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defiled(1808) vs. pompboy(1667) 1/2-1/2

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1.d4 (0:00) d5 (0:00) 2.c4 (0:04) e6 (0:24) 3.Nf3 (0:14) Nf6 (0:31) 4.Bg5 (0:10) Be7 (0:36) 5.e3 (0:15) O-O (0:21) 6.Nc3 (0:09) Nbd7 (0:37) 7.Bd3 (1:30) dxc4 (0:36) 8.Bxc4 (0:05) c5 (0:08) 9.O-O (4:19) cxd4 (2:23) 10.exd4 (0:11) Nd5 (1:33)
Turamon(1704) whispers: Go Defiled! Go Pawn of the Dead!
11.Bxe7 (7:13) Nxe7 (3:39) 12.d5 (2:09) exd5 (1:39) 13.Nxd5 (0:12) Nxd5 (0:12) 14.Bxd5 (0:10) Nf6 (0:37) 15.Bb3 (0:36)
Turamon(1704) whispers: a slightly more developed position for white, hope this turns out as an advantage for my fellow man Defiled. Go Pawn of the Dead!
15...b6 (1:38) 16.Qxd8 (9:01) Rxd8 (0:51) 17.Ne5 (0:09)
Turamon(1704) whispers: o.k. I see some space for the white knight now to cause trouble
Turamon(1704) whispers: lol there it goes
17...Rf8 (1:47) 18.Rac1 (0:54) Bb7 (1:29)
Turamon(1704) whispers: I guess black is not able to prevent the attack on f7 anymore
19.Rfd1 (2:24) Rac8 (2:14) 20.Rxc8 (3:49) Rxc8 (1:38)
Turamon(1704) whispers: looks like Nf7 could win a pawn and then a piece
21.Bxf7+ (3:12)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: not quite
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: backrank weakness meant that Nxf7 was only winning the pawn
21...Kf8 (0:50) 22.Bb3 (0:18)
Turamon(1704) whispers: uhm but moving the knight to d6 then?
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: 21 Nxf7 Bd5! is the defense
Turamon(1704) whispers: ah o.k. ... see I'm tired it's 4 in the morning over here
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: its a tricky one ;)
Turamon(1704) whispers: nevertheless GO PAWN OF THE DEAD! Go Defiled
Turamon(1704) whispers: :-)
22...Bd5 (1:46)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: hmm, Nd7+ almost works here
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: no, silly
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: does nothing really
23.Bxd5 (1:10) Nxd5 (0:04)
Turamon(1704) whispers: ;-)
24.g3 (1:48) Ne7 (1:02)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: hmm that's not a good idea
Turamon(1704) whispers: agreed
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: just creates a backrank threat for white
25.Rd7 (0:59)
Turamon(1704) whispers: what about provking ... yes that's what I was suggesting
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: yes simple move and a good one
Turamon(1704) whispers: you can tell he's a pawn of the dead :)
25...Nc6 (1:28)
Turamon(1704) whispers: ... still loses a pawn
26.Nxc6 (0:25) Rxc6 (0:03) 27.Rxa7 (0:03) Rc2 (0:03) 28.b3 (0:05)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: its fairly dire now for black
Turamon(1704) whispers: agreed
28...Rb2 (1:02) 29.Kg2 (0:21) h6 (0:22) 30.Kf3 (0:08)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: h4-h5 seems like a good idea
30...Rc2 (0:35) 31.h4 (0:21)
Turamon(1704) whispers: yes. but actually there's not a lot black can do ... with the king not being able to move forward ...
31...g6 (0:21) 32.Ke3 (0:19)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: true
32...Rc3+ (0:22) 33.Ke4 (0:17) Rc2 (0:20)
Turamon(1704) whispers: may I ask you some theoretical rule related question hence I guess you're the chief td?
34.Ke3 (2:37)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: sure
34...Rc3+ (0:26)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: though I'm only a deputy to the chief TD ;)
35.Kf4 (0:03) Rc5 (0:59)
Turamon(1704) whispers: o.k. if two players can not agree to a time to play is it possible that they draw without playing? or will the td of the league decide which one has not showed enough effort to make an appointment?
