alparslan(2152) vs. rocato(1951) 0-1
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1.e4 (0:00) e5 (0:00) 2.Nf3 (0:02) Nc6 (0:03) 3.Bb5 (0:01) a6 (0:03) 4.Ba4 (0:02) b5 (0:02) 5.Bb3 (0:04) Nf6 (0:02) 6.d3 (12:52)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: lot of time spent there :o is Nf6 so rare?
cstarx(2026) whispers: I am not sure. but I am surprised how much time they spent.
linuxblue(1821) whispers: same. Black has played Norwegian line wit..b5 so soon? 6...Be7 (5:38)
linuxblue(1821) whispers: This is all theory of some sort. 7.O-O (0:12) O-O (0:09) 8.c3 (0:02) d5 (0:07) 9.exd5 (0:26) Nxd5 (0:07) 10.Re1 (0:35) Bg4 (0:12) 11.h3 (0:54) Bh5 (0:05) 12.g4 (0:08) Bg6 (0:07) 13.Nxe5 (0:03) Nxe5 (0:01) 14.Rxe5 (0:02) c6 (0:12) 15.d4 (1:50) Bd6 (0:13)
cstarx(2026) whispers: OMG, I am not feeling so good about white's position here.
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: i am not feeling so good abt taking my exam today 16.Bg5 (2:46)
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: mistell sorry
cstarx(2026) whispers: it is ok. I am not feeling so good about not doing any work for two weeks now. 16...f6 (3:22) 17.Rxd5 (0:06) cxd5 (0:03) 18.Bxd5+ (0:02) Kh8 (0:01) 19.Bxa8 (0:02) Qxa8 (0:01)
RxR(2224) whispers: hmm no need to even consider fxg5?
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps the decision was taken when playing f6
RxR(2224) whispers: and black seems to have great play here
cstarx(2026) whispers: white is two pawns up but under attack.
cstarx(2026) whispers: Bh4 seems fine actually.
RxR(2224) whispers: I cant see anything concrete either
RxR(2224) whispers: still those bishops and diagonals wide open in front of the white king is worth a lot
tjradd(2140) whispers: up two pawns, behind in development and kind-of open. Better be careful
cstarx(2026) whispers: Make sense.
AbdouOrabi(1913) whispers: Be3 Be4 , Nd2 Bh1 , Qf1 is good for white is n't it ?
RxR(2224) whispers: lets say Bh4 Qd5 with the idea Be8-e6
AbdouOrabi(1913) whispers: or at least not bad
RxR(2224) whispers: Be8-*c6 20.Bh4 (8:38)
RxR(2224) whispers: or black could try getting the rook into the attack
RxR(2224) whispers: f5!?
tjradd(2140) whispers: I feel like figuring out how to get the white knight active is the deciding point of the game
tjradd(2140) whispers: if white can do something useful with his knight "soon", he's fine. If he can't, well... :) 20...f5 (3:16)
cstarx(2026) whispers: I would like to play Nd2 here.
tjradd(2140) whispers: sets up Be4-Bf3 ideas
tjradd(2140) whispers: will the knight just live on d2 for a long time?
AbdouOrabi(1913) whispers: White is in critical situation , I don't like to take 2 pawns at have this game . 21.Nd2 (3:32) fxg4 (0:13)
cstarx(2026) whispers: the position looks scary but dont see any attack yet.
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: if i had a chess coach i would beat everyone here;)
cstarx(2026) whispers: I never had any coach.
cstarx(2026) whispers: Coaching is kind of a myth actually.
tjradd(2140) whispers: It helps a lot to have someone guide your studies.
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: yes it does
AbdouOrabi(1913) whispers: I wish white can over come this not because playing good but because he is in my team :D
cstarx(2026) whispers: with 200 rating points more, I believe white will win the game.
cstarx(2026) whispers: It is true that it is much better to have someone to guide your study. But not all of the students can expect to be a strong player by relying on a coach alone.
