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serlok(1983) vs. kirany(1972)

serlok(1983) vs. kirany(1972) 0-1

17...Rd6 (0:26) 18.Rfe1 (3:06) Rfd8 (0:10) 19.Re2 (0:16) Ne4 (3:55)
blore(1899) whispers: this controls d2 preventing doubling and maybe f5 next 20.Nd2 (2:23)
blore(1899) whispers: a cricitical move? kiran taking time on this one. Qa6 is good? 20...Qa6 (17:37)
blore(1899) whispers: woof! my move ...Qa6 is what kiran has gone with
blore(1899) whispers: woof
blore(1899) whispers: Nxe4 dxe4 Red2 Rxd2 Rxd2 Rxd2 Qxd2 Qxa2 Qd8+ Kh7 Qh4+ Kg8 Qd8+ Kh7 leads to draw by perpetual check
blore(1899) whispers: so if there is exchange of knights and rooks the queen endgame is hard to win. even if black refrains from Qxa2 the queen endgame is very likely to be drawable
blore(1899) whispers: woof
blore(1899) whispers: woof! I correct my previous line with Qd3 instead of Qxa2 and it is very strong for black!
KayVee(1609) whispers: I thought Q@a6 put pressure by looking at e2 21.Nxe4 (11:00)
KayVee(1609) whispers: don't like Qxa2 though 21...dxe4 (1:53) 22.Rxd6 (0:02) Rxd6 (0:17)
Nitreb(1427) whispers: QxR seemed stronger 23.Rd2 (2:56) Rxd2 (0:10) 24.Qxd2 (0:03) Qd3 (0:02)
KayVee(1609) whispers: of course not Qx - but what?
blore(1899) whispers: late night here i took a snooze and came back...he has played my revised line of Qd3 alright
blore(1899) whispers: so in my brief sleep i missed nothing the line i thought of was playe
blore(1899) whispers: i like the look of black army. Kf1 now is weak since it can be answered with Qxf1 capturing the king :D
blore(1899) whispers: Qc1 or Qe1 of course
blore(1899) whispers: Qc1 appears better because Qe1 allows Qc2 25.Qxd3 (8:03) exd3 (0:02) 26.Kf1 (0:01) c4 (0:02) 27.a4 (0:02)
KayVee(1609) whispers: wow - long term structural gain - a6
blore(1899) whispers: the protected passer!!!
blore(1899) whispers: and not enough time for b3 because the b passer will be distant so b3 only after the king gets closer
KayVee(1609) whispers: Black has to be quick - White will try to go K@d2 and then b3
blore(1899) whispers: i like b6 a6 and then only b5
KayVee(1609) whispers: oh wait - that doesnt work either
blore(1899) whispers: a6 immediately allows a5
KayVee(1609) whispers: oh - ic
blore(1899) whispers: a6 now a5 Kf8 Ke1 Ke7 Kd2 Kd6 b3 and bang black has to surrender the advanced passers
blore(1899) whispers: that might still mean plus because white has an isolated pawn on a5 which could be rounded up
blore(1899) whispers: allowing black an outside passer
Keresch(2001) whispers: simple white will suffer and get confused and he will blunder
blore(1899) whispers: lol...complicated but clearly advantage black
KiranY(1972) whispers: 2 approaches .. b6 a6 b5 or k march to c5
blore(1899) whispers: i see b6 Ke1 a6 Kd2 b5 and there is serious trouble for white
Jammes(1779) whispers: ok whites only chance is kd2 b3 i think black should play b6 here to kill that b3 move and than its an easy win
blore(1899) whispers: yes...
KiranY(1972) whispers: or a6 a5 then k march
Keresch(2001) whispers: no its not that complecated the white king will have to defend against this monster pawnon d3 this means the black king has a free hand
KayVee(1609) whispers: too late for K march 27...a6 (8:13)
Keresch(2001) whispers: a6 to meet b4 with b5
blore(1899) whispers: oh oh oh 28.a5 (0:25) Kf8 (0:03)
blore(1899) whispers: but a5 ? 29.Ke1 (0:08) Ke7 (0:01) 30.Kd2 (0:04)
blore(1899) whispers: i guess this is also a clear win but i liked the other subtler win 30...Kd6 (0:01)
Keresch(2001) whispers: a5 ? i think equal to resignation
blore(1899) whispers: close to impossible to defend the far flung a5 pawn
KiranY(1972) whispers: b3 cxb3 kxd3 kc5 is almost winning i think
blore(1899) whispers: i tend to agree with keresch there on a5 being hard to hold
KiranY(1972) whispers: unles there arent any nasty surprises
Keresch(2001) whispers: in postions when u have no conter play and u stuck defending u will likely blunder a5 did not come out of the blue
Jammes(1779) whispers: a5 was no blunder it was only defensive idea imo b3 if you leave the protected passer on the board you cant hope for any mistakes
KiranY(1972) whispers: hopefully k side pawns dont queen until then
alexmontes(2002) whispers: white probably thought that allowing b5 was hopeless
Jammes(1779) whispers: yes and it was
Jammes(1779) whispers: at least i would think so 31.e4 (3:46)
Keresch(2001) whispers: jammes in endgames u have to play super accuratly the slightest inaccuracy porves deadly
Jammes(1779) whispers: yes keresch but i think with a protected passer on 3rd rank there is not much accuracy needed
blore(1899) whispers: this is won for black woof woof
Jammes(1779) whispers: g5 f4 g4
blore(1899) whispers: i liked the other line better b6 a6 and then b5
