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oldengawy(2150) vs. leboshnitzel(2366) *

{11.Nf3} {(6:50)}
11...O-O {(0:03)} 12.Bg5 {(0:05)} h6 {(1:22)} 13.Bxf6 {(0:02)} Bxf6 {(0:07)} 14.c3 {(0:02)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: what is this? playing for a draw from move 1 with white?}
14...Rfe8 {(2:55)} 15.Qd2 {(0:19)

oldengawy(2150) whispers: disconnect again?!}
15...Re4 {(5:11)

oldengawy(2150) whispers: or thinking}
16.Rfe1 {(0:24)} Rae8 {(2:43)} 17.Rxe4 {(0:04)} Rxe4 {(0:02)} 18.Re1 {(0:41)
oldengawy offers a draw.
leboshnitzel declines the draw request.}
18...Qe6 {(1:11)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: offering a draw on move 18 as white does not inspire confidence. it tells me i already have the advantage, even if the position on the board is objectively (close to) equal.}
19.h3 {(6:14)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: i'll play until there's nothing left in the position against such an opponent}
19...g6 {(3:55)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: since my opponent is afraid to actually play, it's time to play slow.

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: eliminating potential back rank perpetual problems and putting the king on g7 is useful for black.

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: now has to find a way to continue without worsening his position}
20.a4 {(1:31)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: emphasis on play. white has to play chess.}
20...Kg7 {(0:30)} 21.Rxe4 {(2:28)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: the tension on the e-file favors black. white's rook was already stuck on the e-file due to the threat of ...Re2, so i'm not sure why white is adding extra duties to the rook (defending the a-pawn tactically).

Pawnadian(1960) whispers: Black's team is in a tight race for the playoffs. He should play for the win!

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: well, i guess that's reason for a4.

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: =)

milpat(1992) whispers: nah pawnadian, he should resign right now :D

oldengawy(2150) whispers: maybe mouse sleep here Qxe5 :D

oldengawy(2150) whispers: but nothing in e5 :p

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: both moves look good, but i'm going to continue playing slowly and hope for some unforced errors}
21...Qxe4 {(4:48)} 22.Qd1 {(1:22)} Qc4 {(7:07)} 23.Nd4 {(4:04)

milpat(1992) whispers: let me guess, intending Qb3 :P

milpat(1992) whispers: bah, Qb3 Bxd4 QxQ Bxf2}
23...a6 {(5:31)

wmahan(2108) whispers: that might still be ok for white}
24.Qb3 {(1:24)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: we're about to find out

CrazyHunter(1822) whispers: pawn down?}
24...Bxd4 {(0:24)

wmahan(2108) whispers: yes, on second thought I suspect white is just lost

oldengawy(2150) whispers: opps Bxf2}
25.Qxc4 {(0:40)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: ah, he simply missed it}
25...dxc4 {(0:02)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: did black too?

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: i thought he might keep trying to suck out for a draw, but i think he went too far this time.

oldengawy(2150) whispers: at all should qxq}
26.cxd4 {(0:20)} Kf6 {(0:03)

wmahan(2108) whispers: strange

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: the king and pawn endgame looks very promising with absoutlely no risk for black

milpat(1992) whispers: he didnt like white K activity

milpat(1992) whispers: d4 looks like a sucker

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: certainly much more promising than any potential queen ending

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: well I agree with his assessment of this position, but I cannot see why he would trade one tempo for a pawn

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: plus the weak d4 pawn I guess

wmahan(2108) whispers: I thought the black king coould come to e5 and use the extra pawn on the kingside

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: well Kf1 Ke6 Ke2 Kd5 Ke3 a5 looks logical

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: black has an important reserve tempo with c7-c6

milpat(1992) whispers: f3 Ke6 Kf2 Kd5 Ke3 c5, the go catch a-b

milpat(1992) whispers: then* go}
27.Kf1 {(3:26)} Ke6 {(0:03)} 28.Ke2 {(0:02)} Kd5 {(0:01)} 29.Ke3 {(0:02)

wmahan(2108) whispers: if the kings go to d5 and e3 maybe white runs out of moves

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: I wouldn't move a pawn unless there was something clear to be gained by it

milpat(1992) whispers: white K cant move, thats clear

oldengawy(2150) whispers: maybe drawish

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: a5 seems logical, whether the plan is to exhaust tempi or to play c5

oldengawy(2150) whispers: or

milpat(1992) whispers: maybe drawish, what a declaration

milpat(1992) whispers: maybe not :)

milpat(1992) whispers: a5?

oldengawy(2150) whispers: waiting with him by pawns :(

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: a5 h4 h5 and then I don't know

CrazyHunter(1822) whispers: what about c5?