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: well obvious you rely on coach because the coach is the one who will be teaching? 22.hxg4 (10:18)
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: at the end of the day student should be the one who should understand ?
RxR(2224) whispers: norway has a high school for advanced sports accepting about 15 chesplayers each year. After 3 years at that school with 15 hours+ eaach week of chess coaching the students usually reach 2200 or so, but very few go much beyond that.
cstarx(2026) whispers: very intersting.
cstarx(2026) whispers: I think I agree with the stat here. To go beyond 2300, one needs more.
cstarx(2026) whispers: Anyway why not Qxg4 ?
RxR(2224) whispers: no idea, it was a tough call
RxR(2224) whispers: nice to avoid Bf5 perhaps?
cstarx(2026) whispers: Bf5 then Qg2 ?
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps Qc8 then? I dunno, it was a tough call
cstarx(2026) whispers: I see
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps opening the f file will not lead to much so black should have played Re8 instead of f5? 22...Qd5 (8:25)
RxR(2224) whispers: and of course Be4 was interesting too, placing that bishop in its best diagonal
cstarx(2026) whispers: like you said it is a tough call.
cstarx(2026) whispers: Qe2 here and white seems to be ok ?
tjradd(2140) whispers: I think the best attacking chances would come out of opposite bishops; the knight is doing good work, perhaps it's worth trading 23.Qb3 (1:58)
RxR(2224) whispers: feels like white has made progress over tha last 4-5 moves
cstarx(2026) whispers: agree with tj
tjradd(2140) whispers: maybe Qb7, Bf7, Bd5, Qf7 (struggling to come up with plan)
cstarx(2026) whispers: agree with tj
tjradd(2140) whispers: maybe Qb7, Bf7, Bd5, Qf7 (struggling to come up with plan) 23...Qc6 (1:48)
tjradd(2140) whispers: maybe Qb7, Bf7, Bd5, Qf7, Bf4 and take the N, Qf3, mate on g2 or h1 :p
cstarx(2026) whispers: Qb3! very good.
RxR(2224) whispers: right, black probably missed Qb3 when playing Qd5 last move
RxR(2224) whispers: although Bf4 next is unpleasant
cstarx(2026) whispers: but seems like it is not easy for white to develop ?
cstarx(2026) whispers: yep, how to deal with Bf4 ?
cstarx(2026) whispers: I think worst case, white still has an option of Bg3 24.c4 (3:19)
cstarx(2026) whispers: does not look like white is afraid of open up the position. 24...Bf4 (1:12)
tjradd(2140) whispers: think Qc6 was a serious error
tjradd(2140) whispers: but :)
tjradd(2140) whispers: c4 might give in to some Qd7 tactics 25.Qb4 (2:59) Re8 (0:46)
cstarx(2026) whispers: white is already short on time.
cstarx(2026) whispers: I am not sure about c4. but the position looks dangerous for white.
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Very nice game
RxR(2224) whispers: very nice long term double pawn sac 26.d5 (2:40)
tjradd(2140) whispers: I would've liked mroe time on that move, hmm 26...Qd7 (0:27) 27.c5 (1:17)
RxR(2224) whispers: with the queen missing in action, this looks dangerous for white again
cstarx(2026) whispers: OMG, my team is doing well this round.
cstarx(2026) whispers: * is not
RxR(2224) whispers: now Bxd2 Qxd2 Qxg4 Bg3 Be4 looks very dangerous
cstarx(2026) whispers: like tj said before, now black can choose to have BOP.
