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: nevertheless, Rac8 is a sensible and logical move
milpat(2071) whispers: a6 with c5 idea
crazyblue(2128) whispers: if we dont get to play c5, our position will suck i think. therefore my vote again is a6
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well if we want to go on win we must risk little miore
schachbjm(2243) whispers: after c5, b5 is hanging and white can take with tempo (Nxb5)
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: more*
ghambo(2010) whispers: but where put Rf after Rac8?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: a6 is fine here
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: or in other case this would be a dead draw like all games for now
schachbjm(2243) whispers: vote a6
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: I think we can expect Rac1
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 20 seconds
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: my vote b4
ghambo(2010) whispers: Rfc8 my vote
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
milpat(2071) whispers: a6
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: b4
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Rac8
crazyblue(2128) whispers: a6
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Rac8
schachbjm(2243) whispers: after b4, there might be an unpleasant well timed Na4-c5 maneuver
schachbjm(2243) whispers: a6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: a6 12...a6 (4:12) 13.b4 (0:11)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *5* minutes)
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: this is still confor zone for her
herrahuu(1686) whispers: it is little bit stupid but i thought so
schachbjm(2243) whispers: seems like she is still in theory
ghambo(2010) whispers: 11 secs
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: b4 looks strong to me, now that I see the move on the board
schachbjm(2243) whispers: b4 is strong here, preventing us from playing c5
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Re1
pchesso(1915) whispers: can we play for e5 instead?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: so we have e5 break?
milpat(2071) whispers: b4 shows how c5 was unpleasant for her
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: this is why we should have played Rac8
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well she stoped our b4:((
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: :((
milpat(2071) whispers: your b4 lol
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: :)
pchesso(1915) whispers: is a5 an idea?
ghambo(2010) whispers: because was better b4 instead castle
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: no that was too soon for b4
crazyblue(2128) whispers: what happens if Bxb4?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: well it asks a question
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Nx
ghambo(2010) whispers: shes controling centre now
crazyblue(2128) whispers: okay we cant do cx then
crazyblue(2128) whispers: thanks to our misplaced queen :D
ghambo(2010) whispers: :D
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Bxb4 Nxb5 axb5 Bxb4 and she gained the bishop pair with a pleasant position
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: perhaps a5?
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: queen is good, a6 was not so good I think
herrahuu(1686) whispers: we have nice influence on e5
schachbjm(2243) whispers: what about e5?
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: we will look a bit stupid if a5 now :D
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 2 minutes
ghambo(2010) whispers: yes a6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: no, I mean, we didn't lose much.
ghambo(2010) whispers: i give to a6 ? mark
schachbjm(2243) whispers: e5 dxc4?! Nxe5 Nxe5 Bxe5 is fine for us
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: this is not an open position where every tempo matters
milpat(2071) whispers: noone like Nb6?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: no one discussed Nb6 :)
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: yes
schachbjm(2243) whispers: probably, she will play Ne4 instead of exchanging some pieces
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nb6 e4
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 1 minute
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: maybe it is best move
ghambo(2010) whispers: what Nb6 will do?
milpat(2071) whispers: improve? :P
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Nb6 e4 looks unpleasant
herrahuu(1686) whispers: will give up some of e5
ghambo(2010) whispers: we can now play e4 as schac told without Nb6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: schach, what do you think about e5?
ghambo(2010) whispers: sorry e5
schachbjm(2243) whispers: double edged
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: looks safe enough to open up to me, if she decides to
milpat(2071) whispers: ok e4 is an answer
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well a5 seems now ..if we missed b4
schachbjm(2243) whispers: I am concerned about Ne4
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: hit on e4 and Nf6?
pchesso(1915) whispers: can we vote?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: i am not sure whether we can take it
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: please wait, pchess
schachbjm(2243) whispers: 2-3 mins pls
herrahuu(1686) whispers: it doesn't seem very healthy for our structure..
pchesso(1915) whispers: ok
herrahuu(1686) whispers: c6 is target already
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Nd5
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: is Rfc8 here good
herrahuu(1686) whispers: Nd5!?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: h7 pawn is lost
schachbjm(2243) whispers: my main question is: Is it sensible to prepare e5 with a rook move or do we simply give her a free move
milpat(2071) whispers: Nd5 u gice e4 so gently
milpat(2071) whispers: give*
pchesso(1915) whispers: let's please vote in 1 minute, ok?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: ok
ghambo(2010) whispers: maybe e5 is to agressive?
ghambo(2010) whispers: and more safe is a5?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: e5 Ne4 Nxe4 Bxe4 Nf6, what's her reply?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: how aggressive we want to be?
