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whitecharger(2050) vs. alesd(1765) 1-0

1.d4 (0:00) e6 (0:00) 2.c4 (0:12) d5 (0:08) 3.Nc3 (0:05) Be7 (0:09) 4.Nf3 (1:45) Nf6 (0:28) 5.Bg5 (0:24) O-O (1:11) 6.e3 (1:00) h6 (0:03) 7.Bxf6 (3:09) Bxf6 (0:06) 8.Rc1 (3:08) c6 (0:16) 9.Bd3 (0:57) Nd7 (0:39) 10.cxd5 (1:09) exd5 (0:53) 11.h4 (6:06) g6 (5:35) 12.h5 (1:09) g5 (0:39)
NatIN(1837) whispers: what about Bb1 and Qd3 for an attack?
cynick(2000) whispers: black sticks a N on f8 and the attack is over? 13.O-O (4:59)
NatIN(1837) whispers: well im just thinking loud
cynick(2000) whispers: yes, me 2 really, there could be some brutal follow up for white there
cynick(2000) whispers: and bb1 with Qc2/d3 is a plan black always have to look out for
AlesD(1765) whispers: after h4 I would expect long castle and advance of K-side pawns supported by Rs from behind
AlesD(1765) whispers: now white will probably try to prepare e4 break 13...Bg7 (5:51) 14.Bf5 (0:41)
cynick(2000) whispers: strange move. White wants to exchange his best piece? 14...Nf6 (0:42) 15.Bxc8 (1:20) Rxc8 (1:17) 16.Ne5 (0:16) Ne4 (0:51) 17.Nxe4 (0:47)
estepona(1651) whispers: go Clive go 17...dxe4 (2:00)
Arut(1740) whispers: I dont have a good understand of this position, what white was supposed to do? 18.Rc5 (1:47)
sangalla(1931) whispers: how could a 2050 player play on board 2 1800???? 18...Re8 (0:13) 19.Qg4 (0:50)
estepona(1651) whispers: he was 1831 when TL started :-)
sangalla(1931) whispers: @ arut: white has more active piece, safer king....
sangalla(1931) whispers: so white is upper hand
sangalla(1931) whispers: ok... 19...Qb6 (5:26)
Arut(1740) whispers: ok, it was abou the cynick coment "strange move. White wants to exchange his best piece? " 20.f4 (0:58) exf3 (0:04) 21.Qxf3 (0:14) Rc7 (0:06)
Ohzoso(1580) whispers: niet te voorbarig 22.Nc4 (0:40) Qa6 (0:16)
sangalla(1931) whispers: sorry, i just come here, didn't see previous comments
Arut(1740) whispers: ok, thanks
sangalla(1931) whispers: he meant 15. Bxc8 ?? yes that's strange move
DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: wants to lead with the rook on f5
Arut(1740) whispers: is queen trapped?
DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: jeesh
DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: no
DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: knight is hanginging if Ra5
Nitreb(1315) whispers: What about Nd6 here? Looks strong.
Arut(1740) whispers: sangalla, ok its really strange :) 23.Nd6 (5:42)
CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: hi everybody
Arut(1740) whispers: Hi
DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: :)
Nitreb(1315) whispers: Hi Carlos
CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: hi Nit
CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: just arrived to see the winner move? is it?
Nitreb(1315) whispers: No, I've been here for about 10 min ;-)
CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: I said I just arrived :)
CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: brb 23...Rf8 (6:04)
Nitreb(1315) whispers: Oh :-)
Nitreb(1315) whispers: I thought you were here for some time
cynick(2000) whispers: well, despite exchanging his best piece, this has worked out great for white!
cynick(2000) whispers: probably Ne4 was a blunder 24.Nf5 (4:53)
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: ??
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: wasn't Rf5 winning
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: for instance Rf5 f6 a3
cynick(2000) whispers: Rf5 Qxa2 perhaps?
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: then Nxf7
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: 4 attackers to 3 defenders
cynick(2000) whispers: no 4 defenders
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: oh.. the queen
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: hmm
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: then maybe a3 first before Rf5
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: coz now white is losing the pawn 24...Qd3 (6:13) 25.Rc3 (3:54)
Nitreb(1315) whispers: Qg3 was interesting 25...Qd2 (1:16) 26.Nxg7 (0:15) Kxg7 (0:03) 27.Qf6+ (0:02) Kh7 (0:01) 28.Qd6 (0:16) Rcc8 (3:04)
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: Rf6 is nice 29.Rxf7+ (0:31) Rxf7 (0:14) 30.Qg6+ (0:02)
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: Qe1+ 30...Kh8 (0:01)
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: ???
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: Qe1 was only saving move
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: wat the heck did he move so fast for 31.Qxf7 (0:40)
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: oh the check
ChessTsar(1949) whispers: darn 31...Qe1+ (0:43) 32.Qf1 (0:18) Qxf1+ (1:07) 33.Kxf1 (0:03) Kg7 (0:08) 34.Ke2 (0:10) Kf6 (2:32) 35.e4 (0:18) Ke6 (0:05)
sangalla(1931) whispers: g4!
sangalla(1931) whispers: why not 35..g4! 36.Rc5 (0:57) Re8 (2:38) 37.Re5+ (0:27) Kd7 (0:08) 38.Rxe8 (0:02) Kxe8 (0:02) 39.e5 (0:05) Kd7 (0:11) 40.Ke3 (0:12) Ke6 (0:28) 41.Ke4 (0:04)
AlesD(1765) whispers: hmmm - I suppose I can't draw this - soon I'll run out fo moves and white will pass through
AlesD(1765) kibitzes: thanks all for watching - hope I'll find some usefull comments in the whispers :-) AlesD resigns 1-0