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps white can sac the exchange on e4 there though with Re1 Qf3 Rxe4
cstarx(2026) whispers: yep, looks like it is going that way.
tjradd(2140) whispers: I don't get it
RxR(2224) whispers: what dont you get?
cstarx(2026) whispers: I meant black can choose to play Bishop Opposite colors with an attack like you suggested before.
tjradd(2140) whispers: It looks like Bd2 Qd2 Qg4 is just killing
RxR(2224) whispers: I dont see how it wins
cstarx(2026) whispers: I thought you did not understand my english. :-P 27...Bxd2 (8:46)
RxR(2224) whispers: lets say Bd2 Qxd2 Qxg4 Bg3 Be4 Re1 Qf3 Rxe4
cstarx(2026) whispers: dont see the win either. 28.Qxd2 (0:17) Qxg4+ (0:01) 29.Bg3 (0:03)
tjradd(2140) whispers: perhaps Qf3 first
cstarx(2026) whispers: but may be may be
cstarx(2026) whispers: like after that black can try the idea of Re2
cstarx(2026) whispers: and Qe4 .
cstarx(2026) whispers: you know those are very strong.
RxR(2224) whispers: Qf3 is a try
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: After Qf3 I think you need to play for the queen exchange since Be4 next looks terribly strong
RxR(2224) whispers: qf3 re1 rxe1 qxe1 be4 Kf1 perhaps?
cstarx(2026) whispers: I like Be4.
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Qf3 Re1 Be4, what does white play?
RxR(2224) whispers: Qf3 Re1 Be4 Rxe4
RxR(2224) whispers: c5 and d5 are dangerous once blacks attack fades just a little bit
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Seems strong, but you need to calculate it
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: If the K arrives in time to block those pawns I favour black 29...Qf3 (5:14)
RxR(2224) whispers: intuitively I think black should settle for a draw with Qf3 Re1 Rxe1 Qxe4 Be4 Kf1 Bf3+ Kg1 Be4 etc
RxR(2224) whispers: but of course laurentius is correct Re1 Be4 Rxe4 must be calculated
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Even in your Rxe1 line, can't white simply take on d5 and play on?
tjradd(2140) whispers: yes but I'm not sure black has an advantage there :p
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Eh, white can force an opp bisop endgame with Qd8+
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Lol, I'm mixing lines
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Nevermind
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps Qf4 Qxd5 is playable, if white wants to risk playing on
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Qf4 now?
tjradd(2140) whispers: based on clock, hrm might be time for white to cash out :) 30.Qd1 (4:07)
tjradd(2140) whispers: Re2 lezgo
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Re2 here perhaps
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: with Be4 next 30...Re2 (0:41)
RxR(2224) whispers: now Qb3
Aneirin(1862) whispers: scary
RxR(2224) whispers: now Qb3
Aneirin(1862) whispers: scary
tjradd(2140) whispers: still threats with Qh5
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Qb3 Qh5
RxR(2224) whispers: still Qb3 Qh5 - right
RxR(2224) whispers: so Qd1 was very risky. Although perhaps white clearly saw Re1 Be4 Rxe4 as winning for black
tjradd(2140) whispers: black's position looks much better than it did 6 moves ago :)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: clock indeed not helping either, at this point. 31.Qb3 (3:48)
tjradd(2140) whispers: Qf1 Be4 Qh3 is weird, but stops m1 and wins a tempo (for what?) 31...Qh5 (0:29)
Alparslan(2152) whispers: Thought about sacing the queen with 31.Qxe2, but couldn't see anything clear :(
RxR(2224) whispers: even thinking about that queen sac is a sign :)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: after Be4 he has Bh2 to defend.. a little
tjradd(2140) whispers: there, black has the choice to just take on d5 if he wants
RxR(2224) whispers: another problem is if black just wins d5 now, he has a free attack
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: d6 and start praying:) 32.c6 (2:35) Be4 (0:35) 33.Bh2 (0:02)
tjradd(2140) whispers: well now Bxd5 can be met by c7
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Or this, which seems like a weaker version since d5 will be en prise to Be4
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: No time for c7, since b3 is en prise, I think
Aneirin(1862) whispers: but then also c8=8.. it gets complicated :)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: *Q 33...Bxd5 (1:23)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: basically, by promoting he would lose pawn :)
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Re8 simply
cstarx(2026) whispers: even this is the first round, but this one might not be my TL
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Lose both pawns and still be under attack
Aneirin(1862) whispers: yes, indeed
RxR(2224) whispers: lol right
cstarx(2026) whispers: Last time my team went to a final and blew it.
