qauz(1975) vs. rocato(1922) 0-1
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tjradd(2092) whispers: not a good league for happy fun :)
tjradd(2092) whispers: oh well :) 2...Nc6 (3:43) 3.d4 (0:14)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: That league was good only for MFO and Flaming :) 3...cxd4 (0:04) 4.Nxd4 (0:02) Nf6 (0:04)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Too early decided everything in the Spassky section 5.Nc3 (0:11)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: ...e5 just for the thrill 5...d6 (0:10)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: boooh
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: i will come back here few minutes later 6.Bg5 (0:15) Qa5 (0:06)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: earlier the Bg5 move was considered as a refutation of Najdorf as it prevents the ...e5
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: earlier is like in the 1800-1900, lol
tjradd(2092) whispers: I think Funkmaus is a caro expert
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Yeah im clueless about sizilian
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: go qauz!
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: cheering the ones beaten you?
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: exactly~
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: lol id hate :p
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: they've earned it :o
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: go rocato!! (brazilian) :)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: earned is nothing, just hate :o
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: umm :<
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: rocato has lived in the brazilian capital of reggae
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: its near caribean islands
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: isnt the next world cup soccer is in brazil?
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: yep :)
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: 2014
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: brazil will be good 7.Bxf6 (9:09)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: wow it goes there where it belongs
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: yeah very good 7...gxf6 (0:06)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: dynamical trade
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: last time it happens we lost to uruguay in 1950
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: and you guys lost to holland in semifinal in wc2010
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: hmpffff
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: :))
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: but back in than it was hard for any team to beat brazil 8.g3 (1:27)
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: first time I gone to a pub like l=place to watch to a soccer game and we lost :(
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: i am sorry i should take this to ch 34 it is not acceptable here
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: yep sorry everybody
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: there have been worse deviations :p
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: not that i'm interested~ 8...h5 (1:09)
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: well... this happened cause rocato is brazilian
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: :) 9.h3 (0:53) Bg7 (5:45)
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: reminds me of trompowsky
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: some key differences perhaps :p 10.Nb3 (2:19)
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: according to this opening it says white going to castle queen side 10...Qc7 (1:09) 11.Nd5 (6:00) Qb8 (0:16) 12.c3 (1:44) f5 (0:12) 13.exf5 (0:21) Bxf5 (0:07) 14.Bg2 (0:09)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: anything on the line in this game?
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: the schemes get going..
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: well playoffs are already decided for this section~ :<
WMKnight(1725) whispers: k, was just curious.
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: but we could say white has to win for moral rights, i guess :p
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: team losing 2-1
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: lol he has hidden the queen there
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: where black is going to castle?
WMKnight(1725) whispers: is it worth to kick the d5 knight, with e6? 14...e6 (4:05)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: guess so
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: here is ur reply :p
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: ne3
WMKnight(1725) whispers: or Nf4
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: hey qe2! it isnt going (ye
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: ne3 is good dont have to move twice
WMKnight(1725) whispers: whay would have to move twice with Nf4?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: lol
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: e5
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: f4 is the square
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: might get dangerous if black castle there
WMKnight(1725) whispers: e5, Nd5
WMKnight(1725) whispers: thank you for the nice square back
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: nah no e5, never
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: this will be fun~ :o
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: thats a positional death
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: d5 more likely
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: no he said why move twice? i said if e5 played your knight is move twice
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: simple answer
WMKnight(1725) whispers: agreed, the point of e6 was to kcik the knight from d5
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: i dont care about positional death 15.Ne3 (2:32) Bg6 (0:05)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: I would move that N 5 times in a row to gain a square d5 in that sequence
WMKnight(1725) whispers: e6, Nf4, e5 would be silly because you give the knight the d5 square again which is a great spot for the knight
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: I agree WM ;)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: also Nf4 sort of prevents black form caslting short, even though I dont think they have plans of that
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: whay would have to move twice with Nf4? this was the question
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: haha, i wanted f4-f5 but it fails to Qxg3
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: i think b castles :p 16.Qe2 (1:35) O-O (0:18)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: good call
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: quick! :o
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: white should go 0-0-0
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Hathkhola, you said Ne3, and I said Nf4, you said no, not Nf4 because you have to move your knight twice... that was your reasoning, at which time I asked why would you have to move knight twice, and you said e5 and I said thank you for Nd5
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: nf4 and than e5 makes your knight move twice doesnt it?
