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jakobmankel(1944) vs. brigadoon(2000) 1/2-1/2

1.d4 (0:00) Nf6 (0:00) 2.Nf3 (0:12) e6 (0:07) 3.Bg5 (0:10) h6 (0:32) 4.Bxf6 (1:26) Qxf6 (0:17) 5.e4 (0:28) d5 (4:15)
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: e5 now looks good
maeck(2020) whispers: e5 is the normal move here, yes
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: e5 Bd3 c3 Nd2 and white has a fairly free hand on the kingside
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: its like a French where white has the luxury of playing c3 and Bd3
maeck(2020) whispers: i can't even remember exactly what i am playing as black against this line, but it doesn't include d5 6.Nbd2 (4:17)
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: c5 now maybe
Jammes(1940) whispers: this looks normal too imo
maeck(2020) whispers: not sure, i would like dxe Nxe4 Qd8 as black here
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: then its like a Burn variation
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: of the French
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: except black is down a tempo
Jammes(1940) whispers: what is the advantage of the burn variation? the bishop pair? seems to lose some tempi
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: down two tempi in fact, because of h6
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: yes in the Burn black gets the two bishops, but white has some initiative
maeck(2020) whispers: the more tempi you are down, the better the Burn variations gets :P
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: well h6 is probably a move you dont want in such a position
Jammes(1940) whispers: ok, i only know rubinstein, what i play from time to time 6...Qd8 (5:26)
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: the Burn is an improved Rubinstein!
maeck(2020) whispers: love the move
Jammes(1940) whispers: rubinstein is quite solid. who other than you does say that :)
maeck(2020) whispers: i'm with cat
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: well admittedly I lost to it the other day
maeck(2020) whispers: full disclosure: he's my captain, so that's to be expected
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: haha 7.Bd3 (2:08)
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: fat chance 7...c5 (0:51)
Jammes(1940) whispers: here white seems to have a chance for an isolatated pawn position. dont knoe if its good
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: well now its like a French Tarrasch line, but again several tempi down
Jammes(1940) whispers: but i think i would play exd now anyway 8.exd5 (3:22)
Jammes(1940) whispers: tarrasch line is with a knight on e7 mostly. 8...Qxd5 (0:05)
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: oh yes I keep forgetting that theres no Bc1 for white
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: maybe that makes this playable for black
Jammes(1940) whispers: black lost so many tempo, white has to have some advantage here
brigadoon(2000) whispers: If I can survive and develop my pieces, I should have a good game. But it is a big IF!
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: castling should be fine here 9.Be4 (4:59) Qd8 (5:32)
Jammes(1940) whispers: im not sure about be4. was a good developing square for the knight. does that create any threats
Jammes(1940) whispers: qe2 perhaps
smallblackcat(2046) whispers: Qe2 and 0-0-0 would be quite aggressive 10.c3 (3:30)
Jammes(1940) whispers: ok c3 says he want 0-0 ;) 10...Be7 (2:53) 11.Qe2 (5:32) O-O (0:07) 12.Rd1 (2:20) Qc7 (2:37) 13.O-O (0:49) cxd4 (0:16) 14.Nxd4 (0:15) Bd7 (9:02) 15.Rfe1 (2:23) a6 (0:09)
Jammes(1940) whispers: this docmatc
Jammes(1940) whispers: ic style black plays has to be punished :)
Jammes(1940) whispers: go jacob, go 16.N2f3 (2:04) Bf6 (3:29) 17.Bc2 (3:02) Nc6 (4:41) 18.Qd3 (3:04) g6 (0:04) 19.Nf5 (0:57) exf5 (2:36) 20.Qxd7 (0:03) Qb6 (0:01) 21.Qd6 (0:54) Kg7 (0:32) 22.Bb3 (0:48) Rad8 (1:07) 23.Qg3 (0:18) Rxd1 (2:16) 24.Rxd1 (0:11) Rd8 (0:02) brigadoon offers a draw. Game drawn by mutual agreement 1/2-1/2