Aneirin(1862) whispers: actually, c8=Q+ Bg7 and probably +/- ?
RxR(2224) whispers: or Re8 instead of Bg8 there?
Aneirin(1862) whispers: well, Re8 does the same
Aneirin(1862) whispers: yeah
cstarx(2026) whispers: white is winning. Re8 is better I think.
cstarx(2026) whispers: sorry, I mean black. 34.c7 (2:12)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: either way, looks like c7 would not be the way to go here, then.. so is there an alternative
Aneirin(1862) whispers: moot point :)
RxR(2224) whispers: but lots of play left
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Sacking the queen for rook and bishop does not look too promising on Re8
antiseptic(1894) whispers: Bxb3?
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: I doubt you can hold a fortress with pawns on both sides
cstarx(2026) whispers: the problem is which one is a better english: sacing or sacking ?
tjradd(2140) whispers: wouldn't want to have to play white's position with 1:49 + 45 inc :)
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Probably saccing:P 34...Bxb3 (4:48) 35.c8=Q+ (0:06) Bg8 (0:03)
tjradd(2140) whispers: interesting decision
antiseptic(1894) whispers: better Re8?
tjradd(2140) whispers: probably worth more than 2.5 s :)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: part of the 5min he spent on Bxb3 though, I reckon :) 36.Qc3 (1:53)
cstarx(2026) whispers: right, it is not a formal english anyway. 36...h6 (0:28) 37.Rc1 (0:42)
tjradd(2140) whispers: Qg5 leading anywhere?
antiseptic(1894) whispers: what about 36...Bc4? 37...Bd5 (0:32)
tjradd(2140) whispers: white has to be dead
cstarx(2026) whispers: everyone likes to watch a play in time trouble.
cstarx(2026) whispers: so much drama. 38.Qg3 (1:03)
antiseptic(1894) whispers: black plays too fast :)
cstarx(2026) whispers: Qe8 38...Qe8 (0:35)
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Re6-g6 also 39.Qc3 (0:14)
cstarx(2026) whispers: Qe4
Aneirin(1862) whispers: Qe4 incoming 39...Qg6+ (0:13)
tjradd(2140) whispers: why is black blitzing
antiseptic(1894) whispers: again, so fast ...
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Nice, Kf1 Bc4
cstarx(2026) whispers: may be he is getting too excited. 40.Bg3 (0:33) Qe4 (1:20)
RxR(2224) whispers: this looks crushing
Gorgonian(1604) whispers: because white is out of time
Aneirin(1862) whispers: Qc8-h3 :)
RxR(2224) whispers: qc8 kh7 qc2 is natural but then re1 41.Kf1 (1:08)
tjradd(2140) whispers: well atm R/e2
tjradd(2140) whispers: I think Qh5 was better than Qe4
tjradd(2140) whispers: repeat if you must, but then recycle rook
tjradd(2140) whispers: this seems to lose a lot of time for black 41...b4 (2:11)
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Good move 42.Qc8+ (0:54) Kh7 (0:03)
antiseptic(1894) whispers: yes 43.Qxa6 (0:19) Rxb2 (0:04)
antiseptic(1894) whispers: amen
Aneirin(1862) whispers: oh dear
RxR(2224) whispers: what a superb game!
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Yeah, very nice
Aneirin(1862) whispers: fantastic indeed
cstarx(2026) whispers: phoenix is going down, arghhh.
cstarx(2026) whispers: well play by rocato.
Aneirin(1862) whispers: will rise from the ashes next week
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: You coudln't hold it, could you:P?
