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aditinitya(1646) vs. ciedan(1771) 0-1

1.d4 (0:00) d6 (0:00) 2.Nf3 (0:51) Bg4 (0:26) 3.c4 (1:09) Nd7 (0:09) 4.Bf4 (0:59) Ngf6 (1:56) 5.e3 (1:20) e5 (1:22) 6.Bg5 (2:49) Be7 (2:48) 7.Be2 (0:04) Ne4 (2:54) 8.Bxe7 (1:13) Qxe7 (0:03) 9.Nbd2 (1:21) Nxd2 (1:00) 10.Qxd2 (0:17) e4 (2:08) 11.Ng1 (1:44) Be6 (3:03) 12.Rc1 (2:45) O-O (2:58) 13.Bd1 (1:21) aditinitya offers a draw. ciedan declines the draw request. 13...Qg5 (5:07) 14.f3 (3:40) Rae8 (2:55) 15.fxe4 (2:16) Nf6 (1:10) 16.Nf3 (0:15) Qg6 (0:10) 17.O-O (3:16) Nxe4 (7:23)
ciedan(1771) whispers: mhh, two or three moves ago i thought this will be a wipe out with that development, but right now it still feels okay, but not that great 18.Qe2 (3:03) Bg4 (5:17) 19.Bc2 (2:05) Qe6 (1:19) 20.Bxe4 (2:55) Qxe4 (0:28) 21.Rc3 (1:49)
ciedan(1771) whispers: and now let's see if I can get my favorite motive into the game playing against a backward pawn on e3
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm, black looks a little better in this simplified position
nemotyro(1858) whispers: What's that: f5?
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Hi sbc!
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hey nemo, others
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: I suppose f5 fixes the weak e3 pawn
KayVee(1634) whispers: but black is leading with his Q - how does play against e3 work? doesnt he need to lead with a lesser piece?
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: also threatens f4, but that isn't hard to deal with 21...f5 (5:18)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well at least f5 makes white do something 22.Qd3 (3:07)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well this solves the problem KV was talking about, just trade queens
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm Qxd3 Rxd3 Re4 Nd2? Be2 22...Qxd3 (2:20) 23.Rxd3 (0:11)
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Oh yes, B fork. 23...f4 (0:32)
nemotyro(1858) whispers: I'd be inclined to rid the weak e-pawn 24.exf4 (1:45) Rxf4 (0:20)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well he looks for a different advantage now, with Re2 potentially
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Ng5 invite exchange?
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: check on e2 afterwards loses a rook
ciedan(1771) whispers: okay playing against e3 failed, but I got the more active pieces, but in the end it still looks drawish in nature
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: rather, wins one for black 25.b3 (1:52)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm, maybe black can try for a total simplification with Re2 here
nemotyro(1858) whispers: a2 looks very vulnerable
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Re2 Rf2 Bxf3 Rdxf3 Rxf3 gxf3 Rxf2 Kxf2
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm Re2 Rf2 Bxf3 Rdxf3 Rxf3 Rxe2 Rd3 d5 is =
nemotyro(1858) whispers: ok, I didn't see Rf2 25...Ree4 (3:14)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: wait, Re2 Rf2 Bxf3 Rdxf3 Re1+ Rf1 Rxf1+ Kxf1 Rxd4
nemotyro(1858) whispers: I thought Black would double his R's 26.d5 (0:42)
nemotyro(1858) whispers: ...first on the e-file, then on the 2nd rank
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: trouble was Rfe4 allowed Ng5
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: I think... 26...Re2 (0:54)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: maybe not, anyway I would have preferred Re2 before d4-d5
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Here we go with your Rf2 27.Nd2 (0:35)
nemotyro(1858) whispers: wow, didn't see that
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: strange move...
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: I think just Rf8 here
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: or maybe Rf7 is a tiny bit more accurate
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Does put the question to r 27...Bf5 (2:22)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm, very interesting
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: if this works, white is in big trouble
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Nice move
nemotyro(1858) whispers: RxR BxR Bf2?
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: yes that looks like a defence
ciedan(1771) whispers: I hope that i don't overlook some in between moves, everytime I leave a piece en prise 28.Rxf4 (1:45)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well Bxd3 Rf2 Re1+ Nf1 Ra1 seems still to be winning a pawn 28...Bxd3 (1:11) 29.Rf2 (0:22) Re1+ (0:30)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: more to the point, after Nf1 white is tied up 30.Nf1 (0:27) Ra1 (0:09)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: but I don't see a better way to exploit that than by just going for the a-pawn
KayVee(1634) whispers: doesnt Rf2 cover a pawn?
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: yeah but Bxf1 takes it away
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Bb1
KayVee(1634) whispers: ok
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: also Bb1, which might actually be better
nemotyro(1858) whispers: oh, of course
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: the bishop is better than the knight here, so might as well try to keep it
nemotyro(1858) whispers: But if Bb1 a4
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Bb1 a4 Bd3 g3 Rb1 and the b-pawn falls
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Your BxN seems better
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: always possible to play Bxf1 later 31.g3 (2:29)
KayVee(1634) whispers: Bb1 a4 Ba2
nemotyro(1858) whispers: ah because of the pin
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: oh wait...