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: I was saying Qe2 instead of Ne3, so I would not have to move any N away without the invitation, or another wasted move
WMKnight(1725) whispers: yes, indeed
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: so you got your answer
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: on 0-0 the Nf4 would make much more sense
WMKnight(1725) whispers: thank you
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: anything wrong with that?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: lol
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: e5 should only be played after d5
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: if at all :<
tjradd(2092) whispers: I like Bf3
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Bf3 Ne5 Bxh5 BxB Qxh5 Nd3+
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: not sure i like it
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: my initial thought too ;)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: maybe o-o first?
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: well it has time the option of going another side if things explode
WMKnight(1725) whispers: perhaps h4, to stop h4 by black
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: oh black isnt going to play into gxh4
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: thats suicide 17.Bf3 (3:22)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: here is entertaining
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: h4 is blitz move :p
WMKnight(1725) whispers: with Funks line of Ne5, Bxh5, BxB, QxB, Nd4+ what to do with white king
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: Ne5 has to be best~
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: thats the question what. Kf1 looks safest
tjradd(2092) whispers: don't have to meet Ne5 with Bh5
tjradd(2092) whispers: something like o-o-o may be reasonable
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: bag bishop!
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: so bf3 looks inaccurate :<
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: but with what, the Nd3+ is there and i guess white moved Bf3 not to let the Nxf3 trade
WMKnight(1725) whispers: are you ok with givign up the bishop pair?
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Bf3 is blitz-move
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: B-pair is overrated :p learned today
WMKnight(1725) whispers: after o-o-o Nxf3, Qxf3
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: the chigorin is interesting :p
WMKnight(1725) whispers: GMs have a love affair with the Bishop Pair
Suiseiseki(1991) whispers: black gets two n vs two b in open pos and yet has a good position
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I am still at a level where knights terrify me more 17...Ne5 (4:47)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Ya, I agree the %tage of missed forks is pretty high on below 2300 FIDE
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: we all are at the level i guess - no GM s here
tjradd(2092) whispers: the bishop pair is already conceded
tjradd(2092) whispers: time to embrace the knight pair
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: I think playing Bf3 has commited to eating the pawn
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: else it is admitting a mistake
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Bxh5, doesnt concede bishop pair, it becomes bishop vs knight game
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I think. 18.Bxh5 (2:21)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: if only white would not have the pawn on g3 in this line 18...Bd3 (0:18)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: those g- and h- pawns are good protection for black king
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Whoa, unexpected
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: and not good 19.Qd1 (0:12)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Yeah because of that 19...Be4 (0:11)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: you can castle xD
tjradd(2092) whispers: candidates: f3, o-o 20.O-O (0:27)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I liked o-o
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: pretty fast for those tactics, calculations are out today
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: i like nd3+
Gorgonian(1604) whispers: lol
Psycho(1811) whispers: dont understand a lot the move in this game, seem to be picking deliberately dubious or double-edged moves
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: in 19th move
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: f4 is coming
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: in 18th i meant
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: yeah the Nd3+ line was critical
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: but it is hard to see that while playing a game 20...b5 (2:06)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: good move
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: f4 Nc4!
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: and also for Qb7 21.Nd4 (2:08) Qb7 (0:14)
tjradd(2092) whispers: f4 looks fine
WMKnight(1725) whispers: is f4 still good here
WMKnight(1725) whispers: can force a few trades
WMKnight(1725) whispers: and white should stand better with black having a more open king and a pawn down?
WMKnight(1725) whispers: f4, Nc4, Nxc4, bxc4, Bf3
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: trade on c4 improves black too much
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: look at pawn b2 hard to defend it
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: so smth like Qe2 and wait for black to capture on e3 or not at all 22.f3 (2:04)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: haha 22...Bh7 (0:27)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: the two-step-f4 move
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: best!
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: that white bishop on h5 is useless 23.f4 (0:12)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: nice
tjradd(2092) whispers: no hath, this is clever!
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: now it will be helpful
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: why not Bd3? instead of Bh7
tjradd(2092) whispers: now Bf3 goes back with time :)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: now its helpful cause it kicked 2 pieces away and not just one
WMKnight(1725) whispers: genius
allanchs(1597) whispers: bishop on h5 maybe a lot of use now
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yeah 23...Nc6 (0:44)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: pin it!