Aneirin(1862) whispers: it was too obvious :) 44.Qb5 (1:23) Alparslan checkmated 0-1
Aneirin(1862) whispers: lot of time spent there :o is Nf6 so rare?
cstarx(2026) whispers: I am not sure. but I am surprised how much time they spent.
linuxblue(1821) whispers: same. Black has played Norwegian line wit..b5 so soon? 6...Be7 (5:38)
linuxblue(1821) whispers: This is all theory of some sort. 7.O-O (0:12) O-O (0:09) 8.c3 (0:02) d5 (0:07) 9.exd5 (0:26) Nxd5 (0:07) 10.Re1 (0:35) Bg4 (0:12) 11.h3 (0:54) Bh5 (0:05) 12.g4 (0:08) Bg6 (0:07) 13.Nxe5 (0:03) Nxe5 (0:01) 14.Rxe5 (0:02) c6 (0:12) 15.d4 (1:50) Bd6 (0:13)
cstarx(2026) whispers: OMG, I am not feeling so good about white's position here.
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: i am not feeling so good abt taking my exam today 16.Bg5 (2:46)
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: mistell sorry
cstarx(2026) whispers: it is ok. I am not feeling so good about not doing any work for two weeks now. 16...f6 (3:22) 17.Rxd5 (0:06) cxd5 (0:03) 18.Bxd5+ (0:02) Kh8 (0:01) 19.Bxa8 (0:02) Qxa8 (0:01)
RxR(2224) whispers: hmm no need to even consider fxg5?
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps the decision was taken when playing f6
RxR(2224) whispers: and black seems to have great play here
cstarx(2026) whispers: white is two pawns up but under attack.
cstarx(2026) whispers: Bh4 seems fine actually.
RxR(2224) whispers: I cant see anything concrete either
RxR(2224) whispers: still those bishops and diagonals wide open in front of the white king is worth a lot
tjradd(2140) whispers: up two pawns, behind in development and kind-of open. Better be careful
cstarx(2026) whispers: Make sense.
AbdouOrabi(1913) whispers: Be3 Be4 , Nd2 Bh1 , Qf1 is good for white is n't it ?
RxR(2224) whispers: lets say Bh4 Qd5 with the idea Be8-e6
AbdouOrabi(1913) whispers: or at least not bad
RxR(2224) whispers: Be8-*c6 20.Bh4 (8:38)
RxR(2224) whispers: or black could try getting the rook into the attack
RxR(2224) whispers: f5!?
tjradd(2140) whispers: I feel like figuring out how to get the white knight active is the deciding point of the game
tjradd(2140) whispers: if white can do something useful with his knight "soon", he's fine. If he can't, well... :) 20...f5 (3:16)
cstarx(2026) whispers: I would like to play Nd2 here.
tjradd(2140) whispers: sets up Be4-Bf3 ideas
tjradd(2140) whispers: will the knight just live on d2 for a long time?
AbdouOrabi(1913) whispers: White is in critical situation , I don't like to take 2 pawns at have this game . 21.Nd2 (3:32) fxg4 (0:13)
cstarx(2026) whispers: the position looks scary but dont see any attack yet.
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: if i had a chess coach i would beat everyone here;)
cstarx(2026) whispers: I never had any coach.
cstarx(2026) whispers: Coaching is kind of a myth actually.
tjradd(2140) whispers: It helps a lot to have someone guide your studies.
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: yes it does
AbdouOrabi(1913) whispers: I wish white can over come this not because playing good but because he is in my team :D
cstarx(2026) whispers: with 200 rating points more, I believe white will win the game.
cstarx(2026) whispers: It is true that it is much better to have someone to guide your study. But not all of the students can expect to be a strong player by relying on a coach alone.
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: well obvious you rely on coach because the coach is the one who will be teaching? 22.hxg4 (10:18)
Hathkhola(1713) whispers: at the end of the day student should be the one who should understand ?