1.d4 {(0:00)} e6 {(0:00)} 2.c4 {(0:12)} d5 {(0:08)} 3.Nc3 {(0:05)} Be7 {(0:09)} 4.Nf3 {(1:45)} Nf6 {(0:28)} 5.Bg5 {(0:24)} O-O {(1:11)} 6.e3 {(1:00)} h6 {(0:03)} 7.Bxf6 {(3:09)} Bxf6 {(0:06)} 8.Rc1 {(3:08)} c6 {(0:16)} 9.Bd3 {(0:57)} Nd7 {(0:39)} 10.cxd5 {(1:09)} exd5 {(0:53)} 11.h4 {(6:06)} g6 {(5:35)} 12.h5 {(1:09)} g5 {(0:39)

NatIN(1837) whispers: what about Bb1 and Qd3 for an attack?

cynick(2000) whispers: black sticks a N on f8 and the attack is over?}
13.O-O {(4:59)

NatIN(1837) whispers: well im just thinking loud

cynick(2000) whispers: yes, me 2 really, there could be some brutal follow up for white there

cynick(2000) whispers: and bb1 with Qc2/d3 is a plan black always have to look out for

AlesD(1765) whispers: after h4 I would expect long castle and advance of K-side pawns supported by Rs from behind

AlesD(1765) whispers: now white will probably try to prepare e4 break}
13...Bg7 {(5:51)} 14.Bf5 {(0:41)

cynick(2000) whispers: strange move. White wants to exchange his best piece?}
14...Nf6 {(0:42)} 15.Bxc8 {(1:20)} Rxc8 {(1:17)} 16.Ne5 {(0:16)} Ne4 {(0:51)} 17.Nxe4 {(0:47)

estepona(1651) whispers: go Clive go}
17...dxe4 {(2:00)

Arut(1740) whispers: I dont have a good understand of this position, what white was supposed to do?}
18.Rc5 {(1:47)

sangalla(1931) whispers: how could a 2050 player play on board 2 1800????}
18...Re8 {(0:13)} 19.Qg4 {(0:50)

estepona(1651) whispers: he was 1831 when TL started :-)

sangalla(1931) whispers: @ arut: white has more active piece, safer king....