WMKnight(1725) whispers: uhm,
WMKnight(1725) whispers: well, Bf3, d5
WMKnight(1725) whispers: is not so bad 24.Bf3 (0:32) d5 (0:02)
tjradd(2092) whispers: I am happy to see Q cutoff
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: good block
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: aaargh
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: maybe thats crazy
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: but I guess w hite has missed f5!!!! 25.f5 (0:50)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Quaz didnt
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: a lill too late, idea was instead of Bf3 for f5 Nxd4 f6 and Qg4
WMKnight(1725) whispers: what great use of that f pawn 25...Nxd4 (0:38)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Now there is no f6, tho 26.cxd4 (0:01)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Qb6, go defend 26...Qb6 (0:28) 27.fxe6 (0:40)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: watching last TL game now running, after that I could do some, see my history, im back ;)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: ouch
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: mistell 27...Bxd4 (0:17)
tjradd(2092) whispers: bxp
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Yeah 28.exf7+ (0:13)
tjradd(2092) whispers: time to die mr bond
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Wow
tjradd(2092) whispers: Kh8
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: sad turnaround 28...Kh8 (1:37)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: so white is losing now?
tjradd(2092) whispers: must lose N/e3
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: u think not, N dies
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: that n is dead
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Re1?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: you cant defend it
tjradd(2092) whispers: two hits v 0 defenders atm
WMKnight(1725) whispers: oh yeah
WMKnight(1725) whispers: kh2
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: just move kh1
WMKnight(1725) whispers: and get another pawn
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: which tj said? that is right
WMKnight(1725) whispers: 3 pawns for the knight
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: kh1 or kg2 or kh2
WMKnight(1725) whispers: is not that bad
tjradd(2092) whispers: however, black's remaining pieces are going to be really annoying
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: exactly
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: played few moves too fast and thinking when in trouble 29.Kh2 (3:11) Bxe3 (0:05) 30.Qxd5 (0:08)
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: qe6+ mate if black doesnt notice
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: opps
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: qe5+ i meant
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: well Bh6, no other choices to stop that
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: ?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: bh6?
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: looking for Qh5/Be4, but 2nd rank is weak
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Bh6 stops it
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: right now yes
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Qe5 threat as well
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: but if black doesnt notice it than it is dead
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: white can give q for 2 rooks
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: what an imbalance
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: wild open pos
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: usually Q for 2 rooks is good
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: is good here, i cant evaluate taht
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: in this case, very good, pawn on f7
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: :o fireworks happened i see
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: bh6 or bd4
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: works here
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: he has to deal with Qe5 threat foremost
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: so ~ who is better? white? :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: at least enough activity i think~
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: actually, can he deal with both?
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Bd4 fails completely, Q eats rook, RxQ BxQ and who stops f7?
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: he has no choice to Bh6, im pretty sure
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: oh so white is winning~ :x
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: or drawn at least
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: not after Bh6 i think
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: black is winning :o
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: yeah, Bh6 forced, and that Q v RR exchange is money in the bank looks like
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: oh yeah bd4 is failing you are right funk
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: well the ending after f8=q looks pretty good
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: bh6 is good here
tjradd(2092) whispers: I am trying to assess Qd4
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: but still some work yes
tjradd(2092) whispers: (Qb5 Bd3)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: only move, methinks, to deal with duel threat of Qe5 and Qxa8
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: dual
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: umm qd4 looks better
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: or just qxq bxa8
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: to stop mate bh6
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: yep
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: no Qd4 Qxd4 Bxd4 Bxa8
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: yea
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: good try :p
tjradd(2092) whispers: right, I am wrong
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: if qd4 than
tjradd(2092) whispers: Qc5 could work instead
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Bh6, but then still Qx8
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Qc5, hmmm
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: qc5 more of the same? :x
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: oh, prevents f8
tjradd(2092) whispers: no, as on Qc5 Bc5 the B covers f8
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: but heads to that nice ending
WMKnight(1725) whispers: yea but you win the bishop after f8=Q?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: i think bh6 is the move here
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Qc5 Qe6! go stop the Qf6 and ur rook is hanging
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: bh6 seems to keep more pieces~
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: at least :x
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: agree Bh6, best try
tjradd(2092) whispers: might be time enough for Qc2+ and Be4 funk?
tjradd(2092) whispers: oh no
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i think i wouldn't try to solve the complications
tjradd(2092) whispers: I just assumed Bg2 like a fool :)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: how tj after Kh1
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: just dive in much superior ending
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: yeah lol
tjradd(2092) whispers: oh and it's bad anyway
tjradd(2092) whispers: hrmph! :)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: dont worry im not better recently :(
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: should stay away from commenting but cant resist
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: on Qc5 there is a renewed dual threat made with Qe6 (Qf6+ or Bxa8)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: qe6, whatever
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: just trade
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: just if misses the Bh6 move the show in the last TL game of regular season is over
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: fingers crossed he shall see
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: im not tired of that yet :X
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: there is another game going on
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: his time investment is good, will see it
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: could be worse ~ investing time because he didn't see it.. :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: oh u think panic?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: oh never mind it is not ll
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: realizing the misory
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: TL
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: *misery
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: doesn't that happen all the time? :<
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: not to you, Sui - ur good :p
linuxblue(1741) whispers: I never read steven king's misery :)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: I absolutely love open positions like this
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: ahah :s
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Bah I absolutely hate them
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: lol
linuxblue(1741) whispers: had to chuck in last cheap joke of TL 49 :D
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: its like food, you have your likes and dislikes
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: in food you don't have mean people forcing you to eat things :<
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: well sometimes.. :x
linuxblue(1741) whispers: well, not normally,,,unless you're a goverment taste tester in say North KOrea :))
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Oh please not there i start feeling bad only thinking about what they re eating.
