sangalla(1900) vs. madmansreturn(1991) 1-0
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sangalla(1900) whispers: I'm sure Madmansreturn knows my preparation and style.... so I want to change it a bit ;) 2.g3 (1:40)
pchesso(1737) whispers: wow! g3 is interesting! 2...d5 (0:40) 3.Bg2 (0:05) g6 (0:31) 4.Nf3 (0:39) Bg7 (0:39) 5.b3 (0:38)
sangalla(1900) whispers: double fianchetto :)
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: I can safely say I've never experienced this position before :) 5...O-O (1:05)
pchesso(1737) whispers: it can still transpose into gruenfeld lines? but what do i know? :D 6.Bb2 (0:04)
Bodia(1697) whispers: this seems rather nonorthodox style
pchesso(1737) whispers: yes
pchesso(1737) whispers: Bg4 ? 6...b6 (1:26)
pchesso(1737) whispers: 0-0 Ba6 ? 7.c4 (0:49)
pchesso(1737) whispers: well anything is possible here...
Bodia(1697) whispers: e6 7...Bb7 (0:26) 8.Ne5 (0:16) Nbd7 (2:02) 9.O-O (0:27) Qc8 (2:10)
sangalla(1900) whispers: ok, maybe this is still equal. But I believe white has the initiative now. Time to think....
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: given I have a little less space, in general exchanges should be good for me
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: still, it's amazing how I always manage to come out worse from the opening
Bodia(1697) whispers: maybe this is because you play black pieces :)
Bodia(1697) whispers: I wouldn't say this is much worse though
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: bah, just discovered the zwischenzug Nc6 if I play dxc4
sangalla(1900) whispers: Nc3 dxc Nc6!? (white better I think)
sangalla(1900) whispers: but Nc3 c5 and Nc3 Nxe5 must be considered
pchesso(1737) whispers: how is f4 here? 10.Nc3 (11:22) e6 (7:00)
sangalla(1900) whispers: Rc1 now?
sangalla(1900) whispers: Rc1 Bh6 maybe?
sangalla(1900) whispers: then simply e3 is ok
sangalla(1900) whispers: and Rc1 prevent the "karpov break" c7-c5.
pchesso(1737) whispers: Rc1 is the "sangalla break" !
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: I wonder what sangalla is thinking about, Rc1 which I really don't like to face looks quite obvious, so he must be thinking about something else 11.cxd5 (11:10)
sangalla(1900) whispers: hm.... now I'm not sure if cxd was better than Rc1 :-/
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: Nxe5 seems to lose a pawn for me 11...Nxd5 (9:59) 12.Nxd5 (0:34) exd5 (1:18)
NoiroP(1783) whispers: knights in center and double fiancheto :D I like it
sangalla(1900) whispers: candidate move Rc1 and Bh3
pchesso(1737) whispers: yes, an original position
Bodia(1697) whispers: Bh3 is pointless imho
Bodia(1697) whispers: I mean the move alone, without a plan
sangalla(1900) whispers: Rc1 Nxe5 dxe5 Qe6 ok for black
pchesso(1737) whispers: Rxc7 then?
sangalla(1900) whispers: Bh3 Bxe4?! simply bad because black will have weak dark squares around his king (no need to calculate this variation!)
sangalla(1900) whispers: *Bxe5*
sangalla(1900) whispers: so Bh3 f5 practically forced
pchesso(1737) whispers: i would think longer about Rc1 c5
sangalla(1900) whispers: and it weaken black's king position too :)
sangalla(1900) whispers: I hope I dont missing something
pchesso(1737) whispers: Rc1 or Re1 my candidate moves here
sangalla(1900) whispers: but what then after Bh3 f5? e6 square will be weak but I dont know yet how to exploit it
sangalla(1900) whispers: still, I dont find a better alternative.... 13.Bh3 (10:47) f5 (1:18)
Bodia(1697) whispers: black's position becames unstable that isn't good for black
pchesso(1737) whispers: then you have to admit that Bh3 was not that bad :)
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: couldn't see an alternative to f5 (my pieces would be even worse placed after Rd8)
Bodia(1697) whispers: now attacking c7 would be a good idea
pchesso(1737) whispers: Re1 now, in order to give the Bh3 2 possible squares to retreat?
sangalla(1900) whispers: candidate moves Rc1, Nxd7, e3, and Bg2
Bodia(1697) whispers: not Nxd7 surely
Bodia(1697) whispers: Rc1 seems ok
pchesso(1737) whispers: hm, why is he boycotting Re1 all the time?