RxR(2224) whispers: norway has a high school for advanced sports accepting about 15 chesplayers each year. After 3 years at that school with 15 hours+ eaach week of chess coaching the students usually reach 2200 or so, but very few go much beyond that.
cstarx(2026) whispers: very intersting.
cstarx(2026) whispers: I think I agree with the stat here. To go beyond 2300, one needs more.
cstarx(2026) whispers: Anyway why not Qxg4 ?
RxR(2224) whispers: no idea, it was a tough call
RxR(2224) whispers: nice to avoid Bf5 perhaps?
cstarx(2026) whispers: Bf5 then Qg2 ?
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps Qc8 then? I dunno, it was a tough call
cstarx(2026) whispers: I see
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps opening the f file will not lead to much so black should have played Re8 instead of f5? 22...Qd5 (8:25)
RxR(2224) whispers: and of course Be4 was interesting too, placing that bishop in its best diagonal
cstarx(2026) whispers: like you said it is a tough call.
cstarx(2026) whispers: Qe2 here and white seems to be ok ?
tjradd(2140) whispers: I think the best attacking chances would come out of opposite bishops; the knight is doing good work, perhaps it's worth trading 23.Qb3 (1:58)
RxR(2224) whispers: feels like white has made progress over tha last 4-5 moves
cstarx(2026) whispers: agree with tj
tjradd(2140) whispers: maybe Qb7, Bf7, Bd5, Qf7 (struggling to come up with plan)
cstarx(2026) whispers: agree with tj
tjradd(2140) whispers: maybe Qb7, Bf7, Bd5, Qf7 (struggling to come up with plan) 23...Qc6 (1:48)
tjradd(2140) whispers: maybe Qb7, Bf7, Bd5, Qf7, Bf4 and take the N, Qf3, mate on g2 or h1 :p
cstarx(2026) whispers: Qb3! very good.
RxR(2224) whispers: right, black probably missed Qb3 when playing Qd5 last move
RxR(2224) whispers: although Bf4 next is unpleasant
cstarx(2026) whispers: but seems like it is not easy for white to develop ?
cstarx(2026) whispers: yep, how to deal with Bf4 ?
cstarx(2026) whispers: I think worst case, white still has an option of Bg3 24.c4 (3:19)
cstarx(2026) whispers: does not look like white is afraid of open up the position. 24...Bf4 (1:12)
tjradd(2140) whispers: think Qc6 was a serious error
tjradd(2140) whispers: but :)
tjradd(2140) whispers: c4 might give in to some Qd7 tactics 25.Qb4 (2:59) Re8 (0:46)
cstarx(2026) whispers: white is already short on time.
cstarx(2026) whispers: I am not sure about c4. but the position looks dangerous for white.
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Very nice game
RxR(2224) whispers: very nice long term double pawn sac 26.d5 (2:40)
tjradd(2140) whispers: I would've liked mroe time on that move, hmm 26...Qd7 (0:27) 27.c5 (1:17)
RxR(2224) whispers: with the queen missing in action, this looks dangerous for white again
cstarx(2026) whispers: OMG, my team is doing well this round.
cstarx(2026) whispers: * is not
RxR(2224) whispers: now Bxd2 Qxd2 Qxg4 Bg3 Be4 looks very dangerous
cstarx(2026) whispers: like tj said before, now black can choose to have BOP.
