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sixsplits(1663) vs. twotowers(1542) 1-0

1.e4 (0:00) d6 (0:00) 2.d4 (0:02) Nf6 (0:06) 3.Nc3 (0:07) g6 (0:42) 4.f4 (0:10) Bg7 (2:46) 5.Nf3 (0:04) O-O (1:13) 6.Bd3 (0:14) c6 (3:01) 7.O-O (1:16)
CrazyHunter(1935) whispers: a pirc 7...Nbd7 (5:23)
jaberwock(2101) whispers: pirc ufimtsev rohrbach ;) 8.e5 (7:51) Ne8 (4:27) 9.Ng5 (6:27) h6 (2:44)
milpat(1806) whispers: Nxf7 followed by e6
milpat(1806) whispers: Nxf7 Kxf7 e6+ Kxe6 Bxg6...maybe?
Technika(2068) whispers: well after Nxf7 Rxf7 is better than Kxf7
milpat(1806) whispers: then e6 forks get back the N
Technika(2068) whispers: but still an interesting try.....
milpat(1806) whispers: white is certainly calculating :)
Technika(2068) whispers: Nf7 Rf7 e6 Bd4 Kh1 Rg7 ed7 Bd7....
milpat(1806) whispers: ah, Bd4 i was missing
Technika(2068) whispers: trying to work out if Bc4 then wins the bishop on d4.....
milpat(1806) whispers: at the end of this there Bh6? 10.Nxf7 (9:55)
milpat(1806) whispers: here we go!
Technika(2068) whispers: interresting.... lets see how far they have seen,,,,,
milpat(1806) whispers: haha, surely more than me :)
Technika(2068) whispers: Kxf7 loses to Qg4......which is much stronger than e6.....
Technika(2068) whispers: so black has to play Rxf7
milpat(1806) whispers: i saw Qg4, but not in same order
milpat(1806) whispers: white get at least th g-pawn....
Technika(2068) whispers: I used to play the Pirc/Modern a few years ago, but the 150 and Austrian attack drove me nuts.....so I gave it up.....
jaberwock(2101) whispers: understood!
jaberwock(2101) whispers: I can't figure out how to play teh white OR black side of those lines...
offtherook(1699) whispers: hypermodernism in general is completely beyond me... I've done OK in the Alekhine defence, but I can't get the Pirc or any of the Indian defenses
Technika(2068) whispers: mind you, I used to play the New St George and has lots of fun with that....but again it was either win or lose .... you never got draws....
offtherook(1699) whispers: What is the New St George?
jaberwock(2101) whispers: endgame technique probably did not play much a part; it sounds like it was with the shield or upon the shield.
Technika(2068) whispers: is was an opening that Basman championed, based on the St George but with an early e6 - it sometimes transposed into a French, which I played at the time as well...
nemotyro(1737) whispers: My first games went well, but then I kept falling on the sword, they didn't issue me with a shield.
jaberwock(2101) whispers: my shield was usually made of cardboard
Technika(2068) whispers: so went something like d4 e6 c4 a6 e4 b5 , and then bishop went to b7, and you would have mad stuff like f5 later to tempt White in lines where he gave up the Rook on h1 ......
Technika(2068) whispers: mad chess it was.....
jaberwock(2101) whispers: this was quite a time-consumer move
milpat(1806) whispers: yea both sides
jaberwock(2101) whispers: if black had not lpayed h6, weakening g6, Rf7 would be quite reasonable
jaberwock(2101) whispers: Kf7 would be...mad
nemotyro(1737) whispers: would f6 have been better?
milpat(1806) whispers: black will have to make some choice someday, there is only 2 moves right?
jaberwock(2101) whispers: maybe leave knight on g5 (for the time being) and blow up the white center with c5
offtherook(1699) whispers: moving the queen is technically possible
offtherook(1699) whispers: but it is probably not a good idea
jaberwock(2101) whispers: twotowers is probably confirming he does not choose move that will end up on wrong side of miniature (been there, done that!)
offtherook(1699) whispers: but he won't have much time if he has any other difficult decisions to make
jaberwock(2101) whispers: I was about to try and type that, though not as eloquent :) 10...Rxf7 (22:22)
offtherook(1699) whispers: and if I know sixsplits, his opponents always have more than one hard choice during a game 11.e6 (0:16)
milpat(1806) whispers: Bd4+
jaberwock(2101) whispers: wow 22 minutes on that move.
CrazyHunter(1935) whispers: O_O 11...Bxd4+ (1:35) 12.Kh1 (0:03)
jaberwock(2101) whispers: trade off: white's center may be gone vs. black's kingside pawn shelter
milpat(1806) whispers: Rg7 reasonable?
offtherook(1699) whispers: pawn centers are irrelevant if one king gets mated
milpat(1806) whispers: to cover g6
offtherook(1699) whispers: Bh6
offtherook(1699) whispers: after f5
jaberwock(2101) whispers: but an impressive pawn center would make a nice mausoleum for the king 12...Rg7 (2:27) 13.exd7 (0:06) Bxd7 (0:37)