pchesso(1737) whispers: Rc1 has to be good, for sure
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: a good question is why I didn't consider Bxe5 :-? 14.Rc1 (8:31)
sangalla(1900) whispers: after Nxe5, I will sac a pawn for swap dark square bishop.... (in some lines) 14...Nxe5 (0:59) 15.dxe5 (0:05) c5 (0:21) 16.b4 (1:48)
pchesso(1737) whispers: ui
pchesso(1737) whispers: c4 is a too dangerous passer
pchesso(1737) whispers: i am beginning to like black better
sangalla(1900) whispers: just to remind you, all of my motives in this game depend on Qd4-Qc8 ;) I think it was slightly inaccurate
sangalla(1900) whispers: *Qd8-c8*
pchesso(1737) whispers: but what is your plan after c5-c4 ?
pchesso(1737) whispers: c4 a4 ? 16...c4 (6:42)
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: pondered between this and Qe6
pchesso(1737) whispers: Qe6 is not running away
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: my pawns looked a bit weak after Qe6 bc Bxe5 Bxe5 Qxe5 cb ab. I might have been wrong though
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: also I saw some unpleasantries after bc bc Ba3 as well
pchesso(1737) whispers: i think white has only 2 moves now, b5 or a4. but in both cases i like the black passer 17.Qd4 (4:24)
pchesso(1737) whispers: b5 now, right?
Bodia(1697) whispers: should consider Re8
Bodia(1697) whispers: forces white to break his pawn structure
Bodia(1697) whispers: and later a5 looks very good
pchesso(1737) whispers: i would go b5 here, give the passer some more protection 17...Re8 (4:35)
sangalla(1900) whispers: the theme of game has changed. white must exploit black's king position
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: a strong move I didn't think about (Qd4)
Bodia(1697) whispers: f4 is forced
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: idea with Re8 instead of a direct Qe6 is if white reinforces with f4, g4 is stopped for the moment
sangalla(1900) whispers: hm... after f2-f4 my king will be as open as black :)) maybe my advantage isn't as big as I think
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: Qd4 also pretty much killed my idea of the f4 break (although I had to do something about the h3-c8 pin before playing it anyway)
Bodia(1697) whispers: madman underestimates his potential in this position
pchesso(1737) whispers: well, Bodia, sangalla, Madmansreturn - you all seem on a higher level today :) 18.f4 (3:29)
sangalla(1900) whispers: no choice
sangalla(1900) whispers: I'm sure I had made positional error. f2-f4 was proved it! 18...Qe6 (1:22)
sangalla(1900) whispers: maybe it was Qd1-d4 19.Rfd1 (0:34)
sangalla(1900) whispers: threat: e4!?
Bodia(1697) whispers: this is actually very instresting game from strategical viewpoint
pchesso(1737) whispers: yeah, too strategical for my simple mind :D
Bodia(1697) whispers: hey, strategy is easier for human mind
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: hmm, do I reinforce my defences with Red8 or play Bf8 to activate my bishop?
Bodia(1697) whispers: Bf8 19...Bf8 (2:30)
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: in most games I play, my fianchettoed king's bishop is my strongest piece, I can't say it's been like that in this game
pchesso(1737) whispers: the otherwise desirable b5 is now running into Bc5, winning the queen :)
pchesso(1737) whispers: but, they have not considered b5 as of yet, they won't start doing it 20.a3 (2:40)
Bodia(1697) whispers: I never thought such strong tension in the center could lead to a center blockage 20...a5 (0:45) 21.Bc3 (0:06)
Bodia(1697) whispers: axb 21...Red8 (1:39)
sangalla(1900) whispers: ok, e4? :)
mikemouse(1794) whispers: Be1
sangalla(1900) whispers: no :) 22.Bg2 (3:38)
pchesso(1737) whispers: perhaps white can play Kh1 and put a rook on the b-file 22...axb4 (3:52) 23.Bxb4 (2:25) Bxb4 (0:18) 24.axb4 (0:04)
mikemouse(1794) whispers: blacks winning this
Bodia(1697) whispers: not sure
sangalla(1900) whispers: ..b5! and maybe white's advantage is gone
mikemouse(1794) whispers: whites gotno advantage, lucky to draw it i reckon
sangalla(1900) whispers: Ra4? Rxc4!
sangalla(1900) whispers: Qg7! is good too
sangalla(1900) whispers: *Kg7*
Bodia(1697) whispers: yeah, moing a-rook is dangerous
Bodia(1697) whispers: *moving 24...b5 (3:41)
sangalla(1900) whispers: hm.... at least white is not in danger now.
sangalla(1900) whispers: I have good bishop vs bad bishop
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: too many variations where Rxc4 was a big threat, although I really don't like my bishop now
sangalla(1900) whispers: and my queen position is better
mikemouse(1794) whispers: whites strategically lost, pawn structure is bad
Bodia(1697) whispers: will see how you could turn it into advantage, sangalla 25.Ra1 (1:29)
Bodia(1697) whispers: if there is advantage
mikemouse(1794) whispers: swap everything off black
mikemouse(1794) whispers: and win the endgame
mikemouse(1794) whispers: :)
Bodia(1697) whispers: black has a weak d5 pawn that shouldn't be underestimated
mikemouse(1794) whispers: Rxa1 25...Ra4 (3:26) 26.Rxa4 (0:13) bxa4 (0:02)
sangalla(1900) whispers: and now... come the bolt!! (well... or the blunder) :D 27.b5 (2:00) Ra8 (4:39)
mikemouse(1794) whispers: white might last another 5 fives before his position collapses
mikemouse(1794) whispers: 5 moves i mean
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: had totally missed b5
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: I expect Qc5 which looks really bad for me
mikemouse(1794) whispers: a3 then?