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Bb1 Nd2 Bxa2 Rf1
nemotyro(1858) whispers: lol, I should concentrate
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: and of all things, the knight traps the bishop
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: so yeah, Bxf1 is better
ciedan(1771) whispers: cant win the pawn :( h3 Bb1 Ne2 and busted taking with the bishop is dead beacause Bxa2+ Rf1 Rxf1 Kf1 and the bishop is trapped same motive the other way around
nemotyro(1858) whispers: that's interesting
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: ciedan sees the issue with Bb1, but he's missing Bxf1
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: rather, missing that the rook has to leave the defence of a2
ciedan(1771) whispers: what is with the pawn ending?
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: pawn ending is at worst drawn for black, might even be winnable...
JoseCapablanca(1979) whispers: yes 31...Bxf1 (4:40) 32.Rxf1 (0:05) Rxa2 (0:02)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: ah, he sees it 33.Rb1 (0:05)
JoseCapablanca(1979) whispers: the active Black rook makes me feel it's winnable 33...Rc2 (0:10) 34.h4 (0:13)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: this should be winning
mcstorytaller(1836) whispers: hi cat!
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Maybe h3 would've been better instead of g3 34...Kf7 (0:33)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: g3 to follow with Kg2 was the only way to escape thep in
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: *the pin
nemotyro(1858) whispers: so the K wouldn't be trapped
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: h3 and Kh2 was losing the Nf1 35.Rf1+ (0:40)
nemotyro(1858) whispers: then Rf3
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm a little bit of care is needed here 35...Kg6 (0:30)
nemotyro(1858) whispers: ...or f2 36.g4 (0:31)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: this does not look right, now Rf3-e3 and white has some chances
Nitreb(1459) whispers: Shouldn't B push the a-pawn at some point?
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm, that's not bad either
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Rc3 h5+ Kg5 Rf7
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: and it becomes double edged
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well h5+ Kh6 Rf7 is more likely, but still dangerous 36...h5 (1:59)
nemotyro(1858) whispers: yes, I was eyeing f7 37.g5 (0:16)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: no better, gxh5+ now 37...Rb2 (0:08)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: I won't be too hard on them, rook endgames are immensely difficult
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Rf3, can't afford more pawn loss 38.Rf3 (0:32)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: black still has some troubles here, K on g6 is really unfortunate
nemotyro(1858) whispers: At least the K is kinda trapped, like whites 38...Ra2 (0:27)
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Nothing left for it but a K move.
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: or Re3 trying for counterplay 39.Rf1 (1:04) Ra3 (0:16) 40.Rf3 (0:03) a5 (0:04)
nemotyro(1858) whispers: hmmm, but off the f-file lets loose the K
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm that worked out well for black 41.Kg2 (0:08)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: right, it was double-edged to play Re3
nemotyro(1858) whispers: this is better for Black.
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: but this simply looks lost after a4 bxa4 Rxf3 Kxf3 Kf5
KayVee(1634) whispers: why not a4 bx Rxa4?
nemotyro(1858) whispers: maybe Re3.
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well mainly because I can see that the rook trade wins, KV ;)
KayVee(1634) whispers: oh
nemotyro(1858) whispers: get onto the 7th
KayVee(1634) whispers: thats too much work for me ;)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: however it takes some experience with king and pawn endgames to know that
ciedan(1771) whispers: a4 ba4 Rxf3 Kxf3 Kf5 looks promising
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: yeah ciedan sees it
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: German players always seem to know their endgames ;) 41...a4 (3:32)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: to take it a step further a4 bxa4 Rxf3 Kxf3 Kf5 a5 g6 and white must give way
nemotyro(1858) whispers: That proves it, I'm not German. :D
nemotyro(1858) whispers: why not Rxa4
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: or instead of a5 maybe g6 Kxg6 Kf4 to try to complicate, but black can simply play b6 there I think, and eventually Kf6 and g5 42.bxa4 (0:54)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Rxa4 keeps the game going, basically 42...Rxf3 (0:23) 43.Kxf3 (0:03) Kf5 (0:02)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: king and pawn endgames (if you know the theory) are always easiest
KayVee(1634) whispers: I think I see it - The white K can only protect one of the backward pawns
KayVee(1634) whispers: either c4 or h4 - Black can go after the other
nemotyro(1858) whispers: Black has more moves 44.a5 (0:28)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: he controls the opposition after g6 44...g6 (0:16)
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: and then white is forced to move his king, allowing black to outflank
KayVee(1634) whispers: I saw it after the Rooks came off - just could not visualize while the Rooks were on the board
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: yes I know what you mean
smallblackcat(2074) whispers: at this point it's easy enough to see, the skill lies in seeing how to get here aditinitya resigns 0-1