36.g4 (0:26) b5 (0:36)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: they can agree to an unplayed draw, if that's what you mean
Turamon(1704) whispers: yes sorry that's what I've been asking for :) thanks
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: no worries
37.a4 (1:50) bxa4 (0:24) 38.bxa4 (0:04) g5+ (0:13) 39.hxg5 (0:22) hxg5+ (0:05) 40.Kg3 (0:13) Ke8 (0:31)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: Rb7-b5 seems simple enough
Turamon(1704) whispers: agreed
Turamon(1704) whispers: black does not really have any other chance but prolonging the game
41.a5 (2:45) Rc3+ (3:25) 42.f3 (0:24) Ra3 (0:17) 43.a6 (0:08) Ra4 (0:45) 44.Ra8+ (1:16) Kf7 (0:14)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: hmm this isn't ideal
Turamon(1704) whispers: no not for white ... I like the plan better you had some moves ago
Turamon(1704) whispers: but this offers white to trap the black rook if black does not play carefully now
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: I guess he can run the king across to b3, and then up to f5
45.a7 (1:21)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: right, I'm assuming black knows to play Kg7 here
45...Kg7 (0:43) 46.Kf2 (0:07)
Turamon(1704) whispers: at least he starts of to do so ...
46...Ra2+ (0:50) 47.Ke3 (0:04) Ra4 (2:11)
Turamon(1704) whispers: o.k. I'm tired off to bed now. thanks for helping out with that rule related question
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: no problem, bye :)
48.Kd3 (0:16) Ra3+ (2:00)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: I think I see the win here, but its complicated
49.Ke4 (0:08)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: 1) get the king to the b-file, 2) move up to b6 and force black to check from behind, 3) move across to avoid the checks until you get to f5
49...Ra4+ (0:41)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: here it doesn't work cos black checks from the a-file, need to make him check from behind
50.Kd5 (0:08)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: ah well heading for the b-file still works
Jammes(1779) whispers: thats prob nicest. i see an other win. ke6 ra5 rd8 ra6 kf5 and the 2 passers decide
50...Ra3 (1:07) 51.Kc6 (0:21)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: can't black play Ra6+ instead of Ra5 there?
BuyJupiter(1556) whispers: I took a peek at an engine. It showed a solid advantage for white, but I could mess it up easily. :)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: don't trust an engine here
51...Rc3+ (0:37)
BuyJupiter(1556) whispers: yea.
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: an engine doesn't know that if you remove f3 and g5 its a theoretical draw ;)
Jammes(1779) whispers: ah prob right. need to fix it. but i believe here are more than one win. but who knows :)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: well here it should work to play across to f5
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: Kd5-e4-f5
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: or Kd5-e6-f5 if black plays Ra3
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: no hang on...
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: Kd6 is needed, it seems
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: hmm, that isn't quite working
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: black can take on f3 with check at some point
Jammes(1779) whispers: ok lets test my idea again. ke6 ra6 ke7 kh7 kf7 and rook has to move
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: ah I see
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: you force a zugswang, nice
52.Kd5 (3:59)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: but I think white needs to go back to b4, and force the rook off the third rank
52...Rd3+ (0:53) 53.Ke4 (0:39) Ra3 (0:15)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: ah maybe Ke5 works
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: rook must leave the third rank, or king must go to h7
mindlin(2050) whispers: i don't see how he does it
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: nvm just checks again ;)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: this might just be a draw...
mindlin(2050) whispers: if he plays Kb4 now then Ra1 Kc5 and just Ra3 again i think
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: yeah
Jammes(1779) whispers: hmm u think kf5 rxf3 kxg5 is draw?
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: I know its a draw, according to theory
Jammes(1779) whispers: ok :)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: with pawn on a7, R on a8 and black king on g7/h7, an extra g-pawn or h-pawn is just drawn
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: if he could keep the f-pawn instead of the g-pawn, it would win
54.Kf5 (4:16)
Jammes(1779) whispers: ok, i already wondered how to force blacks king out of the way. that its draw explains it
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: well white has no choice but to go for it, and hope black slips up
54...Ra5+ (2:23) pompboy offers a draw. Defiled declines the draw request. 55.Ke4 (0:12)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: hmm, was that working...
