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pramado(1978) vs. ismirdochegal(2095) *

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1.e3 (0:00) e5 (0:00) 2.d3 (0:02) d5 (0:07) 3.a3 (0:01)
pramado(1978) whispers: It's times like these I'd like to be playing over the board and see my opponents reaction. Surprise! :)
Alieth(1886) whispers: go ismir! 3...Nf6 (2:31) 4.h3 (0:03)
Alieth(1886) whispers: i'm pretty sure it's not all that much of a surprise, he's probably actually happy to see it if anything 4...Bd6 (0:22) 5.Nd2 (0:02) O-O (0:12) 6.Ne2 (0:01)
Alieth(1886) whispers: ya black is looking at least equal here lol
Alieth(1886) whispers: sucks for white
Alieth(1886) whispers: letting black equalize so easially
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Go Chris!
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: this is a cute setup 6...Re8 (1:42)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: What is that for a horrible opening?
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: there is one with b3, d3, e3, g3, Bb2, Nd2, Ne2, Bg3 but this one
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: very weird 7.g4 (2:28)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Wow
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: black better play c5 to prevent b4! :) 7...Be6 (0:50) 8.Bg2 (0:09)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: yeah 8...c6 (1:14) 9.Ng3 (0:12)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Pramado is going to be 2400 player
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: in his notes
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: well... not with that play :p 9...h6 (1:12)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: g5 hxg5 h4! would be at least funny for now
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: g4 h5 and push that pawn 10.Nf5 (0:40)
pramado(1978) whispers: Love that outpost.
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: what a silly opening
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: (just got here)
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: give it a chance
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: one piece crossed the middle and he loves that ;)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: BxN
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: haha
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: no more outpost 10...Bf8 (1:13)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Shaka, as I got here on move 6 or so, that was exactly my comment :p 11.e4 (1:08)
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: I've seen strange openings in TL before. usually with the h and a pawns running up the board
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: g6 Ne3 d4 Nef1 - well maybe long term bad, since Ng3-might come back with a sac on f5 when prepared
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: black should find a way to open things up 11...Nbd7 (1:44) 12.Qf3 (0:14)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: h- and a-pawns running over the board is called: Crap attack
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: actually I remember it was black who played it funkmaus, so that would be called crap defence
pramado(1978) whispers: I need to decide to castle or not next move. I can either castle and bring my king into the haven, or play Rg1 and look to open the g file up quickly. I'm leaning castling, but black has to move here first.
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: bring the king into heaven?! :p
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: anyway, at least Ismir is probably out of book
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: SM, the guy who played it - Alifant uses that with both colours. I never believed he would go his lightnings opening in a serious TL game, but he did 12...g6 (3:42)
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: It seemed to work last time I saw it 13.Ng3 (0:38) Bg7 (0:23)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: nice g6, i feared white comes up with h4/g5 stuff, now h4 fails to Bxg4
pramado(1978) whispers: i goofed up, totally missed that my f5 knight is fine because if he takes i win the e6 bishop. in fact that would be great if he took and opened up the g file more. guess i'll put my knight back on f5 then, and admit my mistake in doing so. :)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: btw anyone see why he moved Ng3 away on g6, he could have left it there no? Be6 no squares after recapruring 14.Nf5 (2:49)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: ah same timing, isee
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: black can take the knight I think 14...Bf8 (1:24)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: ah with B@g7 it made sense
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: cause NxB
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: and without simple dxe4 bishop escapes
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: actually, no, escape to where?
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: could this maybe be a draw?
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: well to be taken on d5
timeconstrained(1971) whispers: is there a result for the other pairing?
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Yes, match is 1-1 after two games drawn
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: g5 possible?
timeconstrained(1971) whispers: dragonaces' game says they played yesterday on the website
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: looks not, knight needs to stay on d2 to cover c4 15.b3 (3:34)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: g5 gxf5 gxf6 exf4, how u take e4, shaka or you dont take at all?
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: DragonAce game wasnt played. So no result yet 15...dxe4 (1:03) 16.dxe4 (0:06)
timeconstrained(1971) whispers: ok thank you
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: id take the N now
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: gxN gxN Bd5 exB cxB, just survive that attack and nice centre
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: indeed
pbeccari(1790) whispers: can black hold? g file would open just in front of king?
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: well the problem is that he is not forced to take after Bd5
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: can play Bb2 or whatever first, this B doesnt run
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: paolo, with K@h7 the white pawn on f5 seems to be the best defender. i dont see what and how white might do there from just one open file
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: his Bc1 and Ra1 are not in the game 16...Qc7 (3:15)
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: Qc7 good too, useful for defense later
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: like this move
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Well, I dont like it
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: ;)
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: connects rooks, keeps control of 7th
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: i just hate this Nf5 there, Qe3 idea Nxh6+ and on Kh7 still Nxh6 BxN g5
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: it doesnt hurt but it is there 17.Bb2 (2:08)
pramado(1978) whispers: somewhat thinking i'll castle queenside here.