1.d4 {(0:00)} d6 {(0:00)} 2.Nf3 {(0:51)} Bg4 {(0:26)} 3.c4 {(1:09)} Nd7 {(0:09)} 4.Bf4 {(0:59)} Ngf6 {(1:56)} 5.e3 {(1:20)} e5 {(1:22)} 6.Bg5 {(2:49)} Be7 {(2:48)} 7.Be2 {(0:04)} Ne4 {(2:54)} 8.Bxe7 {(1:13)} Qxe7 {(0:03)} 9.Nbd2 {(1:21)} Nxd2 {(1:00)} 10.Qxd2 {(0:17)} e4 {(2:08)} 11.Ng1 {(1:44)} Be6 {(3:03)} 12.Rc1 {(2:45)} O-O {(2:58)} 13.Bd1 {(1:21)
aditinitya offers a draw.
ciedan declines the draw request.}
13...Qg5 {(5:07)} 14.f3 {(3:40)} Rae8 {(2:55)} 15.fxe4 {(2:16)} Nf6 {(1:10)} 16.Nf3 {(0:15)} Qg6 {(0:10)} 17.O-O {(3:16)} Nxe4 {(7:23)

ciedan(1771) whispers: mhh, two or three moves ago i thought this will be a wipe out with that development, but right now it still feels okay, but not that great}
18.Qe2 {(3:03)} Bg4 {(5:17)} 19.Bc2 {(2:05)} Qe6 {(1:19)} 20.Bxe4 {(2:55)} Qxe4 {(0:28)} 21.Rc3 {(1:49)

ciedan(1771) whispers: and now let's see if I can get my favorite motive into the game playing against a backward pawn on e3

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm, black looks a little better in this simplified position

nemotyro(1858) whispers: What's that: f5?

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Hi sbc!

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hey nemo, others

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: I suppose f5 fixes the weak e3 pawn

KayVee(1634) whispers: but black is leading with his Q - how does play against e3 work? doesnt he need to lead with a lesser piece?