Jammes(1779) whispers: yes me too. here white needs to calculate
Jammes(1779) whispers: i mean black
Jammes(1779) whispers: if he just had kept it protected no calculation needed
blore(1899) whispers: that was a cleaner calculation free win
blore(1899) whispers: yes clean positional win there
blore(1899) whispers: here there is Ke4 though looks nice
blore(1899) whispers: f5 aklso looks strong
KayVee(1609) whispers: I like g5 - keep the K free for the Q-side
blore(1899) whispers: worry really is now the protected passer will be undermined with b3
Keresch(2001) whispers: well u never know u could still lose this ic u relax happened to me so many times
Keresch(2001) whispers: there is somthing i dont understand inthis game , in move 13 white played 13.Nf3 allowing the Nxd3 and losing his bishop pair y ??
Jammes(1779) whispers: i thought it would kayvee but i m not sure its a good move any longer because f and e pawn are enough to create a passer
blore(1899) whispers: f5 addresses that
Jammes(1779) whispers: right f5 seems nice
blore(1899) whispers: the best move for black now is b5 (and pray that white has forgotten the en passant rule!!!)
KayVee(1609) whispers: lol
KayVee(1609) whispers: hope chess
Jammes(1779) whispers: im not sure b5 might even be strong if white knows the rule :)
blore(1899) whispers: f5 now seriously undermines white i think thwat is the move to play
Jammes(1779) whispers: i begin to like both b5 and f5. b5 axb a5 and white will never be able to play b3
Jammes(1779) whispers: if he does he allows connected passer
Keresch(2001) whispers: y not Kc5 ?
blore(1899) whispers: f5 b3 fxe4 bxc4 f3
blore(1899) whispers: Kc5 is an idea but K side is too slow?
Jammes(1779) whispers: b5 axb a5 b3 cxb kc6 kxd3 kxb6 looks completly hopeless too
blore(1899) whispers: unless black goes mad white cannot survive this
Jammes(1779) whispers: wait i gave black one move to much
Jammes(1779) whispers: cxb and kc6 at once b5 axb a6 b3 cxb kxd3 kc6 c4 a5... ant both have connected 31...g5 (11:04)
blore(1899) whispers: f5 wins
blore(1899) whispers: oh no! As soon as i said that kiran plays g5 :(
KiranY(1972) whispers: plan is b6
blore(1899) whispers: f5 b3 fxe4 bxc4 Kc4 f3 exf3 and there is no time for Kxd3 because of fxg2 and g1=Q
KiranY(1972) whispers: to avoid breaks
KiranY(1972) whispers: i mean g6
blore(1899) whispers: hmmmmm some thoughts from one of the players. often the players not comentating and only the spectators.
blore(1899) whispers: good to know what the players are thinking
blore(1899) whispers: notwithstanding which i am convinced f5 was the best...woof woof
blore(1899) whispers: instance f5 f3 fxe4 fxe4 is also creating a weak isolated pawn and then Ke3 Ke5 followed by d2 Kxd2 and swallowing the weak doubled g pawns
blore(1899) whispers: woof woof woof 32.g4 (5:09)
blore(1899) whispers: Ke5 woof
blore(1899) whispers: not really good
KiranY(1972) whispers: if f4 fxg5 then g6
KiranY(1972) whispers: f5 f5 then f6
blore(1899) whispers: Ke5 Ke3 d2 Kxd2 Kxe4 Ke2 Kf4 f3 Kg3 Kf1 32...Kc5 (1:52) 33.g3 (0:18)
KiranY(1972) whispers: ah there is f4 e5 then f5
blore(1899) whispers: oh so he is not going to take on f4 he has clarified 33...Kb5 (1:27)
blore(1899) whispers: neat so next move the a pawn false
blore(1899) whispers: neat so next move the a pawn falls 34.f4 (1:02) Kxa5 (0:05) 35.e5 (0:18) Kb5 (0:03)
blore(1899) whispers: good thinking because the trippled g pawns will be held by the one pawn and if f5 f6 again everything is held back and the king cannot abandon the protectedpasser and b3 loses
KiranY(1972) whispers: b3 might be troubling 36.b3 (0:33)
blore(1899) whispers: now f5 and e6 is too slow since the black king is in the range
blore(1899) whispers: no trouble!! cxb3 Kxd3 a5-a4 and connected passers instead of protected passewr even better
blore(1899) whispers: this is clear as mud! just take b3 and win
blore(1899) whispers: there is no real threat on the K side since the black king is in range 36...cxb3 (4:11) 37.Kxd3 (0:03) a5 (0:11)
blore(1899) whispers: cxb3 Kxd3 a5 f5 Kc5 e6 fxe6 fxe6 Kd6 0-1
blore(1899) whispers: yessss woof woof woof woof kiran
blore(1899) whispers: winningggggggg
KiranY(1972) whispers: ka4 route was more fun 38.c4+ (1:08)
KiranY(1972) whispers: ka4 f5 ka3 e6 fxe6 fxe6 b2 e7 b1q+ k anywhere qb5
blore(1899) whispers: aha! 38...Kc5 (0:36) 39.Kc3 (0:07) a4 (0:03) 40.f5 (0:11) Kc6 (0:29)
blore(1899) whispers: b6 was also on!!! 41.Kb2 (0:16)
blore(1899) whispers: a critical tempo move
blore(1899) whispers: now even berrer is b5 woof
blore(1899) whispers: now even better is b5 woof
blore(1899) whispers: b5 cxb5 Kxb5 e6 fxe6 fxe6 Kc6 0-1 41...b5 (1:14)
blore(1899) whispers: woof woof woof b5 winning Serlok resigns 0-1