allanchs(1597) whispers: maybe Bh6 best here
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: well enough of the subject already~ :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: so, bh6
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: but i feel resigns :<
linuxblue(1741) whispers: Royrogers as black would already have ended TL 49 :)
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: :)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: I wonder why he is playing at all
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: played him 15+0 time control - is same, he just needs 2 minutes
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: 1 minute is not enough, i easily flagged and beaten him in 1+0
linuxblue(1741) whispers: he'd be OK if he had Anand's abilities :)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: maybe he has and just isnt taking time?! 30...Qf6 (16:10)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: he wasnt bad at lightnings
linuxblue(1741) whispers: oh ok here no Bh6..hmm
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yeah
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: is this okay? :p
WMKnight(1725) whispers: uhm,
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: no
WMKnight(1725) whispers: is it
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: loses to qb3
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yes it doees
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: double attack
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: okay :<
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: thought thats obvious, the most obvious thing
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: I agree! Qb3 is another dual threat!
WMKnight(1725) whispers: ohhhh
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: nice play, what a cool position
WMKnight(1725) whispers: so white wins with Qb3 I think
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: qxa8 qxb2+ kh1
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: rxa8 bxa8 that white pawn will advance
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: please, BB, explain what is cool here
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Qb3 white takes lead yes?
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: tactics from every side pretty awkward
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: I don't wknow who is your team member, sorry
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: but it's q vs 2 r with pawns on opposite wings
linuxblue(1741) whispers: yeah it's not cool - the position is comedic and tragic :)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: I live for the game is all
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Noone, np - im in another section :)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: only qb3 wins cleanly maybe :x
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Its no offence i just wanna know how people can feel comfortable in a games which are more likely lottery than chess
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Qb3 powerball lotto
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Qb3 looks great
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: where is the fun with both kings opened up, imbalance and... you must have nerves :p
linuxblue(1741) whispers: I went to high school with a guywho went on to present powerball on tv :)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: the fun is in outnerving the other ~ maybe :p 31.Qxa8 (4:18)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: umm the dangerous ending
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i can't approve :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: ugh oh
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: he gambles
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: all in
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: yes, lotto
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: this is not all in, just level :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: (maybe.. ;p)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: qxa2 kh1 rxa8 f8..
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: see?! then u go switch an engine - and its eval chances from move to move. u just end up frustrated and think u cant play at all after such games
linuxblue(1741) whispers: Like what Andrew Martin about winning your won games - give the opponent no tactical shots at all :((
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: thats why i hate tactics - slight positional advantage and slow death makes it ;) 31...Qxb2+ (1:19)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: slow death is easier to play :p 32.Kh1 (0:22)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: but i win crushers from time to time *-*
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: what if qg7 here?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: losing too much material :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: no need to
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yeah
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: rxa8 seems fine~
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: thats the only option for now
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: not bad at all actually
Qauz(1975) whispers: i hope the game doesn't come down to me choosing the wrong squares for me king
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: ahaha
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: AHAH :s
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: I haven't found win yet after Rxa8
WMKnight(1725) whispers: there isnt
WMKnight(1725) whispers: just equal I think
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: equal maybe
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Rxa8, Bxa8, Bh6, f8=Q, Bxf8, Rxf8+Kg7, Rf1
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: oh true
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: white should win this game
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: yeah again Bh6, nice
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: bh6 much better
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: than qf6
WMKnight(1725) whispers: and then its q rooks and bishop, vs Q and bishop
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I think
WMKnight(1725) whispers: err 2 rooks
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: hard win for white on open board
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: right now?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: white has to double on f
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: ben right now?
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: 2 rooks for queen with opp. coloured B s . and i lost the count of the pawns
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: is black missing bh6? :x
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: if rook captures that queen white is lost
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: i meant black is lost
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: those pawns move slow ( g and h)...K gets checked to death
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: how so
Qauz(1975) whispers: fever 102 - plz hurry so i can sleep under blankets and drug myself into a comfortable stupor
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: if rxa8 bxa8
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: draw possible...fortress maybe
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: omg im sorry qauz
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: this isnt draw
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: rxa8 bxa8 bf6 f8=q bxf8 ~ q vs 2r opp b
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: who is winning after Rxa8
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: no big deal really
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: *bh6 instead of bf6
tjradd(2092) whispers: like-bees, not opp-bees
WMKnight(1725) whispers: BeneathBlue I believe that is up for interpretation.