milpat(1992) whispers: trying to get d4 for free ch

milpat(1992) whispers: c5 dx Kxc5 Ke4 Kb4 Kd4

CrazyHunter(1822) whispers: Kb3

milpat(1992) whispers: not sure u gain something at letting go c4 for a4

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: yeah that line doesn't lead anywhere really

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: but if you intend that, its still best to play a5 first :)

anandkvs(2070) whispers: I think a5 takes away one tempo from white, while losing a tempo yourself, so it is logical. However, can white play a5 at some point himself? since black can try Kc6-b5 to win the pawn if white plays a5

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: since c5?! dxc5 Kxc5 allows white to play a5

milpat(1992) whispers: i play a5 just to let white commit kside pawns

milpat(1992) whispers: since u have c6 in bank

wmahan(2108) whispers: it seems that d4 will fall, but I'm not sure what happens after that

milpat(1992) whispers: u throw c4 on b-pawn then excort c7

milpat(1992) whispers: escort

milpat(1992) whispers: sounds faisible?

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: yes

wmahan(2108) whispers: I was thinking if the pawns all get fixed and then Ke2 Kxd4 Kd2 say

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: black can play king around to b4 though

wmahan(2108) whispers: yeah

anandkvs(2070) whispers: if pawns get fixed and black wins d4, his pawn on c6 to c5 to lose one tempo if needed

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: ok, i have a plan. we'll find out if i assessed/calculated white's counterplay soon enough.}
29...a5 {(10:53)

wmahan(2108) whispers: yep, it's hard to see how white can survive

milpat(1992) whispers: will be easier to calculate after we know white's move

milpat(1992) whispers: thats why i like a5 :P

milpat(1992) whispers: kside i mean

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: ... if i calculated white's counterplay correctly is what i meant.

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: if h4 h5 f3 f6 maybe white has to try g4

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: cos otherwise he gets zugswanged by c6 eventually}
30.h4 {(3:52)

anandkvs(2070) whispers: h4 h5 f3 f6 g4 f5 g5 f4 is even possible

anandkvs(2070) whispers: h4 h5 f3 f6 g4 f5 g5 f4 Kxf4 Kxd4 perhaps?

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: well I think c6 instead of f5 there

anandkvs(2070) whispers: yes, probably right

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: h4 h5 f3 f6 g4 f5 gxh5 gxh5 Kf4 etc and its a tempo faster if the pawn is on f5 rather than f6

anandkvs(2070) whispers: just some wacky idea I had

anandkvs(2070) whispers: probably not good

milpat(1992) whispers: f5 may let white K enter later

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: but white can go for h5 instead}
30...h5 {(3:31)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: h5 f3 f6 g4 c6 gxh5 gxh5 Kf4 Kxd4 Kg5 Kd3 Kxh5 Kc2 Kg4 Kxb2 h5 c3 h6 c2 h7 c1=Q h8=Q

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: and that is not check at the end, because of the f6 pawn

CrazyHunter(1822) whispers: zugzwang incoming?

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: so maybe black has some chances in the queen ending there

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: for reasons i'll explain a little later, i wanted to play 30. ... f5, but then 31. Kf4 with the threat of 32. h5 gives white strong counterplay, i think.

anandkvs(2070) whispers: Kg5 is not possible, pawn is on f6

wmahan(2108) whispers: maybe f3 f5 works for black?

anandkvs(2070) whispers: in cat's line, Kg5 is illegal :P

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: ah yes it is!

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: that changes everything

wmahan(2108) whispers: never mind, white still has a couple of extra tempi after f3 f5

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: still I feel vindicated by pointing out that f6-f5 was wrong :P

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: *for pointing out

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: maybe the solution is to play g2-g3-g4

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: f3 f6 g3!? c6 g4 etc

anandkvs(2070) whispers: g2-g3-g4 the problem is f5 after g3 :P

wmahan(2108) whispers: yes

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: well that can be played after f3 too

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: I think white can try g4 there anyway

anandkvs(2070) whispers: well that would give white the spare f4 tempo

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: and he queens with the same number of tempi

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: f3 f6 g3 f5 g4 fxg4 fxg4 hxg4 Kf4 Kxd4 Kxg4 Kd2 Kg5 Kc2 Kxg6 Kxb2 h5 c3 h6 c2 h7 c1 h8

wmahan(2108) whispers: hmm, even after f3 f5 f4 c6 g3 maybe black can just triangluate and win d4

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: g4 on f5 though

wmahan(2108) whispers: I thought black can just take it

wmahan(2108) whispers: it seems black needs 6 tempi to make a queen after capturing d4

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: yeah, but taking on d4 takes a tempo itself :)

wmahan(2108) whispers: indeed

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: white has the move, and can queen in 8 moves

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: so they both will queen in that line, but black still has some play in the queen ending

anandkvs(2070) whispers: I think the queen ending with the a-pawn is drawn, but only in theory :P

anandkvs(2070) whispers: f3 f6 g3 g5 is possible?