jaberwock(2101) whispers: since it appears f5, g5 does not work, I was looking at Ne4 with idea Ng3 & f5. black's g5 would allow Ng5
jaberwock(2101) whispers: or Ne2 might be better with tempo on the d4 bishop
milpat(1806) whispers: so..., we can say black went with best defense?
Technika(2068) whispers: Bc4+ d5 Qd4 Bc4 Qc4+ ??
jaberwock(2101) whispers: I llike that Tech; looks clean
jaberwock(2101) whispers: need to remember checks :)
offtherook(1699) whispers: f5 g5 Qh5 and black's in trouble, what do you mean it does not work jaber?
jaberwock(2101) whispers: I was looking at messy Bg6, concluding it was messy
Technika(2068) whispers: not sure where King should go.... after Qc4+, h7 looks obvious
Technika(2068) whispers: but then I expect Black to be in serious trouble with time after that, as it is not an easy position with so little time....
jaberwock(2101) whispers: let's see, OTR; f5, g5; Qh5, Nf6 Qg6 , Q or Be8
jaberwock(2101) whispers: but I may be missing something
twotowers(1542) whispers: well I'm happy I got out of that without worse - I need to pretend like I'm playing with the White peices so I don't miss anything
offtherook(1699) whispers: OK, but in that position I'd take white every time
Technika(2068) whispers: how about...... f5 Bc3 bc3 Bf5?
nemotyro(1737) whispers: Bxg6/Qxd4?
jaberwock(2101) whispers: I hear your point; white may be indeed better, but I see nothing crushing. Right now I'd still vote for Tech's Bc4+
milpat(1806) whispers: at least black thinks on white time for now.... 14.f5 (13:33)
jaberwock(2101) whispers: Interesting idea nemo; black would have to consider both Bxc3 and Bf6
jaberwock(2101) whispers: I think that white's long think is helping black. 14...g5 (1:12)
jaberwock(2101) whispers: :) for Offtehrook!
jaberwock(2101) whispers: maybe now Bc4+ ?
Technika(2068) whispers: Bc4+ now is even stronger than before :) 15.Bc4+ (1:22)
jaberwock(2101) whispers: Bc4+ d5 Qd4 dc4 Qc4+ Kh7 b3 15...d5 (1:22)
jaberwock(2101) whispers: maybe delay Qc4+ for Ne4
nemotyro(1737) whispers: Bxd5+
jaberwock(2101) whispers: no on my suggested delay 16.Nxd5 (1:22)
jaberwock(2101) whispers: wow
Technika(2068) whispers: hang on....can Black get away with Rf7 after Qc4+ - I know walking into a pin is not ideal, but then ideas of Nd6 and Kg7 then leads to pieces ganging up on f5......
jaberwock(2101) whispers: all previous bets are off
jaberwock(2101) whispers: more evidence why I don't play these lines.
Technika(2068) whispers: lol
LeifPetersen(1512) whispers: nice game this
Technika(2068) whispers: wild games - never drawn though :)
jaberwock(2101) whispers: if there are draws, it is a perpetual
Technika(2068) whispers: true
jaberwock(2101) whispers: yes, quite entertaining...to watch
Technika(2068) whispers: I think blackis forced to play PxN
jaberwock(2101) whispers: this seems to highlight that Bd4+ was too costly (with hindsight)
milpat(1806) whispers: if he dont take N (say he tries save B) then Nf6++
Technika(2068) whispers: yep..... 16...cxd5 (3:36) 17.Bxd5+ (0:09)
Technika(2068) whispers: now can he get away with e6? 17...Kh7 (0:35)
offtherook(1699) whispers: no, pawn on f5 ruins that
milpat(1806) whispers: yea e6, and Q would hang somehow on d4.... 18.Qxd4 (0:15)
milpat(1806) whispers: now Nf6 looks natural, with fast look
Technika(2068) whispers: Bc6 looks best here....
milpat(1806) whispers: oh indeed
Technika(2068) whispers: Nf6 and you have Bxb7 :(
offtherook(1699) whispers: b7 is hanging... but I expect both of them are watching the kingside right now
Technika(2068) whispers: but I think Rd1 means White hangs onto material and wins.....
jaberwock(2101) whispers: Bc6
jaberwock(2101) whispers: but the clock will probably be the final say
Technika(2068) whispers: been an interesting game..... 18...Bxf5 (2:47)
milpat(1806) whispers: unfortunately...about clock
jaberwock(2101) whispers: this type of opening would fit a postal game
milpat(1806) whispers: i dont get this one
Technika(2068) whispers: interesting idea to play e6 after RxB
Technika(2068) whispers: but I think it is not enough
jaberwock(2101) whispers: Rf5, e6 Qe4
jaberwock(2101) whispers: no, Re5 after e6
Technika(2068) whispers: cmon white, play QxR :) ........
jaberwock(2101) whispers: that might push black's clock over the edge
jaberwock(2101) whispers: ;)
Technika(2068) whispers: so we can have Qg7 Kg7 Rf5 e6 Be6 Qd1++
Technika(2068) whispers: a nice self-mate 19.Rxf5 (5:43) e6 (0:07) 20.Re5 (0:13) Nf6 (0:34) 21.Qd3+ (0:02)
Technika(2068) whispers: shame, I think the clock led to Nf6..... twotowers forfeits on time 1-0