Psycho(1811) whispers: fever explains the weird decisions for white
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: umm :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: slightly harder to draw
tjradd(2092) whispers: and after rx bx bh6 f8 bx rx kg7 raf1 I like Qa2, and I prefer black slightly
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: oh wait that black bishop stops the whole show
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: white has to double on f to claim anything
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: never mind i was wrong
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: my bad
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: so miscalculation by white
Psycho(1811) whispers: blacks q-side pawns do seem more mobile
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: ?
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: living in a purely material world Qxa8 seems reasonable, but its the openness of the pos, which gives doubt as to a win
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: so it is miscalculation by white 32...Kg7 (6:49)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: wow
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: missed bh6
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: only explanation
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: didnt eat the Queen??!
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: why not captured the queen
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: didn't see bh6 covering promotion sq
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yeah
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I ike white now
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: that is the thing
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: ah sui that explains
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: well this looks dead lost :x
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: some slight swindling chances
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: good lord, he's letting white keep the queen alive
WMKnight(1725) whispers: free rook
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Qd5
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: lottery 33.Qd5 (1:31)
tjradd(2092) whispers: I like Qe8 :p
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: miscalculation by both sides
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: lol, lotto again
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: this is stacked in w favour :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: at least we are entertained enough, what a bloody show here in the last regular game
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: it sucks when you think your calculation is right and at the end it is bad
WMKnight(1725) whispers: well black had the material edge before now, not sure what black has
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: black just missed the critical line, that's all
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yes
WMKnight(1725) whispers: chess is hard
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: now he is just exchange down with king on the open
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: so many beautiful open lines of play, I guess it would be hard stewing over them if in the game...very nice for spectating
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: while playing you cant see everything
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: chess is easy if you are on the right side
WMKnight(1725) whispers: exchange and 2 pawns 33...Rxf7 (2:07)
tjradd(2092) whispers: Bh5 looks annoying :p
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I am always on the right side, if I am getting crushed I hit the flip board button
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: haha
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: :))
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: never thought of doing that dring a game in which I play (flip)
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: bh5 rf8
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: different perspective
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I dont do it either,
tjradd(2092) whispers: I used to stand up and walk around, stand behind my opponent to calculate
WMKnight(1725) whispers: it actually throws me off
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i think sometimes flipping helps you think more about your opponent's possibilities
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: makes you see things from his side, literally :p
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: how many moves can you calculate?
WMKnight(1725) whispers: some people say that, I flip the board and I think oh my god, what game am I in.
tjradd(2092) whispers: usually about 3
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Flipping option is good - when i play vs. my own opening, for example, i have it easier to find moves for myself
WMKnight(1725) whispers: is this the right game?
linuxblue(1741) whispers: I used to be able to calculate 8 moves in my teens and outplay engines - but these days I am too old to see beyond 2 moves :)
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: haha
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: so bh5 rf8 than
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i can calculate some endgames to a win or a loss
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: .. :p
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: see introspection fi #6
WMKnight(1725) whispers: haha, if my teens were in the 60s I would be able to outply engines :P
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: if rxf8 qxa1+
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: In endgames without distraction I can calculate very high, into teens and even twenty moves...but most murk positions, just a few to up to 9 or 10 (and often these are lines which I thought were forcing lines but turn out otherwise often...ghost pieces problem...timing)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: Bg2 is the simple option
tjradd(2092) whispers: I think I can calculate 3 ply
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: darn, the piece isnt there anymore
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: what is the move here?
tjradd(2092) whispers: sometimes deeper, but honestly after 3 ply I just guess most of the time
tjradd(2092) whispers: I mostly go with my intuition
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yeah
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: 3 ply is surprisingly enough
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i hardly ever calculate more than that myself 34.Bh5 (4:40)
linuxblue(1741) whispers: 3 ply with good evaluation skills is better than 10 ply without them.