1.d4 {(0:00)} Nf6 {(0:00)} 2.Nf3 {(0:12)} e6 {(0:07)} 3.Bg5 {(0:10)} h6 {(0:32)} 4.Bxf6 {(1:26)} Qxf6 {(0:17)} 5.e4 {(0:28)} d5 {(4:15)

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: e5 now looks good

maeck(2020) whispers: e5 is the normal move here, yes

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: e5 Bd3 c3 Nd2 and white has a fairly free hand on the kingside

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: its like a French where white has the luxury of playing c3 and Bd3

maeck(2020) whispers: i can't even remember exactly what i am playing as black against this line, but it doesn't include d5}
6.Nbd2 {(4:17)

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: c5 now maybe

Jammes(1940) whispers: this looks normal too imo

maeck(2020) whispers: not sure, i would like dxe Nxe4 Qd8 as black here

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: then its like a Burn variation

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: of the French

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: except black is down a tempo

Jammes(1940) whispers: what is the advantage of the burn variation? the bishop pair? seems to lose some tempi

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: down two tempi in fact, because of h6

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: yes in the Burn black gets the two bishops, but white has some initiative

maeck(2020) whispers: the more tempi you are down, the better the Burn variations gets :P

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: well h6 is probably a move you dont want in such a position

Jammes(1940) whispers: ok, i only know rubinstein, what i play from time to time}
6...Qd8 {(5:26)

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: the Burn is an improved Rubinstein!

maeck(2020) whispers: love the move

Jammes(1940) whispers: rubinstein is quite solid. who other than you does say that :)

maeck(2020) whispers: i'm with cat

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: well admittedly I lost to it the other day

maeck(2020) whispers: full disclosure: he's my captain, so that's to be expected

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: haha}
7.Bd3 {(2:08)

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: fat chance}
7...c5 {(0:51)

Jammes(1940) whispers: here white seems to have a chance for an isolatated pawn position. dont knoe if its good

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: well now its like a French Tarrasch line, but again several tempi down

Jammes(1940) whispers: but i think i would play exd now anyway}
8.exd5 {(3:22)

Jammes(1940) whispers: tarrasch line is with a knight on e7 mostly.}
8...Qxd5 {(0:05)

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: oh yes I keep forgetting that theres no Bc1 for white

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: maybe that makes this playable for black

Jammes(1940) whispers: black lost so many tempo, white has to have some advantage here

brigadoon(2000) whispers: If I can survive and develop my pieces, I should have a good game. But it is a big IF!

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: castling should be fine here}
9.Be4 {(4:59)} Qd8 {(5:32)

Jammes(1940) whispers: im not sure about be4. was a good developing square for the knight. does that create any threats

Jammes(1940) whispers: qe2 perhaps

smallblackcat(2046) whispers: Qe2 and 0-0-0 would be quite aggressive}
10.c3 {(3:30)

Jammes(1940) whispers: ok c3 says he want 0-0 ;)}
10...Be7 {(2:53)} 11.Qe2 {(5:32)} O-O {(0:07)} 12.Rd1 {(2:20)} Qc7 {(2:37)} 13.O-O {(0:49)} cxd4 {(0:16)} 14.Nxd4 {(0:15)} Bd7 {(9:02)} 15.Rfe1 {(2:23)} a6 {(0:09)

Jammes(1940) whispers: this docmatc

Jammes(1940) whispers: ic style black plays has to be punished :)

Jammes(1940) whispers: go jacob, go}
16.N2f3 {(2:04)} Bf6 {(3:29)} 17.Bc2 {(3:02)} Nc6 {(4:41)} 18.Qd3 {(3:04)} g6 {(0:04)} 19.Nf5 {(0:57)} exf5 {(2:36)} 20.Qxd7 {(0:03)} Qb6 {(0:01)} 21.Qd6 {(0:54)} Kg7 {(0:32)} 22.Bb3 {(0:48)} Rad8 {(1:07)} 23.Qg3 {(0:18)} Rxd1 {(2:16)} 24.Rxd1 {(0:11)} Rd8 {(0:02)
brigadoon offers a draw.}
{Game drawn by mutual agreement} 1/2-1/2

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