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: also threatens f4, but that isn't hard to deal with}
21...f5 {(5:18)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well at least f5 makes white do something}
22.Qd3 {(3:07)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well this solves the problem KV was talking about, just trade queens

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm Qxd3 Rxd3 Re4 Nd2? Be2}
22...Qxd3 {(2:20)} 23.Rxd3 {(0:11)

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Oh yes, B fork.}
23...f4 {(0:32)

nemotyro(1858) whispers: I'd be inclined to rid the weak e-pawn}
24.exf4 {(1:45)} Rxf4 {(0:20)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well he looks for a different advantage now, with Re2 potentially

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Ng5 invite exchange?

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: check on e2 afterwards loses a rook

ciedan(1771) whispers: okay playing against e3 failed, but I got the more active pieces, but in the end it still looks drawish in nature

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: rather, wins one for black}
25.b3 {(1:52)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm, maybe black can try for a total simplification with Re2 here

nemotyro(1858) whispers: a2 looks very vulnerable

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Re2 Rf2 Bxf3 Rdxf3 Rxf3 gxf3 Rxf2 Kxf2

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm Re2 Rf2 Bxf3 Rdxf3 Rxf3 Rxe2 Rd3 d5 is =

nemotyro(1858) whispers: ok, I didn't see Rf2}
25...Ree4 {(3:14)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: wait, Re2 Rf2 Bxf3 Rdxf3 Re1+ Rf1 Rxf1+ Kxf1 Rxd4

nemotyro(1858) whispers: I thought Black would double his R's}
26.d5 {(0:42)

nemotyro(1858) whispers: ...first on the e-file, then on the 2nd rank

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: trouble was Rfe4 allowed Ng5

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: I think...}
26...Re2 {(0:54)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: maybe not, anyway I would have preferred Re2 before d4-d5

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Here we go with your Rf2}
27.Nd2 {(0:35)

nemotyro(1858) whispers: wow, didn't see that

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: strange move...

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: I think just Rf8 here

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: or maybe Rf7 is a tiny bit more accurate

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Does put the question to r}
27...Bf5 {(2:22)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm, very interesting

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: if this works, white is in big trouble

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Nice move

nemotyro(1858) whispers: RxR BxR Bf2?

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: yes that looks like a defence

ciedan(1771) whispers: I hope that i don't overlook some in between moves, everytime I leave a piece en prise}
28.Rxf4 {(1:45)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well Bxd3 Rf2 Re1+ Nf1 Ra1 seems still to be winning a pawn}
28...Bxd3 {(1:11)} 29.Rf2 {(0:22)} Re1+ {(0:30)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: more to the point, after Nf1 white is tied up}
30.Nf1 {(0:27)} Ra1 {(0:09)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: but I don't see a better way to exploit that than by just going for the a-pawn

KayVee(1634) whispers: doesnt Rf2 cover a pawn?

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: yeah but Bxf1 takes it away

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Bb1

KayVee(1634) whispers: ok

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: also Bb1, which might actually be better

nemotyro(1858) whispers: oh, of course

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: the bishop is better than the knight here, so might as well try to keep it

nemotyro(1858) whispers: But if Bb1 a4

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Bb1 a4 Bd3 g3 Rb1 and the b-pawn falls

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Your BxN seems better

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: always possible to play Bxf1 later}
31.g3 {(2:29)

KayVee(1634) whispers: Bb1 a4 Ba2

nemotyro(1858) whispers: ah because of the pin

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: oh wait...

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Bb1 Nd2 Bxa2 Rf1

nemotyro(1858) whispers: lol, I should concentrate

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: and of all things, the knight traps the bishop

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: so yeah, Bxf1 is better

ciedan(1771) whispers: cant win the pawn :( h3 Bb1 Ne2 and busted taking with the bishop is dead beacause Bxa2+ Rf1 Rxf1 Kf1 and the bishop is trapped same motive the other way around

nemotyro(1858) whispers: that's interesting

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: ciedan sees the issue with Bb1, but he's missing Bxf1

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: rather, missing that the rook has to leave the defence of a2

ciedan(1771) whispers: what is with the pawn ending?

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: pawn ending is at worst drawn for black, might even be winnable...

