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ismirdochegal(2168) vs. dididothat(2054) 1-0

{2...d5} {(0:46)}
3.exd5 {(0:03)} e4 {(0:03)} 4.d3 {(0:01)} Qxd5 {(3:13)} 5.Qe2 {(0:42)} Nf6 {(0:50)} 6.Nc3 {(1:16)} Bb4 {(1:31)} 7.Bd2 {(0:08)} Bxc3 {(2:47)} 8.Bxc3 {(0:04)} Bf5 {(2:53)

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: watchbot is back, and no-one has anything to say?

tjradd(2187) whispers: exhausted after qualifier tourney :)

wmahan(1966) whispers: why aren't you asleep sbc? :p

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: yeah, those GM draws are so tiring ;)

tjradd(2187) whispers: cluck cluck!

wmahan(1966) whispers: glad to see Ismir hasn't given up on the KG

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: no offence meant btw, I did the same in my qualifier ;)

tjradd(2187) whispers: in my defense, I played a terrible move when I offered

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: lol

tjradd(2187) whispers: anyway, to respect ismirdochegal and dididothat hmmm

tjradd(2187) whispers: what should white be doing here

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: castling queenside seems fine

tjradd(2187) whispers: I have to say o-o-o Qa2 looks really dangerous :)

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: oh my, I am blind today

wmahan(1966) whispers: I wonder if he can try Nf3 while he has a chance

tjradd(2187) whispers: ok, and what's the line on Nf3 Bg4

tjradd(2187) whispers: anything there?

tjradd(2187) whispers: or just h3 and meh

tjradd(2187) whispers: yeah, meh

tjradd(2187) whispers: should black be castling long?

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: maybe Nh3 is acceptable}
9.Bxf6 {(6:13)

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: a bit slow to play Nh3-f2 and g4 or something}
9...gxf6 {(0:04)} 10.g4 {(0:03)

wmahan(1966) whispers: wow

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: this is quicker :)

wmahan(1966) whispers: so he wants the pawn back

wmahan(1966) whispers: Bd7 Bg2?

tjradd(2187) whispers: and what on Bg4

tjradd(2187) whispers: Bg4 Qg4 ed3 Qc8 Ke7 qh8 Qh1 *headache*

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: what about simply Bxg4 Qxg4 exd3 Bg2

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: From from to KG and then counter! GO Ismir!

wmahan(1966) whispers: seems fine to me sbc

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: Bxg4 is outta question, he has to rethreat

tjradd(2187) whispers: agree, Bg4 is trash

tjradd(2187) whispers: Rg8 trashy too? :p

tjradd(2187) whispers: I'm so desperate to make something work here, and it just isn't here

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: what's this, I saw no comments for minutes and now it's flooded :O

tjradd(2187) whispers: sbc cracked the whip

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: sbc is always awake?

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: to return to the game, I've always found the Falkbeer to be a lot worse than it's reputation, I've literally never seen anyone get a good position with it :p

tjradd(2187) whispers: I thought the point of the falkbeer was "both sides stand worse"

RxR(2205) whispers: doesnt this fit well in that paradigm?

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: I thought the justification was white wanting to play a gambit but black gets his revenge by being the one gambiting ;)

ShakaZahn(1905) whispers: agreed madman

ShakaZahn(1905) whispers: i've dabbled with the exf4 lines and always end up down a pawn for nothing :(

RxR(2205) whispers: many think the exf4 line is blacks best in all of the kigns gambit

RxR(2205) whispers: and it was Yue Wangs choice when he faced Carlsne in the king gambit}
10...Qa5+ {(10:53)

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: hmm, I've always seen that name as Wang Yue before but of course which name going first when it comes to Chinese has always confused me :p

RxR(2205) whispers: same here :)

RxR(2205) whispers: anyway the family name is wang

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: I think I prefer the Fischer defense (if not wanting to play g5)}
11.c3 {(6:11)} Be6 {(0:14)} 12.f5 {(0:51)} exd3 {(12:05)

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: hmm, what's the reply to Qe3 here?

RxR(2205) whispers: d2?