Jammes(1779) whispers: but now ke6 works at leas i thought so because after ra3 there was rd8
55...Ra4+ (0:32) pompboy offers a draw.
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: Ke6 Ra6 looked like your line Defiled declines the draw request.
56.Ke3 (0:02)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: I'm not sure Ke7 was forcing Kh7 though
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: 55 Ke6 Ra6+ Ke7 Ra3 again and I still don't see how to make progress
56...Ra3+ (1:01) 57.Kd4 (0:24)
Jammes(1779) whispers: ke6 ra6 ke7 ra3 hmm. complicated
57...Ra4+ (0:33)
Jammes(1779) whispers: i believed u cant allow kf5 when i calculated the line
58.Kc5 (0:33)
Jammes(1779) whispers: painfull draw
Mahog(1742) whispers: na
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: I'm afraid so
58...Ra3 (0:52)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: still plenty of time for black to go wrong though
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: but he seems to know the drawing idea
59.Kb4 (0:40) Ra1 (0:25) 60.Kc4 (0:39)
Mahog(1742) whispers: can't white head for the g5 pawn?
Jammes(1779) whispers: dont know. draw offer doesnt mean much. after a lot of checks many players try their luck to offer draw :)
Jammes(1779) whispers: white isnt making progress so far
Jammes(1779) whispers: at least he should try ke6 idea
Mahog(1742) whispers: go for g5 if Black king move R check?
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: well he keeps returning to Ra3
60...Ra3 (0:43)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: trading g5 for f3 leads to a theoretical draw, though white can still pose problems
61.Kd4 (0:42) Ra4+ (0:51)
Mahog(1742) whispers: e3
62.Ke5 (0:10) Ra5+ (0:30)
bowserJRzhu(1653) whispers: This looks like a draw?
63.Ke6 (3:54) Ra6+ (1:05)
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: it does
Defiled(1808) whispers: just trying to gain time until i have figure this out
Mahog(1742) whispers: Kd2?
Mahog(1742) whispers: watch the repetition
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: black pieces are good
Defiled(1808) whispers: im gonna have to sac a pawn
Mahog(1742) whispers: as in thea pawn
64.Ke5 (1:47) Ra5+ (0:15)
Mahog(1742) whispers: don't spose hiding at g3 works
Jammes(1779) whispers: i want to see if black realy plays ra3 after ke7 :(
bowserJRzhu(1653) whispers: Hmmm... I believe this is the 3rd time this position has appeared.
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: I can only find 2
Jammes(1779) whispers: and if that fails i wannt to see trade f4 against g5 pawn. much to do here. yes but kh7 fails
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: yeah white definitely ought to keep trying
Mahog(1742) whispers: so sac a pawn but first set the King up at g3 get rook to 3rd rank then f4?
65.Kd6 (2:18) Ra6+ (0:12) 66.Kd5 (0:03)
bowserJRzhu(1653) whispers: Isn't f4 pretty much the only option?
bowserJRzhu(1653) whispers: I see no other way of winning.
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: wel
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: *l
Mahog(1742) whispers: f4 then Black rook check is danger
66...Ra5+ (0:41)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: f4 does not win either, technically
67.Kc4 (0:05)
bowserJRzhu(1653) whispers: What else wins, though?
Mahog(1742) whispers: thats why get white rook to 3rd rank before playing f4
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: nothing :)
67...Ra4+ (0:20)
Mahog(1742) whispers: with King at g3
68.Kb3 (0:12)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: all white can do is try to pose problems, but technically its already a draw
68...Ra1 (0:31) 69.Kc3 (0:39) Ra3+ (0:22) 70.Kb2 (0:04)
Jammes(1779) whispers: yep but he s just moving around. for what does he need time with 20 min on clock here. he could start using the 20 minutes :)
70...Ra6 (0:24)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: its cat and mouse
Jammes(1779) whispers: before falling into a threefold
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: maybe black goes crazy and puts his rook in the wrong place ;)
Mahog(1742) whispers: madrook?