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps white can sac the exchange on e4 there though with Re1 Qf3 Rxe4
cstarx(2026) whispers: yep, looks like it is going that way.
tjradd(2140) whispers: I don't get it
RxR(2224) whispers: what dont you get?
cstarx(2026) whispers: I meant black can choose to play Bishop Opposite colors with an attack like you suggested before.
tjradd(2140) whispers: It looks like Bd2 Qd2 Qg4 is just killing
RxR(2224) whispers: I dont see how it wins
cstarx(2026) whispers: I thought you did not understand my english. :-P 27...Bxd2 (8:46)
RxR(2224) whispers: lets say Bd2 Qxd2 Qxg4 Bg3 Be4 Re1 Qf3 Rxe4
cstarx(2026) whispers: dont see the win either. 28.Qxd2 (0:17) Qxg4+ (0:01) 29.Bg3 (0:03)
tjradd(2140) whispers: perhaps Qf3 first
cstarx(2026) whispers: but may be may be
cstarx(2026) whispers: like after that black can try the idea of Re2
cstarx(2026) whispers: and Qe4 .
cstarx(2026) whispers: you know those are very strong.
RxR(2224) whispers: Qf3 is a try
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: After Qf3 I think you need to play for the queen exchange since Be4 next looks terribly strong
RxR(2224) whispers: qf3 re1 rxe1 qxe1 be4 Kf1 perhaps?
cstarx(2026) whispers: I like Be4.
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Qf3 Re1 Be4, what does white play?
RxR(2224) whispers: Qf3 Re1 Be4 Rxe4
RxR(2224) whispers: c5 and d5 are dangerous once blacks attack fades just a little bit
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Seems strong, but you need to calculate it
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: If the K arrives in time to block those pawns I favour black 29...Qf3 (5:14)
RxR(2224) whispers: intuitively I think black should settle for a draw with Qf3 Re1 Rxe1 Qxe4 Be4 Kf1 Bf3+ Kg1 Be4 etc
RxR(2224) whispers: but of course laurentius is correct Re1 Be4 Rxe4 must be calculated
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Even in your Rxe1 line, can't white simply take on d5 and play on?
tjradd(2140) whispers: yes but I'm not sure black has an advantage there :p
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Eh, white can force an opp bisop endgame with Qd8+
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Lol, I'm mixing lines
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Nevermind
RxR(2224) whispers: perhaps Qf4 Qxd5 is playable, if white wants to risk playing on
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Qf4 now?
tjradd(2140) whispers: based on clock, hrm might be time for white to cash out :) 30.Qd1 (4:07)
tjradd(2140) whispers: Re2 lezgo
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Re2 here perhaps
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: with Be4 next 30...Re2 (0:41)
RxR(2224) whispers: now Qb3
Aneirin(1862) whispers: scary
RxR(2224) whispers: now Qb3
Aneirin(1862) whispers: scary
tjradd(2140) whispers: still threats with Qh5
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Qb3 Qh5
RxR(2224) whispers: still Qb3 Qh5 - right
RxR(2224) whispers: so Qd1 was very risky. Although perhaps white clearly saw Re1 Be4 Rxe4 as winning for black
tjradd(2140) whispers: black's position looks much better than it did 6 moves ago :)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: clock indeed not helping either, at this point. 31.Qb3 (3:48)
tjradd(2140) whispers: Qf1 Be4 Qh3 is weird, but stops m1 and wins a tempo (for what?) 31...Qh5 (0:29)
Alparslan(2152) whispers: Thought about sacing the queen with 31.Qxe2, but couldn't see anything clear :(
RxR(2224) whispers: even thinking about that queen sac is a sign :)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: after Be4 he has Bh2 to defend.. a little
tjradd(2140) whispers: there, black has the choice to just take on d5 if he wants
RxR(2224) whispers: another problem is if black just wins d5 now, he has a free attack
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: d6 and start praying:) 32.c6 (2:35) Be4 (0:35) 33.Bh2 (0:02)
tjradd(2140) whispers: well now Bxd5 can be met by c7
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Or this, which seems like a weaker version since d5 will be en prise to Be4
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: No time for c7, since b3 is en prise, I think
Aneirin(1862) whispers: but then also c8=8.. it gets complicated :)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: *Q 33...Bxd5 (1:23)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: basically, by promoting he would lose pawn :)
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Re8 simply
cstarx(2026) whispers: even this is the first round, but this one might not be my TL
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Lose both pawns and still be under attack
Aneirin(1862) whispers: yes, indeed
RxR(2224) whispers: lol right
cstarx(2026) whispers: Last time my team went to a final and blew it.