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Rac8?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: hyper: e5?
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 10 seconds
schachbjm(2243) whispers: wait 30 secs pls
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: yes need to calc
schachbjm(2243) whispers: hypers line is interesting
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: this is a very important move
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: she can take on e5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: dxe5 Bxe5 Nxe5 Qxe5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: c6 is under attack, can she take with bishop?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: did you check 16.dxe5 in your line after Nf6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: there is a pin on c8, so I guess not
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: checking now
schachbjm(2243) whispers: i ll be back later, i have to eat sth.
schachbjm(2243) whispers: good luck
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: nooooooo
herrahuu(1686) whispers: :)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: sry
ghambo(2010) whispers: bon apetit
herrahuu(1686) whispers: lol
schachbjm(2243) whispers: ty
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 30 seconds
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: don't leave us here alone
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: booby will replace you
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: welcome booby
schachbjm(2243) whispers: e5 is risky, nevertheless i would go for it
schachbjm(2243) whispers: in order to generate some play
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: hi
schachbjm(2243) whispers: no vote, just my opinion
milpat(2071) whispers: boob
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: e5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: well, let's hear the community
crazyblue(2128) whispers: sorry i must go, but i also vote e5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: e5
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: e5 13...e5 (12:07)
Inflames(1912) whispers: Kasimdzahnov played c5 in this position
floare(1917) whispers: Does TLCommunity have rating points?
pchesso(1915) whispers: no, these games are unrated
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: why does it matter?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: yes unlimited:))
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: they can not calculate
RoyRogersC(1864) whispers: no, not at this time
floare(1917) whispers: lol 14.Ne4 (0:54)
floare(1917) whispers: :)
pchesso(1915) whispers: btw, feel to start calculating :)
ghambo(2010) whispers: now what?
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Nx
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *5* minutes)
ghambo(2010) whispers: but after Nx
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: no discuss, just take
ghambo(2010) whispers: our c pawn become weakness
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: yes
ghambo(2010) whispers: its already is
herrahuu(1686) whispers: if take is automatic...
ghambo(2010) whispers: we cant defend it
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: yes
pchesso(1915) whispers: ok. DISCUSS please (max. *2* minutes)
ghambo(2010) whispers: take is bad move!
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: why ?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: no it's not
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Nxe4 Bxe4 Nf6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: take on e4, then assess our options
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: tell us ghambo why
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: is bad to take
ghambo(2010) whispers: maybe better to take on e4?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: that is the take :)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: no?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well if your best argiment is maybe then ....
ghambo(2010) whispers: beacuse bishpo is aiming to c6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: we can either do my line with Nf6, or just play g6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: threatening f5 and e4
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: take on e4, please
milpat(2071) whispers: wow, we made her think almost a whole minute!
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 30 seconds
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: and played 2 bullet games on ICC
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: she is still in book.
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: lol
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nxe4
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Nxe4 my vote
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: Nxe4
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Nxe4 14...Nxe4 (3:38) 15.Bxe4 (0:00)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *5* minutes)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: what are the options?
ghambo(2010) whispers: ex
herrahuu(1686) whispers: Nf6?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: g6 and Nf6
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: ex Nx and he has a nice attack on c6
ghambo(2010) whispers: why not ex/
ghambo(2010) whispers: ?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yup
ghambo(2010) whispers: she already has it
herrahuu(1686) whispers: Nf6 seems like a decent chess move
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: rule of thumb. always try to force your opponent to capture instead
herrahuu(1686) whispers: how?
ghambo(2010) whispers: Nf6 e5
herrahuu(1686) whispers: we have two defenders?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: nice to have you in the team, Beth
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 60 seconds
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: Nf6 looks ok as does Rac8 and Re8
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: *do
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Bethany, our h pawn is hanging
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: oh, you are right
ghambo(2010) whispers: oh sry herrahuh i dinot see it
herrahuu(1686) whispers: Nf6!!
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: Nf6 is probably the way to go then
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: yes, Nf6
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: Nf6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I dunno, I don't see anything decidedly wrong with Nf6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: @ghambo i was looking at it myself so..
