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araszek(1673) vs. freefal(1588) *

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1.d4 (0:00) d5 (0:00) 2.c4 (0:02) c6 (0:08) 3.e3 (0:06) Bf5 (0:31) 4.Nc3 (0:04) Nf6 (0:06) 5.Nf3 (0:32) e6 (0:31) 6.a3 (3:41) dxc4 (4:08) 7.Bxc4 (2:46) Bd6 (1:07) 8.Bd3 (5:38) Bg6 (2:33) 9.Ne5 (4:06)
araszek(1673) whispers: I feel not so comfortable as I thought, when I saw then I have white pieces ;)
9...Bxe5 (1:42)
araszek(1673) whispers: very rare played with his LSB on this diag and usually I was an initiative
araszek(1673) whispers: *I have
10.Bxg6 (0:58)
araszek(1673) whispers: played too fast :(
10...hxg6 (3:42) 11.dxe5 (0:51) Qxd1+ (0:00) 12.Nxd1 (2:52) Ng4 (0:28) 13.f4 (4:07) Rxh2 (0:43)
araszek(1673) whispers: ugly pos, I have a plan to limit his knight after exchange on h2
14.Rxh2 (1:36) Nxh2 (0:00) 15.Nf2 (0:02)
araszek(1673) whispers: he can take it but it costs doubled pawns - a little compensation
araszek(1673) whispers: and I should think about Q side - he has an advantage there
15...f5 (1:39) 16.Bd2 (3:49)
araszek(1673) whispers: Ke2 Rh1 to force exchange on g4
16...Nd7 (3:29)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: 0-0-0 isnt a bad idea either
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: same idea
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: once that g4 is traded the g4 pawn will be very week..and then the g6 pawn will hurt after g4 falls..its gonna be tough
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: weak*
milpat(2093) whispers: K will pick up triple pawns
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: I guess the question currently is Ke2 or 0-0-0
milpat(2093) whispers: ah, Ne4 will get rid of the Nf2
milpat(2093) whispers: not sure thats better than the triple g though
BuyJupiter(1649) whispers: which is probably why he is thinking Ke2 instead of 0-0-0... keeps it a little closer to the g file.
17.Ke2 (2:58)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: i'd rather a knight over a bishop in this ending, but the rook seems it'll do the most damage
milpat(2093) whispers: after b6/c5 the bishop will look silly
17...Ng4 (1:37)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: sigh
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: now Rh1 comes with tempo
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: Nx Nx Rh1 ke7 Rh4
milpat(2093) whispers: 0-0-0 for black?
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: i prefer ke7
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: to protect g6
18.Nxg4 (1:05) fxg4 (0:00)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: via kf7
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: or maybe just hte immediate kf7 after Rh1
milpat(2093) whispers: :)
19.Rh1 (1:21)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: heres a sneaky idea
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: Kf7 Rh4 g3 Rg4?! (Kg3 would be better) Rh8 Rx Rh1
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: with a really active rook
19...Kf7 (0:43)
freefal(1588) whispers: where is watchbot?
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: he got bored
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: he'll prolly come back ;)
stevelco(1771) whispers: We can't set a record for most comments if Watchbot isn't here
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: :(
BuyJupiter(1649) whispers: GuestYXKF is the Watchbot helper
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: black can def draw this
20.Rd1 (2:21)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: woah lol
stevelco(1771) whispers: White's rook wants to get in amongst 'em
araszek(1673) whispers: I'm not sure if last move was correct - when he place his rook on h file and N on e4 that it may be not good for me
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: my idea is playing c5-c4 with a6 and b5 to follow and then putting the N on d3..i was going to suggest c5!? after Rh4 but this changes things
20...Ke7 (2:09)
araszek(1673) whispers: but I didn't want to use my rook to take only 1 pawn and waste few tempos
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: smart oberservation! the g pawn will fall whenever you want it to fall
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: but how to progress then..play on the queen side is not suggested
stevelco(1771) whispers: Now Pat's idea is stronger ... King to capture tripled pawns
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: Kf2 b5 Kg3 c5 Kx a5....all those tempi..
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: a5 would be super accurate..prolly c4 instead but still
21.Kf2 (3:45)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: wouldnt*
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: that knight needs to be aggressively placed asap..and the d5 square isnt the place..black needs to utilize the light squares
araszek(1673) whispers: without g4 pawn his N on e4 will be easy to chase
21...Rd8 (6:38)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: kg3 Nb6
milpat(2093) whispers: Kg3 Nb6 Bb4+
milpat(2093) whispers: ends on d6
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: Kg3 Nb6 Bb4+ Ke8 Rx Kx Ba5..and i think white can win that king pawn ending
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: actually..Kf7 might be sneaky
milpat(2093) whispers: Kg3 Nc5 perhaps, since Bb4 would not be check
milpat(2093) whispers: so B is pinned and Ne4+ forks