sangalla(1931) whispers: so white is upper hand

sangalla(1931) whispers: ok...}
19...Qb6 {(5:26)

Arut(1740) whispers: ok, it was abou the cynick coment "strange move. White wants to exchange his best piece? "}
20.f4 {(0:58)} exf3 {(0:04)} 21.Qxf3 {(0:14)} Rc7 {(0:06)

Ohzoso(1580) whispers: niet te voorbarig}
22.Nc4 {(0:40)} Qa6 {(0:16)

sangalla(1931) whispers: sorry, i just come here, didn't see previous comments

Arut(1740) whispers: ok, thanks

sangalla(1931) whispers: he meant 15. Bxc8 ?? yes that's strange move

DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: wants to lead with the rook on f5

Arut(1740) whispers: is queen trapped?

DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: jeesh

DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: no

DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: knight is hanginging if Ra5

Nitreb(1315) whispers: What about Nd6 here? Looks strong.

Arut(1740) whispers: sangalla, ok its really strange :)}
23.Nd6 {(5:42)

CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: hi everybody

Arut(1740) whispers: Hi

DodgeBrother(1619) whispers: :)

Nitreb(1315) whispers: Hi Carlos

CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: hi Nit

CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: just arrived to see the winner move? is it?

Nitreb(1315) whispers: No, I've been here for about 10 min ;-)

CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: I said I just arrived :)

CarlosKerber(1643) whispers: brb}
23...Rf8 {(6:04)

Nitreb(1315) whispers: Oh :-)

Nitreb(1315) whispers: I thought you were here for some time

cynick(2000) whispers: well, despite exchanging his best piece, this has worked out great for white!

cynick(2000) whispers: probably Ne4 was a blunder}
24.Nf5 {(4:53)

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: ??

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: wasn't Rf5 winning

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: for instance Rf5 f6 a3

cynick(2000) whispers: Rf5 Qxa2 perhaps?

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: then Nxf7

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: 4 attackers to 3 defenders

cynick(2000) whispers: no 4 defenders

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: oh.. the queen

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: hmm

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: then maybe a3 first before Rf5

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: coz now white is losing the pawn}
24...Qd3 {(6:13)} 25.Rc3 {(3:54)

Nitreb(1315) whispers: Qg3 was interesting}
25...Qd2 {(1:16)} 26.Nxg7 {(0:15)} Kxg7 {(0:03)} 27.Qf6+ {(0:02)} Kh7 {(0:01)} 28.Qd6 {(0:16)} Rcc8 {(3:04)

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: Rf6 is nice}
29.Rxf7+ {(0:31)} Rxf7 {(0:14)} 30.Qg6+ {(0:02)

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: Qe1+}
30...Kh8 {(0:01)

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: ???

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: Qe1 was only saving move

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: wat the heck did he move so fast for}
31.Qxf7 {(0:40)

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: oh the check

ChessTsar(1949) whispers: darn}
31...Qe1+ {(0:43)} 32.Qf1 {(0:18)} Qxf1+ {(1:07)} 33.Kxf1 {(0:03)} Kg7 {(0:08)} 34.Ke2 {(0:10)} Kf6 {(2:32)} 35.e4 {(0:18)} Ke6 {(0:05)

sangalla(1931) whispers: g4!

sangalla(1931) whispers: why not 35..g4!}
36.Rc5 {(0:57)} Re8 {(2:38)} 37.Re5+ {(0:27)} Kd7 {(0:08)} 38.Rxe8 {(0:02)} Kxe8 {(0:02)} 39.e5 {(0:05)} Kd7 {(0:11)} 40.Ke3 {(0:12)} Ke6 {(0:28)} 41.Ke4 {(0:04)

AlesD(1765) whispers: hmmm - I suppose I can't draw this - soon I'll run out fo moves and white will pass through

AlesD(1765) kibitzes: thanks all for watching - hope I'll find some usefull comments in the whispers :-)}
{AlesD resigns} 1-0

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