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: obviously 17...Rad8 (3:11) 18.O-O-O (1:49)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: damn Qa5 Nb1 18...a5 (0:31)
pramado(1978) whispers: I just see so much more potential castling queenside than kingside, and I really do want to attack the king so it just makes sense from that standpoint.
ShakaZahn(1973) whispers: maybe we will see your Qe3 idea now
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: does ismirdo like these sort of positions?
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: king races
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: that yes, but out of sizilian stuff
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: race to the king I should mean
pramado(1978) whispers: Well now Qa5 is out of the picture which I thought could bring an annoyance to the position, so that makes me happy.
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Well. I dont get this game. It seems like white was doing everything wrong, while black did everything right - i mean each move new piece developed, took centre and so on
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: but its white who has better chances to win the king-race
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: I dont see how black can break over there, someone 19.Qe3 (3:08) Kh7 (0:14)
pramado(1978) whispers: See if I can pressure black's kingside position more, maybe create a weakness. 20.Nxh6 (0:14)
timeconstrained(1971) whispers: i thought black missedNc5 on move like 16 i think it was...that would have started some counterattack
pramado(1978) whispers: Ah ha! 20...Bxh6 (0:36) 21.g5 (0:02)
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: black did good moves, but apparently not the best moves to defend against the pramado attack
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: computer still thinks black is better though, perhaps there is a good defense
timeconstrained(1971) whispers: is whites attack that great?!?!?!
pramado(1978) whispers: Now I need to get that h pawn out of the way and let the attack begin!
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: not yet but his plan is clear 21...Bg7 (5:07) 22.gxf6 (0:04) Nxf6 (0:22) 23.Nf3 (0:29)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: what?
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: ah lol sry thought Bh6 gets queen... goofy 23...Nh5 (0:54) 24.Ng5+ (0:10) Kg8 (0:02)
pramado(1978) whispers: Lot of things to consider here
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: yes i consider to get a drink, finally you seem to wanna take time :))
pramado(1978) whispers: Black's knight moves made good sense, closed up the h file too. Good defensive play. 25.Rxd8 (6:27)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Qx 25...Rxd8 (1:09)
pramado(1978) whispers: Abandoning my kingside attack now and looking towards the end game. 26.Nxe6 (0:09) fxe6 (0:01)
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: i think white should be better here
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: there is no senseable way to improve that thing on h5 i think. none that i currently see anyway
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: wont that thing land on f4 one day?
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: but what shall it do there?
pramado(1978) whispers: Pretty sure black is going to put that knight on f4
pramado(1978) whispers: Thats probably the best square in the positon for it, controls a lot of good area. 27.Bf3 (3:41) Nf4 (0:08)
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: now Bg4, and i don't see what the knight is going to be doing
pramado(1978) whispers: Well probably should trade off this terrible h pawn now while i can 28.h4 (0:44)
pramado(1978) whispers: liquidate my weak spots before they become targetted.
pramado(1978) whispers: Kind of disappointing, I was hoping my kingside attack would materialize there. 28...c5 (0:59)
pramado(1978) whispers: Black's ready to go offensive now. Charge the pawns! Maybe I will too. :) 29.h5 (1:01) c4 (0:10)
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: hxg6 does look nice if cxb Qxb3 black can't recapture on g6 i think
pramado(1978) whispers: Now who would have thought of this positon a few moves ago. I can trade pawns on g6, push on h6, or play quiet with Kb1.
nitelyjoy(1698) whispers: white definitely improved since move 4 :-)
pramado(1978) whispers: I'm attracted to the h6 push here, although I have a feeling hxg6 is the better move. But the idea of a pawn that far down by black's king and pushing the bishop off g7 seems to spark something over there, at least give black something to concern himself with later on.
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: h6 is a good move
nitelyjoy(1698) whispers: hxg cxb (Nxg6 bxc) Qxb3
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: h6 Kh6 and white just got rid of all his attack
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: hxg is more serious 30.h6 (8:43)
timeconstrained(1971) whispers: doesnt seem thematic ot keep the hfile closed 30...Bf6 (1:53)
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: the problem i see is after cxb3 Qxb3 Bf6 how does white improve?
nitelyjoy(1698) whispers: cxb before moving away B
pramado(1978) whispers: pawn exchanges just seem to water down the position to me, this offers more spunk to the game 31.Kb1 (2:24)
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: actually I see what you mean now, in pretty much any endgame black can stop the h pawn
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: yes Kh7
RobertFrost(1729) whispers: hello all, have fun guys! i hope my stupid tangent from university of dayton doesnt crash again so i can watch the game. 31...cxb3 (1:07)
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: and as of now, the h pawn actually serves as a defender of the black king
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: i would still prefer white though
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: I still like white better, mainly because of the pawn structure and bishop pair
tjradd(2147) whispers: that e5 pawn makes black meh
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: meh indeed 32.Qxb3 (2:14)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: strange recapture 32...Kh7 (0:28)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: might be important to keep control of d3
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: hence Qxb3
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: especially as he had Rc1 coming up ... strange as you said
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: Bg4 now maybe
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: nevermind, that pawn isn't important
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: true about d3, tho this Nf4 is blacks only 1 defender
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: so maybe Bc1 to remove it?
