bibbusque(2409) vs. dermandarin(2118) 1-0
Login to get PGN standard 45+45, 2010-04-26
hoizi(1851) whispers: GO Mandarin!
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: GO MARK
Myob(1810) whispers: Go derMoo!
pgg(1658) whispers: GO dM
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: hello i play der, my favorite captain here, hello all monkies and have fun! 1.e4 (0:00)
Introspection(1548) whispers: Have a good game guys
Opinel(2473) whispers: Marco power
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: Hoping for a nice messy fight!
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: ok he play e5 usually 1...e5 (0:00)
hugozver(1926) whispers: GO Mark(o)
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: King-Gambit, go!
KiranY(2063) whispers: ruy lo
KiranY(2063) whispers: go go Mark!
pgg(1658) whispers: geez the MC club is in here, whats the occassion ? ;)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: ok now, he know my next move lol
Opinel(2473) whispers: KG
KiranY(2063) whispers: when 2 bigwigs collide...
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: maybe i shuold play Nf3 :)
pgg(1658) whispers: resign Bibbu its over !
Introspection(1548) whispers: Wigwham!
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: go f4, dont make its so trilling :p 2.f4 (1:00)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: nah i prefer f4
pgg(1658) whispers: :))
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: f4 o.O 2...d5 (0:26)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: oh falkbeer
Opinel(2473) whispers: d5... this will be over wuicly
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: well 3.exd5 (0:14)
Opinel(2473) whispers: quickly * 3...e4 (0:08)
Introspection(1548) whispers: New one on me 4.d3 (0:03) Nf6 (0:12) 5.dxe4 (0:11) Nxe4 (0:11)
fernbap(1686) whispers: Good afternoon ladies, gentlemen and chess players
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: hey fern ^^
Opinel(2473) whispers: bibbu showed me his analysis of d5, i have to say that i think he's right. it is losing
Introspection(1548) whispers: And anyone else who might be watching...
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: maybe i don t play main line, Be3 its also interesting move here
Opinel(2473) whispers: play what you always play, you know it's good
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: lets play best move 6.Nf3 (1:11)
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: oh, I didnt knew Falkbeer-Countergambit is already refuted - lets see the best line for white then!
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: i suggest to see bronstein-tal game very nice
Opinel(2473) whispers: it isn't refuted by theory
Opinel(2473) whispers: it is refuted by bibbu
Introspection(1548) whispers: I have a hard time believing it is that easily refuted.
Opinel(2473) whispers: and i think he is right
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: bronstein was one of the best player of KG
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: lol >:)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: i guess in this position i never lost
Opinel(2473) whispers: he showed me how he beat an IM with it. i checked it, i analyzed it deeply. bibbu's plans just work 6...Bc5 (1:11) 7.Qe2 (0:04)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: Bf5
ElEvEntEEn(2096) whispers: Hi
Introspection(1548) whispers: Hello there
Opinel(2473) whispers: he will play Nfd2!!?
Introspection(1548) whispers: 27 observers and counting...
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: It reminds me to "my" refutation of KG (2...Bc5), but a way more opened for black.
fernbap(1686) whispers: Hi jenny, intro
Introspection(1548) whispers: Hey Fern
KevinLyHHHS(2061) whispers: Not my style, so no comment, but interesting nonetheless.
fernbap(1686) whispers: what's the move here? O-O?
Opinel(2473) whispers: Bf5
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: bf5 its only movere here according theory
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: Qe7 or Bf5 I guess, Bf2 maybe too
Opinel(2473) whispers: where bibbu found Nfd2 plans
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: Bf2+ XD
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: others move are weak and lose quicly
pgg(1658) whispers: you cant play f5?
ElEvEntEEn(2096) whispers: f5 is bad
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: Bf2+ Kd1 Qxd5+?
fernbap(1686) whispers: what if bf5 g4?