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: although Bxd5 is most likely good enough to win as well
pchesso(1737) whispers: Bxd5 does not work, in my calculation
mikemouse(1794) whispers: you're totally winning madman
smallblackcat(2018) whispers: Bxd5 is probably just drawing
smallblackcat(2018) whispers: trades then a3 Rd1 a2 Ra1 and probably black has to give the a-pawn for the b-pawn 28.Ra1 (11:19)
smallblackcat(2018) whispers: hmm, now maybe black has chances
mikemouse(1794) whispers: blacks winning and he knows it
smallblackcat(2018) whispers: so you keep saying - none of us agree with you ;)
smallblackcat(2018) whispers: not even the players, if you read their whispers
pchesso(1737) whispers: cat and mice, we had it before :D
pchesso(1737) whispers: i honestly don't know who is better
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: what am I missing? this looks less decisive for white than Qc5 :-?
smallblackcat(2018) whispers: after the last move maybe black is, but its far from clear to me either 28...Ra5 (6:10) 29.Qc5 (1:12)
mikemouse(1794) whispers: Bc6 29...Qd7 (1:03)
mikemouse(1794) whispers: lol
pchesso(1737) whispers: Bc6 was a bit running into Qxc6 :)
mikemouse(1794) whispers: :)
mikemouse(1794) whispers: but seriously, how do you get to 2000+ rating and unable to count pass pawns to an advantage in an endgame, blackcat?
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: this feels like a typical game where I'm on the defensive. the whole time "I just need one more move to solidify my position" and I never get there :p
pchesso(1737) whispers: blackcat can do even more than that :D
pchesso(1737) whispers: Qd6 ?
mikemouse(1794) whispers: resign
smallblackcat(2018) whispers: I love players who keep saying 'so and so is winning' without ever nominating a move
mikemouse(1794) whispers: look at the pawns fool
mikemouse(1794) whispers: it was lost ages ago
smallblackcat(2018) whispers: except of course for the remarkable Bc6
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: I started seeing ghosts after Rb1 and subsequent Qb4 thinking white threatened the a-pawn twice :p
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: I wonder whether sangalla has been disconnected or the lag worsened 30.Qb4 (16:33)
sangalla(1900) whispers: lost :( 30...Rxb5 (6:58) 31.Qxa4 (0:04)
sangalla(1900) whispers: ufff.... bad calculation :( maybe I'm too tired now 31...Rb1+ (0:27) 32.Kf2 (0:56) Qxa4 (2:18) 33.Rxa4 (0:00)
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: hmm, I planned to play Kf7 and subsequent Ke6 but c3 looks enticing at a first look 33...c3 (2:28) 34.Ra2 (0:38) Rb2 (0:53) 35.Ra1 (0:16)
Madmansreturn(1991) whispers: it's either Kf7 or d4 here 35...Kf7 (6:22) 36.Rc1 (0:17) d4 (1:38) 37.Bxb7 (0:44) Rxb7 (0:03) 38.e3 (0:08) Rb2+ (0:39) 39.Kf3 (2:55)
pchesso(1737) whispers: i liked neither Kf7, nor here Kf3 39...dxe3 (3:10) 40.Kxe3 (0:07) Rxh2 (0:28) 41.Rxc3 (0:04) h5 (0:48)
pchesso(1737) whispers: impressive comeback, sangalla! 42.Kd4 (0:50) h4 (2:41) 43.Rc7+ (1:04) Kf8 (1:56) 44.gxh4 (0:59) Rxh4 (0:06) 45.Kd5 (0:59) Rxf4 (2:25) 46.Ke6 (0:03) Re4 (0:14) 47.Kf6 (0:01) Ke8 (1:34) 48.e6 (0:10) Kd8 (0:05) 49.Rd7+ (0:14) Ke8 (0:04) 50.Ra7 (2:01) Kd8 (1:19) 51.Kf7 (0:19)
pchesso(1737) whispers: ? 51...f4 (0:32)
sangalla(1900) whispers: hm.... unexpected win. I think it was draw at best! 52.e7+ (0:21) Kc8 (0:16) 53.e8=Q+ (0:05) Rxe8 (0:03) 54.Kxe8 (0:01) g5 (0:20) 55.Rf7 (0:21) Madmansreturn resigns 1-0
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