1.e4 {(0:00)} d6 {(0:00)} 2.d4 {(0:02)} Nf6 {(0:06)} 3.Nc3 {(0:07)} g6 {(0:42)} 4.f4 {(0:10)} Bg7 {(2:46)} 5.Nf3 {(0:04)} O-O {(1:13)} 6.Bd3 {(0:14)} c6 {(3:01)} 7.O-O {(1:16)

CrazyHunter(1935) whispers: a pirc}
7...Nbd7 {(5:23)

jaberwock(2101) whispers: pirc ufimtsev rohrbach ;)}
8.e5 {(7:51)} Ne8 {(4:27)} 9.Ng5 {(6:27)} h6 {(2:44)

milpat(1806) whispers: Nxf7 followed by e6

milpat(1806) whispers: Nxf7 Kxf7 e6+ Kxe6 Bxg6...maybe?

Technika(2068) whispers: well after Nxf7 Rxf7 is better than Kxf7

milpat(1806) whispers: then e6 forks get back the N

Technika(2068) whispers: but still an interesting try.....

milpat(1806) whispers: white is certainly calculating :)

Technika(2068) whispers: Nf7 Rf7 e6 Bd4 Kh1 Rg7 ed7 Bd7....

milpat(1806) whispers: ah, Bd4 i was missing

Technika(2068) whispers: trying to work out if Bc4 then wins the bishop on d4.....

milpat(1806) whispers: at the end of this there Bh6?}
10.Nxf7 {(9:55)

milpat(1806) whispers: here we go!

Technika(2068) whispers: interresting.... lets see how far they have seen,,,,,

milpat(1806) whispers: haha, surely more than me :)

Technika(2068) whispers: Kxf7 loses to Qg4......which is much stronger than e6.....

Technika(2068) whispers: so black has to play Rxf7

milpat(1806) whispers: i saw Qg4, but not in same order

milpat(1806) whispers: white get at least th g-pawn....