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: sounds nice maus
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: main position is after Bf5-Nc3-Qe7-Be3
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: It only sounds nice, ono - must be well known theory and maybe tactically losing for black somehow. Too nice to be true^^
Opinel(2473) whispers: this is opening theory probably no one on the planet knows better than bibbu. he is the only player who plays KG against IMs and GMs and he has never lost with it in his life. not even once!! someone (a strong player but i wont say his name) said it's a statistical oddity. i don't agree, bibbu is a genius
vipiu(2076) whispers: this is very wrong: "probably no one on the planet knows better than bibbu"
iveselov(1730) whispers: and what about that guy Gallagher? :)
Opinel(2473) whispers: nope
iveselov(1730) whispers: he plays (played?) KG against other IM/GMs frequently enough, no? 7...Qe7 (6:25)
vipiu(2076) whispers: Polgar also knows this, Spassky also, and I bet their level is higher than Bibbu's
Opinel(2473) whispers: i don't think so, but there is no reason to fight on that
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: ah he don t want main line,
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: Fedorow, a 2600 GM is scoring with KG too. on his 2600+ level. Was maybe 2-3 years ago 8.Be3 (1:02)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: nah i don t like Qe7 so much, better was Bf5 of course
Opinel(2473) whispers: bibbu showed a game against an IM that so far this game is following it 8...Nd7 (0:53)
hoizi(1851) whispers: well let's agree that Bibbusque is a real expert, but certainly he is not the only one :)
KiranY(2063) whispers: so that means mark is IM? :)
Opinel(2473) whispers: i don't think he is
Opinel(2473) whispers: it's Marco
Opinel(2473) whispers: Morozovich also plays KG sometimes 9.Bxc5 (3:00)
Opinel(2473) whispers: Nd7 looks quite good
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: Nd:c5 -Nbd2, i am clear better
Opinel(2473) whispers: i would probably play Nbd2 there instead of Bx but i know there are Nfd2 plans but i don't know if they are still playable there. will ask him later
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: a strong develpment 9...Ndxc5 (1:06) 10.Nbd2 (0:03)
Opinel(2473) whispers: never mind
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: and a P more 10...O-O (0:40) 11.O-O-O (0:14)
KiranY(2063) whispers: white has got bettert prospects of pawnstorming 11...a5 (1:02)
Opinel(2473) whispers: i think Bf5 Nd4 is good for white
vipiu(2076) whispers: luckyly chess at this level is not all about opening and black has still some good fighting chances here
Opinel(2473) whispers: this is losing
Opinel(2473) whispers: NxN NxN Qe3 with Bd3 game over 12.Nxe4 (2:13)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: and Qe3 according theory
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: on Qxe4 too? :p
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: its temathic here
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: white have a good P more without compensation for black 12...Nxe4 (1:21)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: maybe 11..Bf5 was better but Nd4 was a good move for me 13.Qe3 (0:19)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: now Bd3 and Re1
Opinel(2473) whispers: this is theory bibbu already showed me
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: easy play for white
oistrakh(1518) whispers: can anyone explain to me why dermandarin didn't play 7...Bf2+ ? 13...Re8 (1:45)
Introspection(1548) whispers: I'm sure someone here can but I don't know the theory
pgg(1658) whispers: interesting question
Introspection(1548) whispers: The bot did call for that move but... it is shallow...
Albido(2290) whispers: bd3 and it is getting uglier for black 14.Bd3 (2:07)
Madmansreturn(2002) whispers: it has been played at 2000+ level several times (7.- Bf2+) 14...Qb4 (1:42)
ElEvEntEEn(2096) whispers: bad move
Opinel(2473) whispers: typical bibbu game, over in under 15 moves
Albido(2290) whispers: Rhe1 and the crush begins
Opinel(2473) whispers: indeed
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: Rhe1 how i said, solid and i can say i have all my pieces in play , he has Bc8 and Ra8 there. i can say i have 2 tempi more than him 15.Rhe1 (2:09)
KiranY(2063) whispers: he makes it sound so simple 15...Bf5 (0:39)
Opinel(2473) whispers: trust me i don't give away compliments for free and usually i have a lot of comments but bibbu is a real genius.
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: well he want to play Nf6
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: Nd6
Albido(2290) whispers: c3 looks very promising
Opinel(2473) whispers: i was helping him with his book last year, this year he was too busy at uni. but i hope we will analyze more soon. sometimes i was looking at his lines with computers. they give -3.00 saying white is losing completely then after a typical genius bibbu plan they change it to white is winning easily. he's very creative. hardly any players like that anymore. he has that morphy touch
KiranY(2063) whispers: yeah
Opinel(2473) whispers: i have found a good line against his nimzo though, took me a few months to do it though
vipiu(2076) whispers: Carlsen should be afraid
Opinel(2473) whispers: well, hopefully he'll be an IM in a few days
KevinLyHHHS(2061) whispers: Really? Good for him! I have yet to even receive a Class F rating, heh.
Opinel(2473) whispers: he already has, i think 2 norms i don't remember 16.c3 (4:51)
Opinel(2473) whispers: yes if i remember correctly there is Ne5 in the future in here.