Aneirin(1862) whispers: actually, c8=Q+ Bg7 and probably +/- ?
RxR(2224) whispers: or Re8 instead of Bg8 there?
Aneirin(1862) whispers: well, Re8 does the same
Aneirin(1862) whispers: yeah
cstarx(2026) whispers: white is winning. Re8 is better I think.
cstarx(2026) whispers: sorry, I mean black. 34.c7 (2:12)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: either way, looks like c7 would not be the way to go here, then.. so is there an alternative
Aneirin(1862) whispers: moot point :)
RxR(2224) whispers: but lots of play left
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Sacking the queen for rook and bishop does not look too promising on Re8
antiseptic(1894) whispers: Bxb3?
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: I doubt you can hold a fortress with pawns on both sides
cstarx(2026) whispers: the problem is which one is a better english: sacing or sacking ?
tjradd(2140) whispers: wouldn't want to have to play white's position with 1:49 + 45 inc :)
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Probably saccing:P 34...Bxb3 (4:48) 35.c8=Q+ (0:06) Bg8 (0:03)
tjradd(2140) whispers: interesting decision
antiseptic(1894) whispers: better Re8?
tjradd(2140) whispers: probably worth more than 2.5 s :)
Aneirin(1862) whispers: part of the 5min he spent on Bxb3 though, I reckon :) 36.Qc3 (1:53)
cstarx(2026) whispers: right, it is not a formal english anyway. 36...h6 (0:28) 37.Rc1 (0:42)
tjradd(2140) whispers: Qg5 leading anywhere?
antiseptic(1894) whispers: what about 36...Bc4? 37...Bd5 (0:32)
tjradd(2140) whispers: white has to be dead
cstarx(2026) whispers: everyone likes to watch a play in time trouble.
cstarx(2026) whispers: so much drama. 38.Qg3 (1:03)
antiseptic(1894) whispers: black plays too fast :)
cstarx(2026) whispers: Qe8 38...Qe8 (0:35)
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Re6-g6 also 39.Qc3 (0:14)
cstarx(2026) whispers: Qe4
Aneirin(1862) whispers: Qe4 incoming 39...Qg6+ (0:13)
tjradd(2140) whispers: why is black blitzing
antiseptic(1894) whispers: again, so fast ...
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Nice, Kf1 Bc4
cstarx(2026) whispers: may be he is getting too excited. 40.Bg3 (0:33) Qe4 (1:20)
RxR(2224) whispers: this looks crushing
Gorgonian(1604) whispers: because white is out of time
Aneirin(1862) whispers: Qc8-h3 :)
RxR(2224) whispers: qc8 kh7 qc2 is natural but then re1 41.Kf1 (1:08)
tjradd(2140) whispers: well atm R/e2
tjradd(2140) whispers: I think Qh5 was better than Qe4
tjradd(2140) whispers: repeat if you must, but then recycle rook
tjradd(2140) whispers: this seems to lose a lot of time for black 41...b4 (2:11)
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Good move 42.Qc8+ (0:54) Kh7 (0:03)
antiseptic(1894) whispers: yes 43.Qxa6 (0:19) Rxb2 (0:04)
antiseptic(1894) whispers: amen
Aneirin(1862) whispers: oh dear
RxR(2224) whispers: what a superb game!
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: Yeah, very nice
Aneirin(1862) whispers: fantastic indeed
cstarx(2026) whispers: phoenix is going down, arghhh.
cstarx(2026) whispers: well play by rocato.
Aneirin(1862) whispers: will rise from the ashes next week
LaurentiuI(1926) whispers: You coudln't hold it, could you:P?
Aneirin(1862) whispers: it was too obvious :) 44.Qb5 (1:23) Alparslan checkmated 0-1
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