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: that is possible...maybe the solution in fact

anandkvs(2070) whispers: wait

anandkvs(2070) whispers: g3 g5 might run into f4

anandkvs(2070) whispers: err

anandkvs(2070) whispers: g4 I mean

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: f4 just g4

anandkvs(2070) whispers: passed h-pawn may be hhard to stop

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: hmm g4...gxh4 gxh5 h3 Kf3 indeed

wmahan(2108) whispers: nice move g4

anandkvs(2070) whispers: f3 f6 g3 g5 g4 hxg4 h5 Ke6 might catch the pawn afer all

anandkvs(2070) whispers: but

anandkvs(2070) whispers: the king goes away from the center

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: also fxg4 there creates a protected passer

wmahan(2108) whispers: this is a lot more complicated than I thought at first

oldengawy(2150) whispers: alot of calc but nothing works}
31.f3 {(17:45)

anandkvs(2070) whispers: f3 f6 g3 g5 g4 hxg4 h5 Ke6 fxg4 f5, then if h6 f4+ and if gxf5 Kxf5 and black is fine I think

oldengawy(2150) whispers: maybe resignable

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: well we can't see the loss yet, so its not resignable ;)}
31...f5 {(1:06)

oldengawy(2150) whispers: oh nightly starts :(

anandkvs(2070) whispers: hrm, black played f5

anandkvs(2070) whispers: doesn't f4 now just draw?

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: so g4

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: f4 is also possible, but then maybe black has something with c5

oldengawy(2150) whispers: oh !

anandkvs(2070) whispers: ah right

anandkvs(2070) whispers: c5 is possible

oldengawy(2150) whispers: g4 maybe

anandkvs(2070) whispers: g4 seems better}
32.g4 {(1:09)

oldengawy(2150) whispers: i hope works

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: well I would have stopped to analyse the c5 line first, but nvm

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: the queen ending that seems to result from this is not necessarily drawn

oldengawy(2150) whispers: promote with us :p

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: yes, i think white needs to go for this (which i didn't realize he could play until after ...h5). otherwise black would simply play ...c3 followed by ...Kc4-b3-a4, picking up the a-pawn.}
32...fxg4 {(1:21)} 33.fxg4 {(0:02)

wmahan(2108) whispers: if the h-pawn queens with the black king on b2, that's check}
33...hxg4 {(0:03)} 34.Kf4 {(0:03)

wmahan(2108) whispers: I'm not sure what that means but it seems relevant

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: the a-pawn variation is why i wanted my pawn on f5. i didn't want him to be able to answer ...Kc4 with Ke4, when he can play Kd5 and go after my c-pawn, trying to queen his d-pawn.}
34...Kxd4 {(0:43)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: yes

anandkvs(2070) whispers: this now seems drawn?

oldengawy(2150) whispers: why he let me play with him :S

anandkvs(2070) whispers: or queen ending

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: drawish, perhaps}
35.Kxg4 {(0:15)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: i couldn't figure out what was happening in that line, so i wanted the pawn on f5 to stop it.}
35...Kd3 {(0:08)} 36.Kg5 {(0:02)} Kc2 {(0:02)

wmahan(2108) whispers: I wouldn't say drawn yet, it's getting interesting}
37.Kxg6 {(0:01)} Kxb2 {(0:01)} 38.h5 {(0:02)} c3 {(0:00)} 39.h6 {(0:01)} c2 {(0:01)} 40.h7 {(0:01)} c1=Q {(0:02)} 41.h8=Q+ {(0:02)} Qc3 {(0:01)

anandkvs(2070) whispers: oh there is c7 as well, forgot

oldengawy(2150) whispers: lets think again :D

anandkvs(2070) whispers: I thought there would be only one pawn left :P

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: i think the bishop pawn gives good winning chances in these endgames

wmahan(2108) whispers: clearly Qh2 fails to Qc2+

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: but maybe i made the win more difficult than it could have been (if it exists at all?)

anandkvs(2070) whispers: I think this is won

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: trouble is that a4 is so weak as well

anandkvs(2070) whispers: 2 pawns and king so far away

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: so probably lost in fact, yes

anandkvs(2070) whispers: c5-c4 etc, and white can do nothing I think

anandkvs(2070) whispers: a4 will fall}
42.Qb8+ {(4:25)
oldengawy offers a draw.

oldengawy(2150) whispers: :p

anandkvs(2070) whispers: Q on c3 protect both a5 and c7 heh

anandkvs(2070) whispers: +s
leboshnitzel declines the draw request.}
42...Ka3 {(2:34)

wmahan(2108) whispers: offering a draw is rather cheeky

WLTL(0) whispers: how about k on a3 , c7c5, qb4 and the c pawn runs

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: why is he offering a draw??? i'm pretty sure i

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: 'm the one with an extra pawn and better king placement, and it's white's pawn that is in danger

Funkmaus(2145) whispers: ginfo 123

Funkmaus(2145) whispers: opps

CrazyHunter(1822) whispers: a true sportsman}
43.Qe8 {(2:47)

wmahan(2108) whispers: I'm pretty sure white's just lost, but I thought that an hour ago

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: haha

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: queen endings are the worst though

oldengawy(2150) whispers: i cant keep the pawn too}
43...c5 {(3:41)

oldengawy(2150) whispers: as a beginer's he choice the hardest way to won !