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: then Kd1 or even Kf2, I guess its fairly risky but winning a piece is usually pretty nice

smallblackcat(1960) whispers: as a practical matter, I suppose white may trust that black has calculated the variations coming after Qe3 and just avoid the whole thing with Qxd3

RxR(2205) whispers: not so sure about that given white is the higher rated player}
13.Qxd3 {(3:36)

RxR(2205) whispers: lol!

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: Qe3 sure looked good

DragonAce(1968) whispers: Jin is so bad.

RxR(2205) whispers: huh?

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: how was Qe4 to be able to play Bxd3 if Qd5 or Qe5?

DragonAce(1968) whispers: hello.

wmahan(1966) whispers: hey Dragon

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: qe4 seemed ok too, I guess white's slightly better after either qe3 or qe4 or qxd3}
13...Qd5 {(4:55)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: hi

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: but qe3 looked like the most ambitious, but maybe black can sack e6 and get some sort of attack; looks a little fishy though

wmahan(1966) whispers: DragonAce I meant, but hi Mr. FM too ;)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: well fine then

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: hah

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: hmm, fxe6 looks interesting, it could very well be good

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: too many dragons around

hugozver(1920) whispers: no dragon girls tho

wmahan(1966) whispers: it did look interesting but seemed a scary line after d2

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: fxe6 has ot win here

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: white wins a piece?

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: or i miss smth?

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: black can't possibly survive qxh1 o-o-o

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: that has to be gg

DragonAce(1968) whispers: lol

Fischeur(1936) whispers: 000

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: maybe the queen even gets trapped by nf3 too

RxR(2205) whispers: fxe6 Qxh1 0-0-0 0-0 (what else?) Nf3 looks very strong

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: yeah, white might even have fxe6 qxh1 exf7+ too

RxR(2205) whispers: exf7 instead of Nf3 looks great too

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: followed by some checks}
14.Nf3 {(5:53)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: -----=====> F E A R <=====-----}
14...Qxd3 {(0:13)} 15.Bxd3 {(0:03)} Bd5 {(0:01)} 16.Kf2 {(0:02)

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: i see compensation for doubled pawns - a pretty nice square for N, @e5

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: yeah black is probably fine now

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: finally a position which i understand :p other too tactical

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: BxN now

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: black cant lose

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: match 1,5-1,5}
16...Nc6 {(2:16)

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: BxN to secure e5 square for the knight?

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: ya but no rush, night is pinned

RxR(2205) whispers: nice funkmaus, I didnt even consider giving up the superb B on d5, but securing Ne5 for black is worth it

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: rhe1+ and then be4?

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: no more bxf3}
17.Rhe1+ {(0:33)

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: oh hell yeh nice point, it did run away}
17...Kf8 {(0:27)} 18.Be4 {(0:02)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: still seems like black should be ok; hard for white to take advantage of the f pawns}
18...Bxe4 {(0:45)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: trade and then go rd8

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: and np no rook connection imho, Rh8 comes after h5 with full power into the game

RxR(2205) whispers: Rh8 not playing is a problem}
19.Rxe4 {(0:15)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: yeah after h5 like funkmaus said it shouldn't be so bad}
19...Re8 {(0:20)} 20.Rae1 {(0:33)} Rxe4 {(0:04)} 21.Rxe4 {(0:02)

RxR(2205) whispers: even after h5 Rh8 still isnt playing}
21...Kg7 {(0:02)

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: at least sits on open file and not watch the pawn :p

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: wonder if Chris can convert this slight advantage

RxR(2205) whispers: h5 g5 and no open file

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: g5 no more double-pawns}
22.h4 {(1:02)

RxR(2205) whispers: anyway now Rh8 can get out the other way, so now white must show that Kg7 is out of play

Madmansreturn(2001) whispers: shouldn't h5 eliminate some of black's positional problems now?

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: h5 g5 now I assume, since white can recapture with the h pawn if black takes on g5}
22...Rd8 {(1:23)} 23.Ke2 {(0:23)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: now that the rook is on the d file he might be able to go h5 g5 rd5

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: when white has to put his rook on the somewhat silly f4 square

RxR(2205) whispers: perhaps white should have played b4 earlier, to fet the rook in to the 7th rank

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: yeah

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: actually h5 g5 rd5 rf4 ne7 nd4 c5 and the f pawn is done?

