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malcovich(2103) vs. burnage(2143) 1-0

1.d4 {(0:00)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: let the fun begin!}
1...d5 {(0:00)} 2.c4 {(0:10)} c6 {(0:01)} 3.Nf3 {(0:03)} Nf6 {(0:02)} 4.Nc3 {(0:03)} dxc4 {(0:08)} 5.a4 {(0:30)} Bf5 {(0:24)} 6.Ne5 {(3:29)} e6 {(5:22)} 7.f3 {(2:38)} Bb4 {(0:03)} 8.e4 {(0:02)} Bxe4 {(0:18)} 9.fxe4 {(0:05)} Nxe4 {(0:00)

burnage(2143) whispers: :Pinging MALCOVICH :Ping failed

Pawnadian(1906) whispers: I cannot ping either player.

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: finger says idle 8 min}
10.Bd2 {(9:56)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: i can't ping pawnadian either

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: i think ping doesnt' work}
10...Qxd4 {(0:50)} 11.Nxe4 {(0:04)

Pawnadian(1906) whispers: I guess not. I can't even ping myself.}
11...Qxe4+ {(0:18)} 12.Qe2 {(0:09)} Bxd2+ {(0:05)} 13.Kxd2 {(0:04)} Qd5+ {(0:02)} 14.Kc2 {(5:18)} Na6 {(0:40)} 15.Nxc4 {(0:32)} O-O {(0:27)

jaberwock(1930) whispers: I used to study this as black; I gave up on it due to the jungle of theory, plus the bottom line seemed to favor white (at the top levels, at least); I look forward to how this game progresses.

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: i guess they are still in book?

jaberwock(1930) whispers: Black apparently is comfortable with the line.

cliang(2170) whispers: Just left book, actually.

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: 15... o-o is a new move ok

jaberwock(1930) whispers: Still book, via transposition.

cliang(2170) whispers: Sorry, whatever the next move is takes them out of book, does that clarify?

jaberwock(1930) whispers: 16.Qe5 is main line (by my books, at least) :)

jaberwock(1930) whispers: !6. Qf3 is said to have been abandoned, according to Burgess.

cliang(2170) whispers: Oh, really? It's been a while since I studied the slav; I though Qf3 was still a fair option.

jaberwock(1930) whispers: Just what Burgess cites in his book on the Slav. I have given up on the Bishop sac line as black (or white for that matter.)

jaberwock(1930) whispers: the line given was...}
16.Qe5 {(9:34)} Rfd8 {(0:54)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: btw the deciding game of u1600 is tomorrow, right?

jaberwock(1930) whispers: 16.Qf3, Qc5 17. Kb1, Nb4 18. Be2, Rad8 19. Rc1, Rd4 20. Ra3, Rfd8...with complications that are allegedly "equal"

jaberwock(1930) whispers: Correct; 1600 game at 1000 server time.

MALCOVICH(2103) whispers: 2 things here 1) I am trying to remember the theorical moves from studying this opening when learning with my Kramnik database. 2) trying to possibly find any and every possible variation that does not lead to a dead draw and thus a loss for my team...but here I have no choice exchanging queens seems best. 3) Well, DAMN HE IS PLAYING FAST...he must know all of this by heart!?!

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: and u1800 has a rematch next week, right?}
17.Be2 {(1:53)

jaberwock(1930) whispers: I believe so, SBC.

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: yes i think so

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: just as well, that whole removal of boards thing is a really stupid way of deciding champions

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: agreed, though if the next round ends 2-2

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: they remove board 4, then 3 etc}
17...Nb4+ {(2:32)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: I believe in T35 and T36, the system was that instead of a semi-final and final round, there was a 3 round robin playoff between the top 4 teams

jaberwock(1930) whispers: this line purportedly goes 17.Be2 f6 18.Qd5, cd5 19.Na5! leading to a white edge

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: is that a recent book?

MALCOVICH(2103) whispers: I studied his games so far in teamleague and he made blatant opening inaccuracies (not blunders he is too strong for that; but inaccuracies oh yes!) in almost everyone game...now, he is going to book me until move 23 or so...I guess he must of expected this variation though I still have not played it in serious play here on FICS!?!

jaberwock(1930) whispers: Burgess book is 2001 copyright

jaberwock(1930) whispers: He has no line for 18. ---Nb4+

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: looks quite logical

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: stick the knight in the 'hole' created by 5. a4

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: you said 'hole' heh heh uhh

jaberwock(1930) whispers: 18.Kb1

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: seemed the appropriate thing to say ;)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: :-P}
18.Kc3 {(4:52)} Qxe5+ {(0:03)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: trouble is, Kb1 Qxe5 Nxe5 Rd2

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: the hangman is approching...}
19.Nxe5 {(0:18)} Nd5+ {(0:01)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: it seems better to keep the king watching d2

jaberwock(1930) whispers: You are probably correct.}
20.Kb3 {(0:53)} f6 {(0:18)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: well, I might be ;)

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: Nf4 and b5 were playable , too

jaberwock(1930) whispers: I am going to peek at more current database

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: burnage cant be in book anymore, so it looks like he's blitzing for psychological reasons

jaberwock(1930) whispers: white's position may be harder to play psychologically; those pawns may become dangerous

jaberwock(1930) whispers: plus, Malc is spotting his usual hour hour ;)}
21.Nd3 {(3:11)} Ne3 {(0:37)} 22.g3 {(0:58)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: hmm, no Nc5?