{17...Rd6} {(0:26)}
18.Rfe1 {(3:06)} Rfd8 {(0:10)} 19.Re2 {(0:16)} Ne4 {(3:55)

blore(1899) whispers: this controls d2 preventing doubling and maybe f5 next}
20.Nd2 {(2:23)

blore(1899) whispers: a cricitical move? kiran taking time on this one. Qa6 is good?}
20...Qa6 {(17:37)

blore(1899) whispers: woof! my move ...Qa6 is what kiran has gone with

blore(1899) whispers: woof

blore(1899) whispers: Nxe4 dxe4 Red2 Rxd2 Rxd2 Rxd2 Qxd2 Qxa2 Qd8+ Kh7 Qh4+ Kg8 Qd8+ Kh7 leads to draw by perpetual check

blore(1899) whispers: so if there is exchange of knights and rooks the queen endgame is hard to win. even if black refrains from Qxa2 the queen endgame is very likely to be drawable

blore(1899) whispers: woof

blore(1899) whispers: woof! I correct my previous line with Qd3 instead of Qxa2 and it is very strong for black!

KayVee(1609) whispers: I thought Q@a6 put pressure by looking at e2}
21.Nxe4 {(11:00)

KayVee(1609) whispers: don't like Qxa2 though}
21...dxe4 {(1:53)} 22.Rxd6 {(0:02)} Rxd6 {(0:17)

Nitreb(1427) whispers: QxR seemed stronger}
23.Rd2 {(2:56)} Rxd2 {(0:10)} 24.Qxd2 {(0:03)} Qd3 {(0:02)

KayVee(1609) whispers: of course not Qx - but what?

blore(1899) whispers: late night here i took a snooze and came back...he has played my revised line of Qd3 alright

blore(1899) whispers: so in my brief sleep i missed nothing the line i thought of was playe

blore(1899) whispers: i like the look of black army. Kf1 now is weak since it can be answered with Qxf1 capturing the king :D

blore(1899) whispers: Qc1 or Qe1 of course

blore(1899) whispers: Qc1 appears better because Qe1 allows Qc2}
25.Qxd3 {(8:03)} exd3 {(0:02)} 26.Kf1 {(0:01)} c4 {(0:02)} 27.a4 {(0:02)

KayVee(1609) whispers: wow - long term structural gain - a6

blore(1899) whispers: the protected passer!!!