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: what is 3ply?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: 3 halfmoves
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: most people get confused her they capture the rook
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: two moves by you, one by them
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: is 3-ply
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: lol
Psycho(1811) whispers: my move their move your counter
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: thanks!
tjradd(2092) whispers: ok I meant 6 ply :p
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: more safe, 6-ply
WMKnight(1725) whispers: are we talking about toilet paper or chess?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i *do* play on 3 ply :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: 6 ply 3 moves by me and 3 moves by her :p
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: if rxf1 rxf1 than kh6?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: for tl i try to make an effort
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: probably nowhere else :p
tjradd(2092) whispers: honestly I hate calculating, and mostly I prefer to guess
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: have to evaluate opponents responses to a threat, as it may turn out to not be a threat at all
Psycho(1811) whispers: given crippled comps who play at 1 or 2 ply still score well, 3 ply is nothing to be sneezed at
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Id say i prefer positions with 0ply to calculate, where manouvring is, and nothing else matters
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I think 6 ply is as far as I go too
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: but when forced everything, np to see 10ply ahead
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: i think ;)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I dont like how this is called ply though
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: kind of
allanchs(1597) whispers: is Rf2 any good?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: dynamic ply assignment :p
linuxblue(1741) whispers: so my 8 mobe combination in 1988 that defeated my novag at the highest level was 16 ply? :)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: oh Rf2!!!
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: wait guys thats maybe a shot
tjradd(2092) whispers: threatening what
tjradd(2092) whispers: Rh2#
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: seems convincing
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Rh2 mate 34...Rf2 (3:07)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Met an OTB expert once, who went from like B to X in a short time...he used that three candidate moves thing by some GM...GM Kotov?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: happened ~ now what :<
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: wow Bh5 was a mistake, another lottery
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: those guys will be kicking themself after that game hardly
tjradd(2092) whispers: is the rook donation lost
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: maybe
tjradd(2092) whispers: or just drawn ! :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: unless we see smth now
tjradd(2092) whispers: now Rf2 Qa1 Kg2 and?
linuxblue(1741) whispers: yes Kotov hada famous candidate system.
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: so bg2 was better! :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: nicely spotted allanchs!!! Rule
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i knew there is always point in avoiding nonsense~ :p
tjradd(2092) whispers: looks drawish or possibly still white edge
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Now there a perpetual c heck
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Yes, Kotov
tjradd(2092) whispers: please improve on my line :)
linuxblue(1741) whispers: my favourite chess author is Euwe.
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: who can think like kotov recommends?
WMKnight(1725) whispers: so how many hate these types of games?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: maybe not even himself :p
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Preached not to analyze too much...use instincts to find the candidates, then calc...wise use of time I guess
WMKnight(1725) whispers: other than funkmaus
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: interesting move
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: I am much more like someone doodling, drawing what and where I want
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: clearly the best move
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: if white doesnt stop this it is mate
WMKnight(1725) whispers: BeneathBlue that works well if you have developed instincts from deep analysis and study
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: rx only move?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: rxr qxa1+
tjradd(2092) whispers: check check and take e3 doesn't work
linuxblue(1741) whispers: correspondence chess players have the strongest chess intuition from my experience with them.
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: so what else?
tjradd(2092) whispers: yes, Rf2 Qa1 Kg2
tjradd(2092) whispers: is = or positive
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: bg2, Rad1 been the moves instead of Bh5 to easy win for white, just no rush in attack
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: ok here you have to calculate
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: oh damn the fever im sorry
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: there is no calculation, only avoiding mate in 1
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: (!)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: here as you said the rook donation is lost back
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: in this position you have to calculate
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: so how else do you avoid mate
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: Qg2 :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: sad for white the queen cant help defence with checks and go to another square
tjradd(2092) whispers: uh
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: that is why to avoid mate you have to calculate ?
tjradd(2092) whispers: I think the rook donation is equal or winning for WHITE :p
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: find a good move here to avoid mate
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: when there is only one move that avoids mate..
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: Qd7+ Kh6 looks worse
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yes
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: when a move is forced, you don't think about it~ :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: whatever it leads you to
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Rxf2 seems somewhat forced
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: he is definitely considering qd7 lines
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: in this position to avoid mate you have to capture the rook
tjradd(2092) whispers: he might be medicating :)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: well :s
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: rxf2 qxa1+ kg2 bxf2
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: thinking?! I think he is pretty shocked now
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: kxf2
tjradd(2092) whispers: yessir
tjradd(2092) whispers: keep going 35.Qd7+ (6:33)
tjradd(2092) whispers: kxb
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: ?
tjradd(2092) whispers: and I think that is at least equal, if not better for white
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: check ?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: told you :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: white muts have a perp
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: perpetual check happening?
WMKnight(1725) whispers: white needs a win
tjradd(2092) whispers: I do not understand why white would only want a perp
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: they're missing lines~
tjradd(2092) whispers: blundering the exchange still leaves him up a pawn
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: without power of the observers :p
allanchs(1597) whispers: Kh8
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: kh6 and than ?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: white going to respond what? 35...Kh8 (1:13)
tjradd(2092) whispers: qxe3 is death, Rh2 Qg2
linuxblue(1741) whispers: aagaard has an interesting discussion about candiate moves in one of his books - has a different view than does Kotov.