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: I guess its not in whites interests to trade pawns though

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: does anybody know how the statistics are in this sort of positions?

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: some sicilain lines are like this but i don't play them (except by accident) :-)

jaberwock(1930) whispers: checking... 2008 Big Database

jaberwock(1930) whispers: 17///Nb4+ played 1 out of 35 games...

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: yes, nb4 was new, f6 was still theory

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: f6 instead of nb4

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: but does the database say who wins more often, the piece- or the pawn-side?

sangalla(1977) whispers: i prefer black here

jaberwock(1930) whispers: 17....Nb4+ played in 1999, Finish Championship; one game...led to draw

jaberwock(1930) whispers: the 17...f6 line had been palyed 30 out of 35 games listed

jaberwock(1930) whispers: white scoring 57%

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: ok, thx

jaberwock(1930) whispers: black is finally burning some time

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: he's prolly just gone for a coffee or something ;)}
22...Nf5 {(9:53)} 23.Kc3 {(0:49)} Nd4 {(0:24)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: knight looks quite good on d4

cliang(2170) whispers: Good, this knight has gone all over the board, and probably needs a bit of rest by now. ;)

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: it's a deathknight:)

sangalla(1977) whispers: black's dont want to let white exchange rooks on d file

cliang(2170) whispers: From Malcovich's earlier comment, is burnage playing for the draw or win?

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: i hope he's just playing

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: but all team needs is a draw

cliang(2170) whispers: Just curious, thanks.

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: i consider it a win-win. he wins, our team wins. Malc wins, we get another week and 4 more games :-)

sangalla(1977) whispers: if malco win, its 2-2?

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: yup}
24.Rhe1 {(5:53)

sangalla(1977) whispers: so they win first board

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: boards dont count in the championship round

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: not unless its tied a second time

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: yes

sangalla(1977) whispers: oh

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: though i'd rather have co-champs if tied twice

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: then a random tiebreaker

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: in the past, I think thats been the practice

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: i mean if 8 games ends in a tie, good case for co-champs IMHO

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: yeah

jaberwock(1930) whispers: Co-Champs would be my choice; nothing wrong with more people happy after a long, even battle

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: agreed

sangalla(1977) whispers: IOC do not like co-chanp

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: IOC?

sangalla(1977) whispers: olympic committee

sangalla(1977) whispers: ;)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: hey we don't have drug testing either :-P

sangalla(1977) whispers: :))

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: does malc usually get into time trouble?

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: yes

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: Ive never seen a game where he didnt use his time}
24...e5 {(3:50)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: i can relate to that

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: it doesnt seem to bother him much

sangalla(1977) whispers: he love time trouble

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: well, ten minutes is plenty for this position, imho

jaberwock(1930) whispers: he almost thrives in time trouble

sangalla(1977) whispers: that the most interesting thing about chess for him

jaberwock(1930) whispers: and like Reshevsky did, he does well int it often

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: it's hard enough for me with extra time...!

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: sometimes any decsiion is better than debating for 20 min tho

jaberwock(1930) whispers: I get into time trouble in correspondence chess...

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: lol

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: haha

cliang(2170) whispers: You're actually not alone there, jaberwock...

cliang(2170) whispers: You'd think a week would be enough to make a decision.

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: One can give a whole life for a good move

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: how do you play for a win here?}
25.Nc5 {(6:20)} b6 {(2:16)} 26.Bc4+ {(3:22)} Kf8 {(0:24)} 27.Ne6+ {(0:15)} Nxe6 {(0:03)} 28.Bxe6 {(0:00)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: ok, the super knight is gone, but how the hell does white get at the pawns?