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: oooh nice as well
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: i was was thinking Kf7 with Nxe5+ ideas
22.Bb4+ (7:06) c5 (0:14)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: ...welp not sure f this was good for white
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: but Nc5 ideas are gone lol
milpat(2093) whispers: provoke b6 and how the N progress?
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: c4 Nc5-d3
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: eventually*
milpat(2093) whispers: c4 B back to b4
araszek(1673) whispers: should I exchange ?
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: lol...exchange??
milpat(2093) whispers: B for pawn?
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: i hope not lol
milpat(2093) whispers: :)
stevelco(1771) whispers: Maybe Rxd7 Rxd7 Bxc5
23.Bc3 (3:24)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: phew lol
stevelco(1771) whispers: that's a better idea
araszek(1673) whispers: I'm not sure - I think with exchange I will fight only for draw
23...Nb6 (0:40)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: lol welp
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: Rx Kx Ba5 with a questionable but likely winning king pawn ending
milpat(2093) whispers: Kc7 would be far from kside weakie indeed
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: and on Rx Kx Ba5 Kc7 just Kg3
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: after Kxg4 the e passer is fast after e4-f5
24.Rxd8 (3:14) Kxd8 (0:00)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: im calcing lines..its actually kinda murky
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: basically after trades on f5 the black king will have the d5 square and the white king wont have the f6 square
25.Ba5 (0:44)
milpat(2093) whispers: Ke7
25...Ke7 (0:33)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: actually i think their may be some merit with Kc7
milpat(2093) whispers: nah, too far from crucial action
freefal(1588) whispers: for a guy with 30 mins on his clock, I am making terrible endgame moves
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: sample line Kc7 Bx Kx Kg3 c4 Kxp Kc5 e4 b5 f5 gx ex ex Kx Kd5 e6 Kd6..
milpat(2093) whispers: Kc7 u dont Bx
26.Bxb6 (1:14) axb6 (0:00) 27.Ke2 (0:02)
milpat(2093) whispers: let him waste move
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: ah yes
freefal(1588) whispers: think that was a bad mistake right there
freefal(1588) whispers: if he played a4 he could have locked down my pawn majority
araszek(1673) whispers: I'm safe on K side but cannot left his K side pawns alone
27...b5 (1:07)
araszek(1673) whispers: maybe e5 f5 break after
28.b3 (0:45)
stevelco(1771) whispers: Now that was definitely a mistake
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: well....
freefal(1588) whispers: hmm...think I was locked down anyway because of the doubled pawns
araszek(1673) whispers: should be hard ending and he has an time advantage
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: this is looking closer to a draw
araszek(1673) whispers: *a
freefal(1588) whispers: not sure why he isn't just mopping up my pawns on the king side
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: i only say that because now this past pawn sitch looks sketch
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: white literally cant go get the g pawn now
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: e4-f5 just loses a pawn
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: if im black i go on the offensive...cuz i doubt black can lose here with accurate play
freefal(1588) whispers: this should literally be calculatable to an outcome I think
araszek(1673) whispers: I was wrong - I'm not so safe at Q side as I thought - he has g5 and his king is in the game
araszek(1673) whispers: maybe I should play e4 which allow to play f5 after that
araszek(1673) whispers: or .. g5 x. g3 and after that e4
araszek(1673) whispers: no, this is wrong line ;)
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: g5 is actually an interesting idea
DMjJMD(2022) whispers: but im not sure how strong it is
araszek(1673) whispers: I can close Q side when I take on g5 and place my pawns on g3 and e4, so looks not so wrong
SamuraiGoroh(1778) whispers: g5 here is stockfish's prefered move
SamuraiGoroh(1778) whispers: Worth for about -1.10 though
28...c4 (17:01)
milpat(2093) whispers: c4 premature
29.b4 (2:01)
milpat(2093) whispers: oh my
milpat(2093) whispers: c4 was perfect then
SamuraiGoroh(1778) whispers: g3 is the move now according to stockfish
milpat(2093) whispers: stop ur comp move pls
araszek(1673) whispers: this line gives not so much chances to win, but taking also was risky
araszek(1673) whispers: now he shouldn't has an easy way to invade with his king
freefal lost connection; game adjourned *

Comments

samuraigoroh (2015-05-12): @milpat You likely won't notice this comment, but anyway: With that grammar and the way you say it, it's a bit rude. You may not like bot lines, but they can lead into some interesting lines and there's nothing wrong to comment about them. Your opinion is to avoid them and mine is to mention them. There is no rule that states about how whispers should be. I can understand that just stating the line itself it's not very insightful, but I was going to point why g3 was wanted but it never happened so that line is lost now...

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