Technika(2068) whispers: I used to play the Pirc/Modern a few years ago, but the 150 and Austrian attack drove me nuts.....so I gave it up.....

jaberwock(2101) whispers: understood!

jaberwock(2101) whispers: I can't figure out how to play teh white OR black side of those lines...

offtherook(1699) whispers: hypermodernism in general is completely beyond me... I've done OK in the Alekhine defence, but I can't get the Pirc or any of the Indian defenses

Technika(2068) whispers: mind you, I used to play the New St George and has lots of fun with that....but again it was either win or lose .... you never got draws....

offtherook(1699) whispers: What is the New St George?

jaberwock(2101) whispers: endgame technique probably did not play much a part; it sounds like it was with the shield or upon the shield.

Technika(2068) whispers: is was an opening that Basman championed, based on the St George but with an early e6 - it sometimes transposed into a French, which I played at the time as well...

nemotyro(1737) whispers: My first games went well, but then I kept falling on the sword, they didn't issue me with a shield.

jaberwock(2101) whispers: my shield was usually made of cardboard

Technika(2068) whispers: so went something like d4 e6 c4 a6 e4 b5 , and then bishop went to b7, and you would have mad stuff like f5 later to tempt White in lines where he gave up the Rook on h1 ......

Technika(2068) whispers: mad chess it was.....

jaberwock(2101) whispers: this was quite a time-consumer move

milpat(1806) whispers: yea both sides

jaberwock(2101) whispers: if black had not lpayed h6, weakening g6, Rf7 would be quite reasonable

jaberwock(2101) whispers: Kf7 would be...mad

nemotyro(1737) whispers: would f6 have been better?

milpat(1806) whispers: black will have to make some choice someday, there is only 2 moves right?

jaberwock(2101) whispers: maybe leave knight on g5 (for the time being) and blow up the white center with c5

offtherook(1699) whispers: moving the queen is technically possible

offtherook(1699) whispers: but it is probably not a good idea

jaberwock(2101) whispers: twotowers is probably confirming he does not choose move that will end up on wrong side of miniature (been there, done that!)

offtherook(1699) whispers: but he won't have much time if he has any other difficult decisions to make

jaberwock(2101) whispers: I was about to try and type that, though not as eloquent :)}
10...Rxf7 {(22:22)

offtherook(1699) whispers: and if I know sixsplits, his opponents always have more than one hard choice during a game}
11.e6 {(0:16)

milpat(1806) whispers: Bd4+

jaberwock(2101) whispers: wow 22 minutes on that move.

CrazyHunter(1935) whispers: O_O}
11...Bxd4+ {(1:35)} 12.Kh1 {(0:03)

jaberwock(2101) whispers: trade off: white's center may be gone vs. black's kingside pawn shelter

milpat(1806) whispers: Rg7 reasonable?

offtherook(1699) whispers: pawn centers are irrelevant if one king gets mated

milpat(1806) whispers: to cover g6

offtherook(1699) whispers: Bh6

offtherook(1699) whispers: after f5

jaberwock(2101) whispers: but an impressive pawn center would make a nice mausoleum for the king}
12...Rg7 {(2:27)} 13.exd7 {(0:06)} Bxd7 {(0:37)

jaberwock(2101) whispers: since it appears f5, g5 does not work, I was looking at Ne4 with idea Ng3 & f5. black's g5 would allow Ng5

jaberwock(2101) whispers: or Ne2 might be better with tempo on the d4 bishop

milpat(1806) whispers: so..., we can say black went with best defense?

Technika(2068) whispers: Bc4+ d5 Qd4 Bc4 Qc4+ ??

jaberwock(2101) whispers: I llike that Tech; looks clean

jaberwock(2101) whispers: need to remember checks :)

offtherook(1699) whispers: f5 g5 Qh5 and black's in trouble, what do you mean it does not work jaber?

jaberwock(2101) whispers: I was looking at messy Bg6, concluding it was messy

Technika(2068) whispers: not sure where King should go.... after Qc4+, h7 looks obvious

Technika(2068) whispers: but then I expect Black to be in serious trouble with time after that, as it is not an easy position with so little time....

jaberwock(2101) whispers: let's see, OTR; f5, g5; Qh5, Nf6 Qg6 , Q or Be8

jaberwock(2101) whispers: but I may be missing something

twotowers(1542) whispers: well I'm happy I got out of that without worse - I need to pretend like I'm playing with the White peices so I don't miss anything

offtherook(1699) whispers: OK, but in that position I'd take white every time

Technika(2068) whispers: how about...... f5 Bc3 bc3 Bf5?