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: hard Bf6 awakes
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: rewiev the game, cat, u get it?
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: well...queen comes to e6
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: no, not really ;)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: reversed hippo kind of thing
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: its too far advanced for me to understand
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: i would play Bg4
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Kh7 Bc1 doesnt threaten Bxf4 exf4 Qxe6, there is Rd6 Q-any Rb6+ black wins
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: ah yes indeed 33.Bg4 (4:53)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: black's attack is faster
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: well, this is unbridled materialism
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: Rd2 indirectly protects e6 though
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Rc8 too, and Rd6 defends direkt
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: yeah, but rook to the seventh...
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: though then my Bc1 comes with tempo 33...Qc6 (1:58)
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: if Rd2, Qc3 I thought 34.Qc3 (0:13) Qxc3 (0:06) 35.Bxc3 (0:04) b6 (0:01)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: well, Rd2 Qc3 Qxc3 Bxc3 Rxf2 is a pawn...
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: yeah I guess
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: nice!
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: and now we get ths same without gaining a pawn
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: ah, now I see, in my line a5 was falling too
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: so this is better
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: ha, thats why b6 now. Im getting it slowly too
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: btw. like the decision to trade queens 36.Kb2 (1:48)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: yeah, white rook is tied down to h6
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: but black's pieces are all prety immobile too 36...g5 (0:25) 37.Kb3 (0:11)
xivarmy(1967) whispers: well tied down is a little extreme, h6 will die eventually, white rook can abandon it whenever ;)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: Nf4 holds, its trade lead to opp. coloured bishops
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: quite, and I like the king invasion to b5 37...Rc8 (0:42)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: though maybe Rc8 stops it
Credit(2145) whispers: g5?! I dont like this move
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: oh i like a4 now for white
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: to fix those pawns
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: just feels right ;)
Credit(2145) whispers: g5?
Credit(2145) whispers: I just see the hole on f5 :)
Credit(2145) whispers: and h5 38.a4 (1:16)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: maybe the idea was Kg6 and Rh8
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: but hard to justify 38...Rc6 (0:13)
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: i just see that black is setting up a fortress
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: Ng6-h4 is the idea
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: ah, yes better way to grab h6
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: wow nice
Credit(2145) whispers: yeah and f5 still is protected by e6
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: so as white better abadon that pawn immediately and try to get the rook somewhere ... but where?... hmm. I start to like black!
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: couldn't black just play Ng2? that would be faster
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: same!
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: h4 wouldn't be secure, cos of Bxd5 and Rxh4
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: well Rd1 is thematic
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: *Bxe5
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: but opposite coloured bishops there...
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: h4 is protected by blacks bishop
StrategyMaster(1912) whispers: I'm just saying that g5 might still not have been a necessary move
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: that's why Bxe5 to distract it
xivarmy(1967) whispers: Bd2-Be3 and then Rd1-Rd7-Rb7?
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: but I don't believe in that idea anymore 39.Bb2 (3:57)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: should white wait for the knight transfer to h4 before playing Rd1? 39...Ng6 (0:09)
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: mmm
xivarmy(1967) whispers: well that's part of why i thought taking the time to move the B to e3 would be a help, don't know how Bb2 improved it
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: Ba3 40.Ba3 (0:40) Nh4 (0:02)
xivarmy(1967) whispers: and then where?
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: f8
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: yes
Funkmaus(2147) whispers: he can indirectly defend h6 by Bc1
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: but then Rc8, dunno if that achieves a damn thing 41.Bc1 (0:25)
Credit(2145) whispers: then e6 is hanging... 41...Rd6 (0:20)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: right, but you can't give up the bishop for e6
Credit(2145) whispers: no, not immedately :)
xivarmy(1967) whispers: could play Bg7 though and give up h6 for e6 which is better than h6 for nothing 42.f3 (0:33)
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: though I guess Bg7 BXg7 hxg7 Kxg7 Bxe6, dunno I like getting rid of the bad bishop there for black 42...Kg6 (0:33)
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: actually, instead of Bc1 Rd1 Kxh6 Rd6 Rxd6 Bxf6 and then Kc5=b5 wins
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: Kc4-b5
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: *
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: that idea may work anyway
SolidStrike(2203) whispers: no Rd1
smallblackcat(1976) whispers: how about Rh2, to prepare Kc4? Ismirdochegal lost connection; game adjourned *

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