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nf6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: Nf6
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: Nf6 15...Nf6 (3:49)
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Nf6
ghambo(2010) whispers: tts not classical play by us
ghambo(2010) whispers: in slav and senislav
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: dxe5 seems good for white
herrahuu(1686) whispers: well we got this c6 :)
ghambo(2010) whispers: we must pus c5 after bishop take
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: something went wrong for black
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: yes. schachbjm left
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: that's what went wrong
pchesso(1915) whispers: we must reckon with Rac8 here, and dxe5. anything else?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: and booby is too quiet
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: @Hyp :D
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: we stuck with bad c6
ghambo(2010) whispers: yes
ghambo(2010) whispers: and dont know when we went wrong
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: dxe5 nxe4 exd6 nxd6
herrahuu(1686) whispers: with e5?
ghambo(2010) whispers: do u agree with me bobby?
floare(1917) whispers: no
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: what was your line?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: let's try to focus on the present though
ghambo(2010) whispers: c must be pushed in slav defence
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: probably yes
herrahuu(1686) whispers: well i guess it is either e5 or c5
ghambo(2010) whispers: dont know but its not tipical position for black
ghambo(2010) whispers: we propably played est move
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: so allowing b4 by her was the mistake i guess
ghambo(2010) whispers: i wanted Rfc8 instead a6
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: but now we have to defend it
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: probably dxe5 will be played 16.dxe5 (4:08)
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: nxe4 or bxe5?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Bxe5
pchesso(1915) whispers: everyone agrees with Boob's line?
ghambo(2010) whispers: its forced move
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *3* minutes)
pchesso(1915) whispers: Bx or Nx?
ghambo(2010) whispers: Nx
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: Nx
Azubuike(1621) whispers: that's the only option...Bx
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I see more perspective after Bxe5
ghambo(2010) whispers: bacause c6 must be defended
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: Bx Nx Qx and we lose c pawn right?
ghambo(2010) whispers: yes
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Rac8
ghambo(2010) whispers: because Nx
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: forget about the goddamn c-pawn!! the bishop is pinned after Rac8
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: :)
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: can you calculate beyond ply 2, patzers?
ghambo(2010) whispers: be here in 5
ghambo(2010) whispers: wanna ==~
ghambo(2010) whispers: my vote is Nx
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yaya
herrahuu(1686) whispers: nice
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Bxe5 is great move I think
herrahuu(1686) whispers: good
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 60 seconds
floare(1917) whispers: Bx
herrahuu(1686) whispers: Bx
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: nxe4 and we get rid of her b-pair
ghambo(2010) whispers: Bx Nx Qx
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: yup
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Bx
ghambo(2010) whispers: and we loose pawn i think
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: bxe5 and she has the b-pair
ghambo(2010) whispers: and +
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Bxe4!
ghambo(2010) whispers: we are exchanging shes great bishop with Nx
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: *Bxe5! :)
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Bx
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: your ?
ghambo(2010) whispers: Nxe4!!
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: i'd rathergo nxe4
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: Nx
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Bxe5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Bxe5
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Bxe5
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: nXE4
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Bxe5 if Nxe5 we have Qxe5, puitting the question to the bishop
ghambo(2010) whispers: after Bx we are giving bishop at knight
herrahuu(1686) whispers: wow what a vote!
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Bxe5
pchesso(1915) whispers: 4x Nx, 2x Bx - any other votes?
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Bx
pchesso(1915) whispers: 4x Nx, 3x Bx - any other votes?
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: i think this si a crucial decision
ghambo(2010) whispers: and schac will choose Nx
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: come on, more Bxe5?
pchesso(1915) whispers: Azubuike once voting is enough
ghambo(2010) whispers: if hell be here for shure
ghambo(2010) whispers: ;)
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: MAYBE NOT ..MAYBE WE ARE ALREDY LOST :((
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Bxe5 is the way to go
pchesso(1915) whispers: 4x Nx, 3x Bx - moving in 10 seconds
herrahuu(1686) whispers: :)
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: draw!
herrahuu(1686) whispers: what a game!
Azubuike(1621) whispers: yes Max 16...Nxe4 (5:54)
Azubuike(1621) whispers: Bx was better 17.exd6 (0:37)
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: NO
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: THAT IS PAST
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: LETS PLAY
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: nxd6
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: Nxp
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: okay, I am leaving you.
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *3* minutes)
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: stay with us!