blore(1899) whispers: and not enough time for b3 because the b passer will be distant so b3 only after the king gets closer

KayVee(1609) whispers: Black has to be quick - White will try to go K@d2 and then b3

blore(1899) whispers: i like b6 a6 and then only b5

KayVee(1609) whispers: oh wait - that doesnt work either

blore(1899) whispers: a6 immediately allows a5

KayVee(1609) whispers: oh - ic

blore(1899) whispers: a6 now a5 Kf8 Ke1 Ke7 Kd2 Kd6 b3 and bang black has to surrender the advanced passers

blore(1899) whispers: that might still mean plus because white has an isolated pawn on a5 which could be rounded up

blore(1899) whispers: allowing black an outside passer

Keresch(2001) whispers: simple white will suffer and get confused and he will blunder

blore(1899) whispers: lol...complicated but clearly advantage black

KiranY(1972) whispers: 2 approaches .. b6 a6 b5 or k march to c5

blore(1899) whispers: i see b6 Ke1 a6 Kd2 b5 and there is serious trouble for white

Jammes(1779) whispers: ok whites only chance is kd2 b3 i think black should play b6 here to kill that b3 move and than its an easy win

blore(1899) whispers: yes...

KiranY(1972) whispers: or a6 a5 then k march

Keresch(2001) whispers: no its not that complecated the white king will have to defend against this monster pawnon d3 this means the black king has a free hand

KayVee(1609) whispers: too late for K march}
27...a6 {(8:13)

Keresch(2001) whispers: a6 to meet b4 with b5

blore(1899) whispers: oh oh oh}
28.a5 {(0:25)} Kf8 {(0:03)

blore(1899) whispers: but a5 ?}
29.Ke1 {(0:08)} Ke7 {(0:01)} 30.Kd2 {(0:04)

blore(1899) whispers: i guess this is also a clear win but i liked the other subtler win}
30...Kd6 {(0:01)

Keresch(2001) whispers: a5 ? i think equal to resignation

blore(1899) whispers: close to impossible to defend the far flung a5 pawn

KiranY(1972) whispers: b3 cxb3 kxd3 kc5 is almost winning i think

blore(1899) whispers: i tend to agree with keresch there on a5 being hard to hold

KiranY(1972) whispers: unles there arent any nasty surprises

Keresch(2001) whispers: in postions when u have no conter play and u stuck defending u will likely blunder a5 did not come out of the blue

Jammes(1779) whispers: a5 was no blunder it was only defensive idea imo b3 if you leave the protected passer on the board you cant hope for any mistakes

KiranY(1972) whispers: hopefully k side pawns dont queen until then

alexmontes(2002) whispers: white probably thought that allowing b5 was hopeless

Jammes(1779) whispers: yes and it was

Jammes(1779) whispers: at least i would think so}
31.e4 {(3:46)

Keresch(2001) whispers: jammes in endgames u have to play super accuratly the slightest inaccuracy porves deadly

Jammes(1779) whispers: yes keresch but i think with a protected passer on 3rd rank there is not much accuracy needed

blore(1899) whispers: this is won for black woof woof

Jammes(1779) whispers: g5 f4 g4

blore(1899) whispers: i liked the other line better b6 a6 and then b5

Jammes(1779) whispers: yes me too. here white needs to calculate

Jammes(1779) whispers: i mean black

Jammes(1779) whispers: if he just had kept it protected no calculation needed

blore(1899) whispers: that was a cleaner calculation free win

blore(1899) whispers: yes clean positional win there

blore(1899) whispers: here there is Ke4 though looks nice

blore(1899) whispers: f5 aklso looks strong

KayVee(1609) whispers: I like g5 - keep the K free for the Q-side

blore(1899) whispers: worry really is now the protected passer will be undermined with b3

Keresch(2001) whispers: well u never know u could still lose this ic u relax happened to me so many times

Keresch(2001) whispers: there is somthing i dont understand inthis game , in move 13 white played 13.Nf3 allowing the Nxd3 and losing his bishop pair y ??

Jammes(1779) whispers: i thought it would kayvee but i m not sure its a good move any longer because f and e pawn are enough to create a passer

blore(1899) whispers: f5 addresses that

Jammes(1779) whispers: right f5 seems nice

blore(1899) whispers: the best move for black now is b5 (and pray that white has forgotten the en passant rule!!!)