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: whats the answer to Nxc3?
fernbap(1686) whispers: qxe8+
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: oh true 16...Qa4 (5:36)
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: with K@b1 would b3 work after Qa4. Qa4 is forced, no?
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: okay, is played
andreufm(1713) whispers: what if bc2 now
fernbap(1686) whispers: robbolito's line was qf8
fernbap(1686) whispers: with +1.5
Opinel(2473) whispers: Qd4, this is very technical
KiranY(2063) whispers: and 2.4 for qd4 :(
Funkmaus(2208) whispers: Bc2 Qxa2
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: dunno i maybe Qf8 was interesting, here i am thinking to play the easy Qd4, a good change of queen with a good position and a P more, not bad
Albido(2290) whispers: would Qf8 been better?
KiranY(2063) whispers: less worse yes
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: qd4-Q:d4-N:d4, and then, g6 maybe its only, 17.Qd4 (5:51)
Opinel(2473) whispers: i need to learn italian
Opinel(2473) whispers: Qxd4 is forced
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: after g6 , B:e4-B:e4 and Nb5 and white win
Opinel(2473) whispers: i'm actually thinking that after g6 white can try g4 17...b5 (8:36)
Umboione(1850) whispers: oh KG? well its 1-0
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: b5?
Opinel(2473) whispers: you mean b5??
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: LOL
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: 0-1!!!
milpat(1785) whispers: hehe
Myob(1810) whispers: b5!!
GaraE(1467) whispers: I don't know Ono.. doesn't it seem like white wins a piece here? 18.Qxa4 (0:58)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: same theme but better 18...bxa4 (0:35) 19.Nd4 (0:03)
shivaroxxx(1650) whispers: anyone else a faulk player ??
shivaroxxx(1650) whispers: love this defense..but...i am trying out c6 rather than e4 lately 19...Nf2 (1:20)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: well :)
Opinel(2473) whispers: black just wants to lose
Albido(2290) whispers: free stuff 20.Bxf5 (0:37) Nxd1 (0:11) 21.Rxd1 (0:02)
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: i think g6 was only chance for him there
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: but how i said after B:e4-B:e4 and Nb5 white win
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: black is only too tired to think 21...a3 (0:46)
shivaroxxx(1650) whispers: Bg6 covered it right ? 22.bxa3 (0:09)
shivaroxxx(1650) whispers: or even Nd6 i guess 22...g6 (0:26) 23.Bd3 (0:07)
GaraE(1467) whispers: I'm a little confused about the g6 on move 17.. wasn't Qa4 hung if black played g6?
shivaroxxx(1650) whispers: nope...gotta but Bg6
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: or his gf plays for him cause he felt asleep 23...Re3 (0:42)
shivaroxxx(1650) whispers: happens to the best of us...;-)
shivaroxxx(1650) whispers: fortunately, mine can at least tell whats a legal if terrible move...;-)
Cuilin(2059) whispers: yes, they didn't mention the sequence Qxd4 Nxd4 g6+
Cuilin(2059) whispers: *g6
GaraE(1467) whispers: Ah, thanks
GaraE(1467) whispers: I might've just missed it, came in late
milpat(1785) whispers: KG just won again... no surprise there
Cuilin(2059) whispers: because it's obvious black has to play that firts
Cuilin(2059) whispers: :) 24.Kd2 (0:54) Rae8 (0:21) 25.Bb5 (0:12)
GaraE(1467) whispers: Had to ask in case there was a poison to Qxa4 :P
FSFabbri(1777) whispers: :(|)
derMandarin(2118) whispers: unfortunately this is hopeless and probably was already soon after the first couple of moves
Introspection(1548) whispers: Hi Fab
FSFabbri(1777) whispers: Hi, Intro
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: i want to know the answer to 7. Bf2+
Umboione(1850) whispers: i think that resign will be more dignitous...
Introspection(1548) whispers: App. it was ok Ono
Bibbusque(2409) whispers: Nc6-N:a5-Nc6-a4-a5-a6-a7- then depend, maybe Nb8 maybe a8= Q lol
shivaroxxx(1650) whispers: i step away for half a second....what happened ?!
Opinel(2473) whispers: Nc6 (and maybe Nc6-e5) will be dangerous for the rook
onomatopeia(1418) whispers: i c
FSFabbri(1777) whispers: Re4?
nonspiego(2072) whispers: el piezo en plus
FSFabbri(1777) whispers: It seems the only move not lose material
Umboione(1850) whispers: plus 2 pedoni
Umboione(1850) whispers: lol
nonspiego(2072) whispers: DECISIVE derMandarin resigns 1-0
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