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: nothing to discuss, Nxp only move
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: ok Maguns
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: @ Hyper
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: unless you want to play a piece down
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: one Magnus willo remain :)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: so let's go
BethanyGrace(1760) whispers: Nxd6 looks right
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: You're on your own until the end / There was a choice but now it's gone / I said you wouldn't understand
pchesso(1915) whispers: so let's skip further discussions and vote?
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: why You wanna leave? @ Hyper
Azubuike(1621) whispers: supported at hypermagnus
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: nxd6
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: Nxd6
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: go
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: hi Azubuike!
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: only move 17...Nxd6 (2:09)
floare(1917) whispers: nxd6 18.Ng5 (0:07)
Azubuike(1621) whispers: hello mcstorytaller
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *5* minutes)
ghambo(2010) whispers: somebody told about missplaced queen
ghambo(2010) whispers: and i agree with it
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: nothing to discuss, g6
ghambo(2010) whispers: our Q is babysitiing fking c pawn
floare(1917) whispers: :)
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: dont panic
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: g6, yes
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: c-pawn is not important
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: that is worst in this moment
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: was not...
ghambo(2010) whispers: but Q position is important
pchesso(1915) whispers: any alternatives to g6 here?
Azubuike(1621) whispers: any other move if not g6?
ghambo(2010) whispers: our q is defending and her Q is great
ghambo(2010) whispers: other is rook move
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 20 seconds
ghambo(2010) whispers: to escape
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well that is because we did not play b4 on time
ghambo(2010) whispers: g6 only move
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: and that move was good with queen in that moment
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
herrahuu(1686) whispers: it would be helpful to look at the present :)
ghambo(2010) whispers: dont know buddy but
Azubuike(1621) whispers: g6
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: g6 only move
floare(1917) whispers: g6
ghambo(2010) whispers: its not Qs place at c7
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: yup go
ghambo(2010) whispers: i know it 18...g6 (2:49)
ghambo(2010) whispers: ;)
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: white has ide of qc5, bc3 and qd4
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: which is nasty
schachbjm(2243) whispers: wb
schachbjm(2243) whispers: hi booby
ghambo(2010) whispers: welcome schac
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: f5 wasn't better?
ghambo(2010) whispers: what u think?
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: hi schachbjm
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: BJM!
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: f5 ? ne6
Azubuike(1621) whispers: welcome back schachbjm
herrahuu(1686) whispers: knight has c4?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: 16.dxe5 was played, interesting
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: right
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: we are defending
schachbjm(2243) whispers: white is better here, definitively
ghambo(2010) whispers: shure
ghambo(2010) whispers: much better
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well she must work a lot to improve that ...
schachbjm(2243) whispers: nevertheless, there are fair drawing chances
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: much better ?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: pls
ghambo(2010) whispers: yes
herrahuu(1686) whispers: is there some kind of c5 after Nc4?
ghambo(2010) whispers: u dont agree?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: no?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: it is far away from a deciding/significant advantage
schachbjm(2243) whispers: pchesso is still captain=
schachbjm(2243) whispers: ?
ghambo(2010) whispers: i dont know what engine says but
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: yes much better means she has clear win ..and in this position ..it is not ...
ghambo(2010) whispers: imho white is much better
ghambo(2010) whispers: no
ghambo(2010) whispers: i mean not it
ghambo(2010) whispers: white has free play
pchesso(1915) whispers: yes, while i call it moderator, not captain :) i feel i am not contributing strategically
herrahuu(1686) whispers: time is of esense...
ghambo(2010) whispers: and we dont
herrahuu(1686) whispers: essense
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: moo
schachbjm(2243) whispers: we have 1 hr after arround 20 moves, which is fine
pchesso(1915) whispers: we made 18 moves in 1 hour - not bad
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: at the moment n on d6 defends e4 square
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: our king looks a bit more hung out to dry than whites
ghambo(2010) whispers: sorry guys but its not pleasure to play with balck for me
ghambo(2010) whispers: am leaving
ghambo(2010) whispers: gl to all
schachbjm(2243) whispers: a big issue is the weak dark squares and the a1-h8 diagonale. Qc5 Bc3 looks slighly problematic
ghambo(2010) whispers: ||*(
schachbjm(2243) whispers: bye, thx
ghambo(2010) whispers: maybe ill join later
ghambo(2010) whispers: ;)
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: yep, nobody likes to defend a tough position
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: run away, cowards
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: :))
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: Nc4 looks like a good idea
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: this time i agree with you hyper
TheHaymaker(1922) whispers: what game is this? Teamleague game?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: it is an outpost at least 19.Rac1 (6:24)
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: to enable maybe later c5 exchange
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *5* minutes)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yeah.