Mahog(1742) whispers: hehe
Mahog(1742) whispers: I say head for g3
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: eg Kb3 Rb6+ seems to lose
Mahog(1742) whispers: why not?
71.Re8 (1:09)
Mahog(1742) whispers: it does?
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: black needed to keep his rook close to the a3 square to keep up the defence
Mahog(1742) whispers: I would got Kg3 before Re8
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: its academic now, as white has chosen to give up the a-pawn
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: i would def shuffle around for much longer before cutting off some pieces
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: :p
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: this leads to a fairly easy draw though
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: hey sui, we seem to have swapped ratings ;)
Mahog(1742) whispers: nah that was me
71...Rxa7 (3:35) 72.Re5 (0:06) Kg6 (1:20) pompboy offers a draw. Defiled declines the draw request. 73.Kc2 (0:10)
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: Ra3
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: and keep going between a3 and d3
73...Rf7 (1:02) 74.Re3 (0:13) Rd7 (1:27) 75.Rd3 (0:14)
Mahog(1742) whispers: cmon baby
75...Rf7 (0:16) 76.Kd2 (0:03)
Mahog(1742) whispers: white win here would mean Black's team (highskies) first loss of this TL
76...Kf6 (0:50) 77.Re3 (0:27)
Mahog(1742) whispers: and that'd feel great
77...Rh7 (1:23) 78.Re4 (0:33)
Mahog(1742) whispers: can't allow Rh2with Ke1 eg
Defiled(1808) whispers: man this is brutal
78...Rh2+ (1:34) 79.Ke3 (0:12)
Mahog(1742) whispers: looks a little less like cat and mouse now
79...Rb2 (1:17)
Mahog(1742) whispers: but brain-drain all the same
Mahog(1742) whispers: f4 now?
Jammes(1779) whispers: i would hope that black allows kf5 and playa rd4 or something like that
Jammes(1779) whispers: f4 is last try if nothing works
Mahog(1742) whispers: with rooks on the board hard to queen 1 pawn anyway
Mahog(1742) whispers: if pxp somewhere
Jammes(1779) whispers: yes
Mahog(1742) whispers: somewhere could only be f4 ofc
Mahog(1742) whispers: so what about Rd4 here first?
Mahog(1742) whispers: then get Ke5
Mahog(1742) whispers: trouble
Jammes(1779) whispers: rd4 ke5 rd8 ra3 kf2 kf4 rf8 would be a possible win if black makes wrong moves
Mahog(1742) whispers: good work
80.Rd4 (3:50)
Mahog(1742) whispers: there's prolly motifs to get draw for Black but I ain't sure on it
Mahog(1742) whispers: them
Mahog(1742) whispers: we got the Rd4 bit
Mahog(1742) whispers: only way to get g5 is with the f pawn
80...Rb6 (1:36)
Mahog(1742) whispers: as in gxf then K or R xf
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: this draw is free
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: :p
Mahog(1742) whispers: no charge?
81.f4 (0:34)
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: just a bit of time i guess
Mahog(1742) whispers: finally f4
Mahog(1742) whispers: so gxf Kx or Rx?
Mahog(1742) whispers: K
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: Kx for sure, otherwise Kg5 is an immediate draw
Mahog(1742) whispers: k
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: black isn't confident :p
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: after having played well the entire ending
Suiseiseki(2115) whispers: i guess he doesn't know the theory so this will be interesting
81...gxf4+ (2:39) 82.Kxf4 (0:06) Kg6 (0:28)
Mahog(1742) whispers: what u mean?
Mahog(1742) whispers: seems draw still
smallblackcat(2211) whispers: yep
Mahog(1742) whispers: think white will be feeling the pinch more than Black
Mahog(1742) whispers: thinking he has something
83.Re4 (1:05) Kf6 (1:14) Defiled offers a draw. Game drawn by mutual agreement 1/2-1/2

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