KayVee(1609) whispers: lol

KayVee(1609) whispers: hope chess

Jammes(1779) whispers: im not sure b5 might even be strong if white knows the rule :)

blore(1899) whispers: f5 now seriously undermines white i think thwat is the move to play

Jammes(1779) whispers: i begin to like both b5 and f5. b5 axb a5 and white will never be able to play b3

Jammes(1779) whispers: if he does he allows connected passer

Keresch(2001) whispers: y not Kc5 ?

blore(1899) whispers: f5 b3 fxe4 bxc4 f3

blore(1899) whispers: Kc5 is an idea but K side is too slow?

Jammes(1779) whispers: b5 axb a5 b3 cxb kc6 kxd3 kxb6 looks completly hopeless too

blore(1899) whispers: unless black goes mad white cannot survive this

Jammes(1779) whispers: wait i gave black one move to much

Jammes(1779) whispers: cxb and kc6 at once b5 axb a6 b3 cxb kxd3 kc6 c4 a5... ant both have connected}
31...g5 {(11:04)

blore(1899) whispers: f5 wins

blore(1899) whispers: oh no! As soon as i said that kiran plays g5 :(

KiranY(1972) whispers: plan is b6

blore(1899) whispers: f5 b3 fxe4 bxc4 Kc4 f3 exf3 and there is no time for Kxd3 because of fxg2 and g1=Q

KiranY(1972) whispers: to avoid breaks

KiranY(1972) whispers: i mean g6

blore(1899) whispers: hmmmmm some thoughts from one of the players. often the players not comentating and only the spectators.

blore(1899) whispers: good to know what the players are thinking

blore(1899) whispers: notwithstanding which i am convinced f5 was the best...woof woof

blore(1899) whispers: instance f5 f3 fxe4 fxe4 is also creating a weak isolated pawn and then Ke3 Ke5 followed by d2 Kxd2 and swallowing the weak doubled g pawns

blore(1899) whispers: woof woof woof}
32.g4 {(5:09)

blore(1899) whispers: Ke5 woof

blore(1899) whispers: not really good

KiranY(1972) whispers: if f4 fxg5 then g6

KiranY(1972) whispers: f5 f5 then f6

blore(1899) whispers: Ke5 Ke3 d2 Kxd2 Kxe4 Ke2 Kf4 f3 Kg3 Kf1}
32...Kc5 {(1:52)} 33.g3 {(0:18)

KiranY(1972) whispers: ah there is f4 e5 then f5

blore(1899) whispers: oh so he is not going to take on f4 he has clarified}
33...Kb5 {(1:27)

blore(1899) whispers: neat so next move the a pawn false

blore(1899) whispers: neat so next move the a pawn falls}
34.f4 {(1:02)} Kxa5 {(0:05)} 35.e5 {(0:18)} Kb5 {(0:03)

blore(1899) whispers: good thinking because the trippled g pawns will be held by the one pawn and if f5 f6 again everything is held back and the king cannot abandon the protectedpasser and b3 loses

KiranY(1972) whispers: b3 might be troubling}
36.b3 {(0:33)

blore(1899) whispers: now f5 and e6 is too slow since the black king is in the range

blore(1899) whispers: no trouble!! cxb3 Kxd3 a5-a4 and connected passers instead of protected passewr even better

blore(1899) whispers: this is clear as mud! just take b3 and win

blore(1899) whispers: there is no real threat on the K side since the black king is in range}
36...cxb3 {(4:11)} 37.Kxd3 {(0:03)} a5 {(0:11)

blore(1899) whispers: cxb3 Kxd3 a5 f5 Kc5 e6 fxe6 fxe6 Kd6 0-1

blore(1899) whispers: yessss woof woof woof woof kiran

blore(1899) whispers: winningggggggg

KiranY(1972) whispers: ka4 route was more fun}
38.c4+ {(1:08)

KiranY(1972) whispers: ka4 f5 ka3 e6 fxe6 fxe6 b2 e7 b1q+ k anywhere qb5

blore(1899) whispers: aha!}
38...Kc5 {(0:36)} 39.Kc3 {(0:07)} a4 {(0:03)} 40.f5 {(0:11)} Kc6 {(0:29)

blore(1899) whispers: b6 was also on!!!}
41.Kb2 {(0:16)

blore(1899) whispers: a critical tempo move

blore(1899) whispers: now even berrer is b5 woof

blore(1899) whispers: now even better is b5 woof

blore(1899) whispers: b5 cxb5 Kxb5 e6 fxe6 fxe6 Kc6 0-1}
41...b5 {(1:14)

blore(1899) whispers: woof woof woof b5 winning}
{Serlok resigns} 0-1

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