Gorgonian(2002) whispers: vote chess game against daria khokhlova
herrahuu(1686) whispers: that would be superb to achieve
pchesso(1915) whispers: TheHaymaker it is vote chess
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: h6 to force the knight back first, perhaps
schachbjm(2243) whispers: it is a team between one strong tlplayer and the tl community
schachbjm(2243) whispers: we did 3 of this games in the last few weeks
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: strongest :D
herrahuu(1686) whispers: i thought she'd go with rook to b so after Nc4 -- c5 bx she would have had Bxb4
TheHaymaker(1922) whispers: how do I vote?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: if Nc4 straight away, Ne4 might be unpleasant?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: sorry cx
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: by raiting if nothing else
pchesso(1915) whispers: how about a5 now?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: true maybe h6 first here
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: just discuss
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: and after vote
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: we could throw a5 in at some point
pchesso(1915) whispers: TheHaymaker first we discuss, then we vote
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: yes, advancing
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Rc1 makes sense, there is a possible exchange sac after Qc5 Nc4
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: good idea hypes
TheHaymaker(1922) whispers: Black should play Nc4 and then c6 to free his bishop. black is fine
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: our n wants to go to c4 with effect, so rad8 may come in handy
schachbjm(2243) whispers: what about NNc4 c5 freeing our LSB?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: our dark squares are weak
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: hay first h6 es necessito
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nc4 Ne4?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: h6 then Nc4 then c5
pchesso(1915) whispers: so, candidates: a5, Nc4, h6. voting starts in 2 minutes
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Rae8 is sensible, too
schachbjm(2243) whispers: preventing white from maneuvering the knight with Ne4-f6
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: h6 Ne4 Nxe4 Qxe4 c5 Qh4 is good for white though, methinks
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: is there some tactics with ne6 after h6?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: h6 does not work
schachbjm(2243) whispers: !!
TheHaymaker(1922) whispers: why play h6?
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: because then g6 hangs and bc3 follows
TheHaymaker(1922) whispers: there is no threat
TheHaymaker(1922) whispers: h6 is weakening
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: so maybe Nc4 first?
Azubuike(1621) whispers: a5 does not work either
TheHaymaker(1922) whispers: just nc4 foloowed by c5
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 40 seconds
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: what if Nc4 then white plays Ne4?
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Rad8 or Rfe8
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: h6 ne6!? fxe6 qxg6 followed by bc3 looks dangerous
schachbjm(2243) whispers: h6 Ne6! fxe6 Qxg6+ Qg7 Qxg7+ Kxg7 Bc3+ picking up the knight with a winning position
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Rae8
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: lets develop our rooks
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Rae8
schachbjm(2243) whispers: the knight maneuver is too dangerous, then Nc4 c5
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: rc8 or d8 make the most sense
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: ae8 or fe8?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: ok Rae8
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: maybe supports Nc4 at some point
TheHaymaker(1922) whispers: Rae8 I like that move
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: by stopping Ng5-e4
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Rae8 19...Rae8 (5:49)
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: ok
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: yeah 20.Qc5 (0:08)
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: white might remove B through c3 to a1 and put Q on c3 which would be mate threat
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *3* minutes)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: let us have a look at Nc4
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: this was premove lol
schachbjm(2243) whispers: is there an exchange sac?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: uhm, Nc4 and Ne4
schachbjm(2243) whispers: no, it was not
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: bc3 followed by qd4
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: Nc4 Rxc4 Qxc4
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: ewps forgot pawn xc4
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: whether she was psychic because she's so good, who knows everything is possible
schachbjm(2243) whispers: white is going to play Bc3 next
schachbjm(2243) whispers: do we have any sensible ressource against it?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nc4 Bc3 f6
schachbjm(2243) whispers: f6?! is totally double edged and risky
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: do you see anything better
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: h6
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: f6 is interesting, yes
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Qd4
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: ne4 maybe forces nxe4 rxe4 then bc3 could be met with rc4
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: and Ne4!