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: has anyone ever mouse-slipped into a draw before by clicking the wrong button?

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: maybe that's what he wanted

wmahan(2108) whispers: I haven't heard of an accidental draw offer but I'm sure it has happened

Funkmaus(2145) whispers: each check brings +45

Funkmaus(2145) whispers: I think someone resigned by accident.

wmahan(2108) whispers: the problem is there are no checks for white}
44.Qc6 {(4:01)

sighlintschoop(2074) whispers: oldengawy offers draws in lost positions all the time

wmahan(2108) whispers: yeah, in this case I doubt it was an accident

Gorgonian(1928) whispers: tjradd accidentally drew a tl match awhile back}
44...c4 {(0:25)} 45.Kf7 {(0:21)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: i've been playing to pick up his a-pawn, which is nice, but i still have to avoid a perpetual, which is the big problem}
45...Qb3 {(1:01)} 46.Qc5+ {(0:59)} Qb4 {(1:13)} 47.Qg1 {(2:20)

CrazyHunter(1822) whispers: Kxa4 has to be 0-1 right?}
47...Kxa4 {(5:15)} 48.Qa1+ {(1:49)} Qa3 {(0:04)} 49.Qd1+ {(0:06)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: okay, i think this has to be winning. not because i'm up two pawns, but because the a-pawn actually shields a lot of checks}
49...Qb3 {(0:10)

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: the discovery threat is a nice bonus, too. looks like Kf7 wasn't good}
50.Qd4 {(1:23)

oldengawy(2150) whispers: this game remember me my game with " Credit " in tl :D

oldengawy(2150) whispers: but i was won it by luck}
50...Qd3 {(3:35)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: Qd3 seems to end it, Qa1+ Kb4 Kb2+ Kc5 Qf2+ Qd4 and no more checks}
51.Qa1+ {(0:15)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: *Qb2+ of course}
51...Kb4 {(0:05)

oldengawy(2150) whispers: here i hope draw also by luck :p

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: maybe last chance is Qb2+ Kc6 Qa1}
52.Qb2+ {(1:04)} Qb3 {(0:20)} 53.Qd4 {(0:04)

oldengawy(2150) whispers: Qd4 ok offer draw
oldengawy offers a draw.
leboshnitzel declines the draw request.

gentsquash(1785) whispers: I'm wondering if Black's capturing of the White a4 pawn? For now, when Wh threatening to capture a5, it is often with check.

oldengawy(2150) whispers: thats 2nd time in d4

gentsquash(1785) whispers: (Correction) I'm wondering if Black's capturing of the White a4 pawn was a small error? For now, when Wh threatening to capture a5, it is often with check.}
53...a4 {(1:31)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: well, that is balanced by the fact that the a-pawn can advance

gentsquash(1785) whispers: Agreed.

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: if this is a draw, he needs to prove it by perpetual. i don't see where the checks are coming from, especially when i have a discovery set up

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: the white king should move away if anything

gentsquash(1785) whispers: In previous positions, there were several potential threats of Qxa5+}
54.Qd6+ {(1:53)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: Kf8 and if a3 try for more perps}
54...Kc3 {(0:10)

gentsquash(1785) whispers: I agree about the balance.

leboshnitzel(2366) whispers: king goes to a2, then what for white?}
55.Qe5+ {(1:45)} Kc2 {(0:16)

gentsquash(1785) whispers: Oh, that perhaps should have been to f6, a dark square.

gentsquash(1785) whispers: He'd have Qf2+, but doesn't, now.}
56.Qe2+ {(1:19)} Kb1 {(0:06)} 57.Qe1+ {(0:33)} Ka2 {(0:09)} 58.Qd2+ {(0:30)

gentsquash(1785) whispers: Whoa, Qe2+ also attacked the c4 pawn.

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: but black would just give it up}
58...Qb2 {(0:38)

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: Qe2+ Qb2 Qxc4+ Qb3 game over

oldengawy(2150) whispers: maybe!?}
59.Qd5 {(0:18)

anandkvs(2070) whispers: a3 now is possible

smallblackcat(2173) whispers: similarly here, a3 can be considered}
{oldengawy lost connection; game adjourned} *

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