JoseCapablanca(1979) whispers: yes}
31...Bxf1 {(4:40)} 32.Rxf1 {(0:05)} Rxa2 {(0:02)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: ah, he sees it}
33.Rb1 {(0:05)

JoseCapablanca(1979) whispers: the active Black rook makes me feel it's winnable}
33...Rc2 {(0:10)} 34.h4 {(0:13)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: this should be winning

mcstorytaller(1836) whispers: hi cat!

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Maybe h3 would've been better instead of g3}
34...Kf7 {(0:33)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: g3 to follow with Kg2 was the only way to escape thep in

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: *the pin

nemotyro(1858) whispers: so the K wouldn't be trapped

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: h3 and Kh2 was losing the Nf1}
35.Rf1+ {(0:40)

nemotyro(1858) whispers: then Rf3

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm a little bit of care is needed here}
35...Kg6 {(0:30)

nemotyro(1858) whispers: ...or f2}
36.g4 {(0:31)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: this does not look right, now Rf3-e3 and white has some chances

Nitreb(1459) whispers: Shouldn't B push the a-pawn at some point?

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm, that's not bad either

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Rc3 h5+ Kg5 Rf7

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: and it becomes double edged

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well h5+ Kh6 Rf7 is more likely, but still dangerous}
36...h5 {(1:59)

nemotyro(1858) whispers: yes, I was eyeing f7}
37.g5 {(0:16)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: no better, gxh5+ now}
37...Rb2 {(0:08)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: I won't be too hard on them, rook endgames are immensely difficult

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Rf3, can't afford more pawn loss}
38.Rf3 {(0:32)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: black still has some troubles here, K on g6 is really unfortunate

nemotyro(1858) whispers: At least the K is kinda trapped, like whites}
38...Ra2 {(0:27)

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Nothing left for it but a K move.

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: or Re3 trying for counterplay}
39.Rf1 {(1:04)} Ra3 {(0:16)} 40.Rf3 {(0:03)} a5 {(0:04)

nemotyro(1858) whispers: hmmm, but off the f-file lets loose the K

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: hmm that worked out well for black}
41.Kg2 {(0:08)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: right, it was double-edged to play Re3

nemotyro(1858) whispers: this is better for Black.

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: but this simply looks lost after a4 bxa4 Rxf3 Kxf3 Kf5

KayVee(1634) whispers: why not a4 bx Rxa4?

nemotyro(1858) whispers: maybe Re3.

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: well mainly because I can see that the rook trade wins, KV ;)

KayVee(1634) whispers: oh

nemotyro(1858) whispers: get onto the 7th

KayVee(1634) whispers: thats too much work for me ;)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: however it takes some experience with king and pawn endgames to know that

ciedan(1771) whispers: a4 ba4 Rxf3 Kxf3 Kf5 looks promising

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: yeah ciedan sees it

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: German players always seem to know their endgames ;)}
41...a4 {(3:32)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: to take it a step further a4 bxa4 Rxf3 Kxf3 Kf5 a5 g6 and white must give way

nemotyro(1858) whispers: That proves it, I'm not German. :D

nemotyro(1858) whispers: why not Rxa4

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: or instead of a5 maybe g6 Kxg6 Kf4 to try to complicate, but black can simply play b6 there I think, and eventually Kf6 and g5}
42.bxa4 {(0:54)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: Rxa4 keeps the game going, basically}
42...Rxf3 {(0:23)} 43.Kxf3 {(0:03)} Kf5 {(0:02)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: king and pawn endgames (if you know the theory) are always easiest

KayVee(1634) whispers: I think I see it - The white K can only protect one of the backward pawns

KayVee(1634) whispers: either c4 or h4 - Black can go after the other

nemotyro(1858) whispers: Black has more moves}
44.a5 {(0:28)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: he controls the opposition after g6}
44...g6 {(0:16)

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: and then white is forced to move his king, allowing black to outflank

KayVee(1634) whispers: I saw it after the Rooks came off - just could not visualize while the Rooks were on the board

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: yes I know what you mean

smallblackcat(2074) whispers: at this point it's easy enough to see, the skill lies in seeing how to get here}
{aditinitya resigns} 0-1

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