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: what about Ne4 right now
schachbjm(2243) whispers: @hyper: let us keep the option to play Nc4, i would not play it right away due to exchange sacing ideas
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: cannot play Ne4 yet
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 1 minute
floare(1917) whispers: why?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I would consider exchanging knights and try to save the opposite bishop
schachbjm(2243) whispers: booby, you are right
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: Non g5
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: could take our N
schachbjm(2243) whispers: pchesso wait
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Hyper's plan sounds good to me
pchesso(1915) whispers: ok
schachbjm(2243) whispers: i just wanna have a look at 20... f6?!
herrahuu(1686) whispers: great discussion.
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: there isn't much we can do here
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I am not considering f6 here....
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: but perhaps we should
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: f6 is a bit crazy, but looks interesting
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: f6 Nf3 Ne4?
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: my plan is to attack N by h6 and then play Nd4!
milpat(2071) whispers: f6 Bd2moves might be possible
schachbjm(2243) whispers: ok, it does not work. I thought that there were some ideas against the queen with f6 Nf6 Ne4
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: yeah i like h6 here
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 1 minute, please :)
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: h6 Bc3!
milpat(2071) whispers: in that sense yes
schachbjm(2243) whispers: yes, h6 is not a good idea
milpat(2071) whispers: since Nd6 gets attacked
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: so schach, what do we do?
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: yes, f6 Nf3 Ne4 looks good, we can have maybe Re5 too later
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 30 seconds
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: we also should start considering the clock
pchesso(1915) whispers: tha is what i do :)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Ne4 and try to keep this unpleasant position looks best (better it is not that terrible)
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: we still have some time
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Ne4
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: f6 bad
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: maybe Nc4 is betetr righ now
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Nc6 is fine with me, too
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: so lets consider carefully here
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Nc4, sry
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: Ne4
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Ne4 is a safe move, yes
schachbjm(2243) whispers: vote Ne4
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: vote ne4
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Ne4 vote I :)
floare(1917) whispers: ne4
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: Nc4 20...Ne4 (6:28)
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: this trades more pieces
schachbjm(2243) whispers: vote premove Rxe4
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: ok, agree
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: good for us 21.Nxe4 (0:18)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Rxe4
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: rxe4
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: Rxe4
pchesso(1915) whispers: Rxe4 everyone?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: just move
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yup
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Qxh2! 21...Rxe4 (0:12)
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: :)
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: i dont like rook on e4
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: Nc4 was maybe better
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: Rh4 then Rh5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I don't like that you don't like it
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: at least we have hindered bc3 now
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Nimzo, are you going to argue against 2200 players? Huh?! Huh??! :)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: :D
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Rc4 or Rh4 depening on whites move looks sensible
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well this game is made for that
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: Bc3 Rc4!
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: we have not other
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: yes, balla
schachbjm(2243) whispers: everybody has the right to state his opinion, no matter whether he is 1300 or 2800.
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: I still do not see the point of Qc5 move
herrahuu(1686) whispers: sweet
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: we should try to exchange more stuff
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: opportunity
herrahuu(1686) whispers: <3
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: maybe we can go for re5 and c5 sacrificing the c6 pawn to get activity
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: the endgame should be defendable
herrahuu(1686) whispers: yeah @hyper
schachbjm(2243) whispers: yes, we have to free or LSB soon
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: perhaps, it's the initiative that matters in OCB positions 22.Be1 (2:15)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *3* minutes)
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: her play is very machine-like
schachbjm(2243) whispers: what is the purpose of Be1, i did not see this move coming
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: Rd8
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I did
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: to prevent Rd8
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: no Bc3 in view of Rc4
herrahuu(1686) whispers: what is machinelike?
herrahuu(1686) whispers: pragmatic?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: yeah
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: like Funkmaus on steroids
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: :))
herrahuu(1686) whispers: lol
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: Rfe
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Rh4 does not work here, right?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: just h3
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: yeah pointless right now
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: double?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: or maybe Rd8
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: double perhaps
schachbjm(2243) whispers: doubing rooks cannot be wrong here
schachbjm(2243) whispers: let us see how she reacts
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: We want to play Qe5
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: well seems that is only options
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 30 seconds
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: maybe we need to contest the open file
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: but here it is bad
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I like Rd8 and Re8
Maxmagnus(2024) whispers: why not Rd8
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: vote Rd8
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Rx Qx Qa7?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: vote Rfe8
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: maybe she also wants to play f3 followed by bg3
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: RFE8
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Rfe8
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: ok change vote to Rfe8
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: go 22...Rfe8 (3:56)
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: u know Ra7 still possible here?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: i mean Qa7
schachbjm(2243) whispers: @pchesso: Will the game be adjourned, when bethany is taking over the "control" :D
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Qa7 Ra8 is a repetition
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: well, maybe not
pchesso(1915) whispers: good question, i don't know
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: yeah
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: we now cannot play f6 anymore but have qe7
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: we should trade queens
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: terrible, terrible position
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: we also have rook lift followed by c5?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: that's what happens when you play Nf3 d5!