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: still has to take on f2
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: just check on the backrank
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i do not trust kotov method, you know :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i mean, the method is good, but nearly impracticable
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Qe8+, Bg8, Rxf2, Qxa1+Kg2, Bxf2, Kfxf2
tjradd(2092) whispers: black also has Be4+ Rg2++ Rg1++# threat here :p
WMKnight(1725) whispers: and then who knows
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: kh6 woudl have been easy
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: u dont have forever to check all those candidates sometimes u just have to move what "looks good"
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: would 36.Qe8+ (1:34)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i play on "looks good" basis, that's how i play on 3 ply :p 36...Bg8 (0:07)
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: oh nice
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: haha
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Rxf2, Qxa1+
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: this is dead now
tjradd(2092) whispers: I have yet to see a line that sounds winning for black
linuxblue(1741) whispers: yes aagaard makes that point - value human intuition - as he pus it - play like a human, not a computer.
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Kg2, Bxf2, Kfx2, and then who knows, drawish
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: oh wow i missed it on the looks good basis
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: tha only thing that avoids mate now is rxr
tjradd(2092) whispers: Q/e8 instead of Q/d5 means a2 hangs 37.Rxf2 (0:44)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: AHAH :s
tjradd(2092) whispers: so sure, I can say white may not be winning now
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yes 37...Qxa1+ (0:23)
tjradd(2092) whispers: in fact the b5 tempo, outside, may be decisive
linuxblue(1741) whispers: aagaard gives an endgame position where trying to analyse to any amount of ply will not let you see the winning move but human intuition/patterning probably will. 38.Kg2 (0:05)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: "equal"? 38...Bxf2 (0:18)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: black slightly better ofcourse
WMKnight(1725) whispers: yay I calculated the right sequence
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Yeah, id say: think like Kotov after you have recodnizing a critical moment with Aagaard thinking
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: that is fair enough :p
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: honestly i havent read those at all but everyone is talking about it, so im not clueless xD
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Suiseiseki I think white can get perpetual when needed
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: me neither ~ :p
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Kotov method = Cutoff method
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: with q on may draw
tjradd(2092) whispers: think like a GM, when/how to truncate game trees?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: oh you mean Be2 i guess
tjradd(2092) whispers: could've been a lot more mathematical, for my taste :p 39.Kxf2 (1:44) Qxa2+ (0:01)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: All the primer books have it wrong B=3, N=3, lmao
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: be2 seems reliable :p 40.Be2 (0:10)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: material 14 to 14
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: 1 b vs 1 n is often fine
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i think the magic is in the bishop pair
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: I still thing Capablanca's primer is best, starts first chapter, "A Cardinal Principle" and shows you an endgame
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Knight pair is scarier
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: b=3 n=3 add .5 for b pair
linuxblue(1741) whispers: yes capa's book is fantastic and its downloadable legally for free from gutenberg site.
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: or maybe b=3.2, add .3
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: very nice, Gutenberg Projekt
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: The cardinal principle is opposition 40...a6 (2:12)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: can white even play for a win here?
WMKnight(1725) whispers: seems too risky 41.g4 (0:55)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: well I guess he is going to try
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: well, a gm could win this "easily" for w maybe
WMKnight(1725) whispers: against another good gm?
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: no :p
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: open board, draw likely, unless either white lets those black pawns get too far, or vice versa
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: always some chances with pawns on opposite sides and queens
WMKnight(1725) whispers: well I think blacks pawns are better
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: bishop can be a blocking piece in some critical moment
WMKnight(1725) whispers: since nothing is on that side of the board. 41...Qd5 (0:54)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: arduosly difficult...check check check check
evilcoyote(2095) whispers: well queens could have come off with Qf7+
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: this is a win with both colours: everyone from us vs. a GM :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: need nerves here :p
linuxblue(1741) whispers: Maroczy was an expert on queen and pawn endgames - he'd win it for white lol.
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: good pot of coffee maybe
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: probably
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Qf8 threatens mate
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: nah no mate
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: :p 42.h4 (1:06)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: Qf8, Qh6#
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: Bh7 :
WMKnight(1725) whispers: oh no
WMKnight(1725) whispers: duh
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i can't blame you i used to miss this myself :p
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: ~o)
WMKnight(1725) whispers: well, still gets draw 42...Qd4+ (0:49)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: both are playing to win~
WMKnight(1725) whispers: this is sually the part of the game that I give up and just take the draw/force the draw
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: someone has to offer 43.Qe3 (0:32)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: fair result after the game
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: black just because, white needs point for the team match
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i would offer as b
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: well but that game is absolutely not decisive for playoffs
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: but he could have just traded with Qf7 43...Qf6+ (0:35)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: I get bored easily in Q games, few units left, myself...like Calc IV or something
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: fact that he didn't may mean he wants more 44.Kg3 (0:16)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: somebody said it...nerves 44...b4 (0:21)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: Q endings here, +++checks, +++ moretime
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: with some experience can say, the easiest ones to play online
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i guess it will just soon degenerate into some perpetual :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: should still have some moments though
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: make an advance....subject oneself to another series of checks...advance again...drudgery
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: I like Black's cozy little spot, with no pawns even
WMKnight(1725) whispers: so this is not the beauty of chess??