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: dunno

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: maybe Malc willl figure it out in time trouble :-P}
28...Rd6 {(0:59)

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: maybe best chance would be to trade the rooks off

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: thats what I was thinking

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: stick the bishop on e4 and penetrate with the king

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: so Bg4

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: anyone know if the position without rooks is a win for white?}
29.Bc4 {(3:07)

sangalla(1977) whispers: at least its white's best chance}
29...Rad8 {(0:36)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: i would think that depends on pawn structure

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: if blacks pawns are connected

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: seems like he'd have the winning chances vs a b

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: unless white can sac it for 2 pawns

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: my feeling was that it was better for white, but I dunno

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: yeah so then it depneds on where the pawns are and the K}
30.a5 {(1:22)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: but if white can break up blacks pawns

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: before the rooks come off..}
30...b5 {(0:54)

sangalla(1977) whispers: 0-1 i think, now the pawns look terrible}
31.Be2 {(0:12)} a6 {(0:03)

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: i agree

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: b4}
32.Rad1 {(0:34)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: hmm a6 is stuck on a light square if the B can pick it off

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: I really think after b4 and rook trades, white can win

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: a passwer

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: but its important to prevent c5, imo

sangalla(1977) whispers: rd4

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: Rd4 risks losing a pawn, either on d4 or a6

cliang(2170) whispers: c5

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: yes I think c5 too

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: c5 is not good anymore, i think, maybe white can later sac it on b5...

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: if black's K gets stuck defending a6

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: c5 is safe, white cant force all the rooks off yet

sangalla(1977) whispers: right

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: and with a rook on the board, any b5 sac fails

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: in fact, even c5 Rxd6 Rxd6 Rd1 Ke7 looks ok to me

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: but that needs checking ;)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: i think white's better in that line}
32...f5 {(3:35)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: danger of a zugzwang of course

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: hmm, interesting!

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: yup that's how white will win

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: lose tempos by shuffinng b

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: k has to leve defsne of a6

sangalla(1977) whispers: white best chance is on queenside. remember that his B is light square B}
33.Rxd6 {(1:20)} Rxd6 {(0:00)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: b4 for sure now}
34.Rf1 {(1:00)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: apparently not!

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: hmm}
34...g6 {(0:26)

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: maybe he wants b4 to be open for the king

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: trying to force the pawn to f4 I guess, so the bish can control e4

jaberwock(1930) whispers: Malc marches to the beat of a different drummer...and at a fast pace with under a minute

FSFabbri(1654) whispers: He is in time trouble, he might not play the best moves}
35.g4 {(0:32)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: yup, thats the idea

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: apparently that's where he's at his best

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: he just saw more than I did, b4 can wait}
35...f4 {(0:33)

sangalla(1977) whispers: i know what he think.... he tried to keep pieces as much as possible.. to limit draw possibility. that's what i dislike from a team game :(

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: I think this is winnable now

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: bf3?

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: now b4, I think}
36.g5 {(0:43)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: unless black has c5

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: hmm, I think black did have c5 against b4

sangalla(1977) whispers: draw = lose for white, that's why he dont play best move}
36...c5 {(0:40)

FSFabbri(1654) whispers: I see}
37.Rd1 {(1:00)

jaberwock(1930) whispers: Rd1; after rook trade, white has Bb5 sac om tap

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: yup

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: but are the e and f pawns too strong?

jaberwock(1930) whispers: and may be able to handle the e & f pawns if careful

sangalla(1977) whispers: and b-c!

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: RxR BxR e4 Be2 f3 and white doesnt have time for the b5 sac

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: a bishop on e4 can handle it

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: kf Ke7 here Rxd6 Kxd6 the sac doesn't work}
37...Rc6 {(1:04)

sangalla(1977) whispers: ouch!}
38.Bf3 {(0:16)} Re6 {(0:04)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: Im frankly amazed burnage didnt think about Rxd1

jaberwock(1930) whispers: He may be playing less perfect, but practical moves, based on time trouble by white}
39.Bg4 {(1:11)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: time!

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: yowza

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: thats an absurd thing to do in an endgame}
39...Rc6 {(0:16)

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: he takes his time:)}
40.Re1 {(0:25)

jaberwock(1930) whispers: Re1

jaberwock(1930) whispers: yup

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: the difference between moves at this stage is absolutely critical, so blitzing less than perfect moves is not good policy

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: so doesh6?

jaberwock(1930) whispers: I'm not advocating that strategy; I just guessing why he is selecting such moves.

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: right

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: now the black card house collapses}
40...Rd6 {(1:28)} 41.Rxe5 {(0:15)} c4 {(0:01)

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: none of the white pawns are targetable, for the moment

sangalla(1977) whispers: he still has some cards ;)}
42.Re6 {(1:08)} Rd3+ {(0:03)

StrokerAce(1928) whispers: anyone have an engine? tho they are pretty bad in these types of positoins}
43.Kc2 {(0:11)

jaberwock(1930) whispers: 42. Re4

Boobyslegacy(1955) whispers: Rf6+

smallblackcat(1963) whispers: I dont need an engine to tell you its winning for white

sangalla(1977) whispers: ofcourse white is better now, SA}
{burnage resigns} 1-0

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