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: white has to take h5?}
23...Kf8 {(2:12)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: h5 was definitely good

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: b4 is nice point, RxR}
24.b4 {(0:46)} Re8 {(1:15)} 25.Ke3 {(0:07)} Rxe4+ {(0:15)} 26.Kxe4 {(0:09)

RxR(2205) whispers: white better now, but how to make progress?}
26...Ke7 {(2:03)} 27.Kd5 {(0:07)

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: This has got to be the oddest game position I've seen.}
27...Kd7 {(0:30)

RxR(2205) whispers: what is the oddest thing about it?

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: It's all pawns and knights. Black with no pawn advancement.

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: It just looks kind of unnatural.

Aneirin(1890) whispers: it's called endgame. :)

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: haha

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: With 12 pawns on the board? :b

RxR(2205) whispers: right dreamlight, it is a bit original

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: Yeah, pawns are usually cannon-fodder.

Aneirin(1890) whispers: I like him:)

Tsubo(2059) whispers: hi guys

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: they have been; look through game, they changed gambits like clothes to get into a boring ending here

RxR(2205) whispers: perhaps g5 here

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: white missed at least one forced win

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: but I wasn't watching at the start

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: the danger of g5 is that after ne7+ your king might have to go backwards

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: not sure how big of a deal that is

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: but g5 is a pretty committal move

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: so I'd probably want to start moving stuff on the queenside first}
28.a3 {(5:38)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: a3 to let black waste his time trying to figure out what white has in mind

Tsubo(2059) whispers: i would try a plan like: a4, a5, Nd2, Ne4 and when Ke7, a6.

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: Hm, what about sacking the white knight at e5?

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: what?

Tsubo(2059) whispers: ? ? ?

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: Nevermind, that's just a patzer idea coming form a patzer like me.

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: he just wants to get rid of that horse

Tsubo(2059) whispers: criative... but i dont think its good :)

Tsubo(2059) whispers: creative*

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: ne5 is animal cruelty

Aneirin(1890) whispers: maybe to get all the K-side pawns in return

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: peta will be after you}
28...Ne7+ {(3:04)} 29.Ke4 {(0:04)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: black doesn't really have anything to do here other than wait

Tsubo(2059) whispers: now g4-g5 is a threat.

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: Nd2-c4-a5, after b6 played try to manouvre to b5

Tsubo(2059) whispers: g5 fxg5 Ne5+ Ke8 hxg5

MilPat(1894) whispers: g5 fxg5 Nxg5 wins a pawn?

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: heh yeah nxg5 looks better

Tsubo(2059) whispers: :)

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: g5 Ng8 lol

Tsubo(2059) whispers: but that is a enslaved N

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: yeah he'd have to go ng8, probably better is just go back to c6 right now with the knight

Tsubo(2059) whispers: an*

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: and wait for white to demonstrate some winning idea}
29...Nc8 {(2:31)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: black really likes to give check

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: c4 nd6+ kd3 hoping for h5? c5}
30.Nd4 {(2:14)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: hmm

Tsubo(2059) whispers: plan: g4-g5, and move King to h6

Tsubo(2059) whispers: knight defends f5 pawn

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: nd6+ kf4 nc4 could be annoying now though

RxR(2205) whispers: I still dont see why black is avoiding h6

Tsubo(2059) whispers: Nc4 a4

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: nb6

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: (a5 nd5)

Tsubo(2059) whispers: = )

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: gl with defense of queenside pawns

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: nd4 may have thrown away white's advantage}
30...Nd6+ {(3:41)} 31.Kd3 {(0:04)

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: That was fast.