nemotyro(1737) whispers: Bxg6/Qxd4?

jaberwock(2101) whispers: I hear your point; white may be indeed better, but I see nothing crushing. Right now I'd still vote for Tech's Bc4+

milpat(1806) whispers: at least black thinks on white time for now....}
14.f5 {(13:33)

jaberwock(2101) whispers: Interesting idea nemo; black would have to consider both Bxc3 and Bf6

jaberwock(2101) whispers: I think that white's long think is helping black.}
14...g5 {(1:12)

jaberwock(2101) whispers: :) for Offtehrook!

jaberwock(2101) whispers: maybe now Bc4+ ?

Technika(2068) whispers: Bc4+ now is even stronger than before :)}
15.Bc4+ {(1:22)

jaberwock(2101) whispers: Bc4+ d5 Qd4 dc4 Qc4+ Kh7 b3}
15...d5 {(1:22)

jaberwock(2101) whispers: maybe delay Qc4+ for Ne4

nemotyro(1737) whispers: Bxd5+

jaberwock(2101) whispers: no on my suggested delay}
16.Nxd5 {(1:22)

jaberwock(2101) whispers: wow

Technika(2068) whispers: hang on....can Black get away with Rf7 after Qc4+ - I know walking into a pin is not ideal, but then ideas of Nd6 and Kg7 then leads to pieces ganging up on f5......

jaberwock(2101) whispers: all previous bets are off

jaberwock(2101) whispers: more evidence why I don't play these lines.

Technika(2068) whispers: lol

LeifPetersen(1512) whispers: nice game this

Technika(2068) whispers: wild games - never drawn though :)

jaberwock(2101) whispers: if there are draws, it is a perpetual

Technika(2068) whispers: true

jaberwock(2101) whispers: yes, quite entertaining...to watch

Technika(2068) whispers: I think blackis forced to play PxN

jaberwock(2101) whispers: this seems to highlight that Bd4+ was too costly (with hindsight)

milpat(1806) whispers: if he dont take N (say he tries save B) then Nf6++

Technika(2068) whispers: yep.....}
16...cxd5 {(3:36)} 17.Bxd5+ {(0:09)

Technika(2068) whispers: now can he get away with e6?}
17...Kh7 {(0:35)

offtherook(1699) whispers: no, pawn on f5 ruins that

milpat(1806) whispers: yea e6, and Q would hang somehow on d4....}
18.Qxd4 {(0:15)

milpat(1806) whispers: now Nf6 looks natural, with fast look

Technika(2068) whispers: Bc6 looks best here....

milpat(1806) whispers: oh indeed

Technika(2068) whispers: Nf6 and you have Bxb7 :(

offtherook(1699) whispers: b7 is hanging... but I expect both of them are watching the kingside right now

Technika(2068) whispers: but I think Rd1 means White hangs onto material and wins.....

jaberwock(2101) whispers: Bc6

jaberwock(2101) whispers: but the clock will probably be the final say

Technika(2068) whispers: been an interesting game.....}
18...Bxf5 {(2:47)

milpat(1806) whispers: unfortunately...about clock

jaberwock(2101) whispers: this type of opening would fit a postal game

milpat(1806) whispers: i dont get this one

Technika(2068) whispers: interesting idea to play e6 after RxB

Technika(2068) whispers: but I think it is not enough

jaberwock(2101) whispers: Rf5, e6 Qe4

jaberwock(2101) whispers: no, Re5 after e6

Technika(2068) whispers: cmon white, play QxR :) ........

jaberwock(2101) whispers: that might push black's clock over the edge

jaberwock(2101) whispers: ;)

Technika(2068) whispers: so we can have Qg7 Kg7 Rf5 e6 Be6 Qd1++

Technika(2068) whispers: a nice self-mate}
19.Rxf5 {(5:43)} e6 {(0:07)} 20.Re5 {(0:13)} Nf6 {(0:34)} 21.Qd3+ {(0:02)

Technika(2068) whispers: shame, I think the clock led to Nf6.....}
{twotowers forfeits on time} 1-0

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