WMKnight(1725) whispers: I think I will do a problem from my chess book then
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: do you see this as a draw or not?
linuxblue(1741) whispers: yes - chess is about beauty - anyone who thinks its about busting the other guy's ego just goes west into nowhere like Fischer :)
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: haha 45.g5 (2:49)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: haha linux
tjradd(2092) whispers: wonder if Ba6 was "easily" drawn
WMKnight(1725) whispers: well CIA was after Fischer so he had good reason
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: my candidates were either Qe8, setup for a check while guarding e5 checksquare, or h5 advance something on the black king
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: g5...is it okay? 45...Qd6+ (1:34)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: the value of black king as a defender - or as a target for white pawns is hard to evaluate for me
linuxblue(1741) whispers: Fischer is now playing chess against Che Guevera :)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: g5 has white hole in it...maybe h5 better, but where is a GM when you need him
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: perpetual coming? :o 46.Kg2 (1:50) Bd5+ (1:14)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: he's getting ready to advance b3 47.Kf1 (0:43)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: white seems to be pushing too far :x
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: guess plan is for k to help in blocking pawns
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: this is difficult for me to evaluate
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: he is deliberately keeping all the pieces
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: so white pawn is worth less?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: since black pawn is advancing
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: maybe could say so
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: the main question is are you going for a draw or a win?
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: for white
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: white wants to win
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i think black also does :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: i mean, as in playing to win
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: well, Qh2 can lead to a perp...I see that Qh2 Qe8+ Kg7 Qe7+ Bf7 Qf6+ Kf8 Qd8+ Kg7 Qf6+ can draw...Kg8 no different
tjradd(2092) whispers: qh2 Qd4+ looks not very perpy
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: oops, piece
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: if you want it really bad than go for the win
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: advance the pawn
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: yeah, white kings gets out after a few checks
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: if b3, then...
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: h5 here
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: it is blacks move
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: oh
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: never mind 47...Bf7 (8:04)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: anti-check move
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: so he decided Qd4+ was a big eal :p
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: ..deal 48.h5 (1:22) b3 (0:22)
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: h6 here
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: h6 followed by qc3+
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: there is qc3+
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Qc3+ is one check, and more can follow
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: no h6 first
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: and than followed by qc3+
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: cheapo :o
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: why not i guess
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: if black doesnt notice it than it is mate
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: h6 and if black doesnt notice 49.Qc3+ (2:36)
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: that fails
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: kg8 h6 qf8 49...Kg8 (1:00) 50.g6 (0:36)
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: ftl yes that game might keep the playoffs pairings, right, or can you post them despite of this?
Funkmaus(2228) whispers: oops mistell 50...Be6 (0:46) 51.Bf3 (2:39) Bh3+ (1:35)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: seems like they are forming an organic molecule or something 52.Kf2 (0:02) Qh2+ (0:31) 53.Ke3 (0:08)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: so is the perpetual coming? :p
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Qg1+, only check, then....
tjradd(2092) whispers: Qg1 Kf4 no more checks? 53...Qg1+ (0:57)
tjradd(2092) whispers: perhaps we can have a helpmate K/h6 Q/f4 54.Kf4 (0:28)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: that actually could happen :<
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Qh2+, then
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Ke4 Qb1+ 54...Qh2+ (1:11)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: oops I am on h2 55.Ke4 (0:08)
allanchs(1597) whispers: hehe
WMKnight(1725) whispers: why not just b2? 55...Qc2+ (0:21) 56.Qd3 (0:09)
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: Qc2+ Kd4 forced
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: oh
Twikki(2148) whispers: bf5 56...Bf5+ (0:08)
allanchs(1597) whispers: Bf5
BeneathBlue(1920) whispers: ouch!
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: haha
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: .........
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: good move
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: execellent move
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: pain 57.Ke5 (0:16)
Suiseiseki(1998) whispers: a lot
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: yes
CarlosKerber(1609) whispers: Brazil-zil-zil 57...Qxd3 (0:09) 58.Bd5+ (0:01)
Hathkhola(1744) whispers: what a move Qauz resigns 0-1
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