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: b5

Tsubo(2059) whispers: nd6+ kf4 nc4 a4 Nb6 g5 Ke7 a5 N d5+ Kg4 Nxc3 a6 bxa6 Nc6+

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: and that's better for black}
31...Nc8 {(1:52)} 32.c4 {(0:14)

Tsubo(2059) whispers: :D}
32...Ne7 {(0:16)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: or at least, black isn't worse, he may not be winning

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: but I'd rather be black there if only for the supercheapo kd7 nxa7 c5 0-1

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: when the white knight has to sit on a7 like an idiot white the black a pawn promotes}
33.Ke4 {(1:00)} Nc6 {(0:27)

Tsubo(2059) whispers: bxc5,,,

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: a5

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: a4

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: a3

Tsubo(2059) whispers: Nb5

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: nxb5

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: thanks

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: my knight is on c3 in that position}
34.Nf3 {(0:26)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: and my k is on d7, your knight is quite stuck

Tsubo(2059) whispers: :)

RxR(2205) whispers: lots of moving back and forth and we end up in the same position where white has the moce c4 extra? :)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: hmm he didn't go b5

oldengawy(2086) whispers: isolated pawn's often can't win}
34...b6 {(1:31)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: hmm

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: he turned down that k+p endgame awfully fast

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: g5 fxg5 Nxg5 maybe?

MilPat(1894) whispers: not sure black will take g5

MilPat(1894) whispers: in fact, sure he will not}
35.g5 {(1:37)

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: Well, theres the g5. Let's see what black does. :)

MilPat(1894) whispers: :)}
35...Ke7 {(1:18)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: I guess the k+p endgame was a draw, but hard to know for sure

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: and that might be good enough reason to avoid it}
36.Kd5 {(0:33)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: looking pretty good for white now

MilPat(1894) whispers: now he can take g5?

MilPat(1894) whispers: oops N moce before

MilPat(1894) whispers: move*

Tsubo(2059) whispers: Nd8 Nd4

Tsubo(2059) whispers: Nc6 is a threat}
36...Nd8 {(1:31)} 37.Nd4 {(0:05)

Tsubo(2059) whispers: nd8 nd4 fxg5 hxg5 kd7 b5

MilPat(1894) whispers: Nb5 forks}
37...fxg5 {(0:23)} 38.hxg5 {(0:02)

Tsubo(2059) whispers: nb5 c6?

oldengawy(2086) whispers: Kd7

MilPat(1894) whispers: D'oh

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: well he was correct about the nb5 causing a fork

MilPat(1894) whispers: lol

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: looks like chris will get the point here

Tsubo(2059) whispers: rs

Tsubo(2059) whispers: fi dragonslayr

Tsubo(2059) whispers: :)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: kd7-e7 and wait

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: I guess

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: nothing for black to do

Tsubo(2059) whispers: time makes it harder for black :P}
38...c6+ {(2:33)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: wat

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: that does not work

Tsubo(2059) whispers: exchanges and c4c5c6c7c8

MilPat(1894) whispers: didhedothat?

Tsubo(2059) whispers: lol

wmahan(1966) whispers: hehe

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: Nxd6+ Nxd6 g6 maybe?

Tsubo(2059) whispers: u mean nc6 nc6 f6

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: kd7 b5 ke7 white still had to do a bit of work

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: pawn ending is won, take it

RxR(2205) whispers: nice idea dreamlight

Tsubo(2059) whispers: yes... still hard

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: yeah c6.}
39.Nxc6+ {(1:53)

Dreamlight(1231) whispers: *slapself*}
39...Nxc6 {(0:05)} 40.Kxc6 {(0:01)} f6 {(0:01)} 41.Kd5 {(0:01)

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: gg}
41...fxg5 {(0:06)} 42.c5 {(0:01)

Aneirin(1890) whispers: hm

Tsubo(2059) whispers: kd7 b5 ke7 nc6+ nd7 nxd8 kxd8 kc6 kc8 a4 i think white wins}
42...g4 {(0:44)

Funkmaus(2158) whispers: ah f5/c5 build quadrat to backrank = promote

xivarmy(1917) whispers: no hm, seperated passers > connected}
43.Ke4 {(0:20)

Tsubo(2059) whispers: kd7 b5 ke7 nc6+ kd7 nxd8 kxd8 kc6 kc8 a4 i think white wins

DragonSlayr(2522) whispers: nxc6 not kd7, otherwise white can just grab a7

Tsubo(2059) whispers: yes u r right

Tsubo(2059) whispers: but similar end}
{dididothat resigns} 1-0

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