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: you mean rh4-h5 +c5?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: you blundered on the very first move
milpat(2071) whispers: lol hm, u mean when u choke on push d4
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: or a version with liftage, booby
floare(1917) whispers: which move was a blunder, Hyper?
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: why terrible ..it is playable ....
schachbjm(2243) whispers: 1...d5 is the second most popular move :D
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: botch, interesting but slow
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: ah
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: who voted for d5? :)
schachbjm(2243) whispers: i voted 1...Nf6
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: yeah white could respond with Qd6
pchesso(1915) whispers: what do we do after e. g. Rd6 ?
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: everybody should know that ...f5 is the correct answer to nf3 :p
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Re5!
milpat(2071) whispers: Rd6 Re5
pchesso(1915) whispers: which r?
milpat(2071) whispers: who caresc it wins a rook 23.Rd3 (3:56)
pchesso(1915) whispers: DISCUSS please (max. *3* minutes)
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Rd3? doesn't look very critical
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I think it gives us time
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: but makes sense
milpat(2071) whispers: double and Rd7 is the idea?
schachbjm(2243) whispers: hi saaleh
schachbjm(2243) whispers: another 2200+ player is joining us
herrahuu(1686) whispers: is he looking for to double on d?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Qe5?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: Qf4!!!
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: f3 followed by bg3/h4 then double rooks on d-file
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: and we have back rank issues
mcstorytaller(1828) whispers: Qe5
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: who said R8e5?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: :D
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Qf4?? f3! 1-0
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: f3 Rxe3?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: Rxe3 then
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: Bd2 still wins I guess
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: ah
schachbjm(2243) whispers: Qf4?? f3 Rxe3 Bd2!
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: botc you said R8e5?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: yeah
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: r8e5 looks good
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: i agree with that
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: r4d5 gives her square d4 for the q
schachbjm(2243) whispers: we have back rank issues
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: my vote R8e5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: can we try a5 and Ra4 at some point?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: Qf4 f3 R4e5
floare(1917) whispers: maybe
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: r8e5 qc3 rc4!
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: try Re5 and c5 sac?
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: so qd6 must be played
schachbjm(2243) whispers: R8e5 may free our LSB, so it makes sense
pchesso(1915) whispers: can we vote in 1 minute, or do you need more time?
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: R8e5 Qa7?
BOTCHvinik(1753) whispers: afk
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: R8e5 ...attacking move ,....seems best
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: qa7 does not disturb to much, does it?
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: too*
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: I dunno
Azubuike(1621) whispers: how about Rd8?
pchesso(1915) whispers: IMPORTANT: we will adjourn the game after our next move, and Bethany will take over from me then
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: R8e5 Qa7, c5 is still not possible
schachbjm(2243) whispers: R8e5 is risky, nevertheless i have the feeling that we have to go for it
schachbjm(2243) whispers: without our LSB, she will slowly crush us
pchesso(1915) whispers: so you can already now "follow khokhlova" if you like
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: i put joker on my vote ,,,and botchvinik r8e5
schachbjm(2243) whispers: thx
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: that means 4 votes :D
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: okay, let's do it
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: r8e5 and rd8 seem to be best choises
pchesso(1915) whispers: voting starts in 10 seconds
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: pchesso, we go R8e5
pchesso(1915) whispers: VOTE now please.
schachbjm(2243) whispers: we ll suffer, but there is not anything better
schachbjm(2243) whispers: R8e5
Boobyslegacy(2024) whispers: r8e5
NimzoLegacy(1801) whispers: r8e5
HyperMagnus(2224) whispers: R8e5 23...R8e5 (6:29)
herrahuu(1686) whispers: R8e5 TLCommunity requests to adjourn the game. Game adjourned by mutual agreement *
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